AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 

Venum dive

Recapped: 07/16/2017

All matches were taped at Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas on 06/19/2017 


Texano Jr. beat Marty Martinez
(7:59, sit down powerbomb, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa beat Lady Shani & Venum for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship
(7:52, Mami inside cradle Shani, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria ©  beat Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(6:38, Cuervo powerbomb Mascara de Bronce, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana © beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship in an outcome later overturned (7:10, Tito Santana frog splash Raptor, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened:

every taping crazy Aerostar dive

In a vignette, Mocho Cota tries to raise Carta & Soul’s spirits after losing their masks. We’re shown that backstage, and then shown a camera with Jesus Zuniga coming into interview them. It’s like two different styles of interviews happening at once. OGT pop up from nowhere to reiterate their challenge for the title match. Soul Rocker is called “Tito” here and Tito Santana on the graphic – Arturo eventually explains it for those who don’t know. it stills says Soul Rocker on Tito’s Poder del Norte shirt. Poder del Norte is mostly the Milicia now, borrowing that look (which was also Mocho Cota Sr’s look for a time) as a trio. Raptor has the 3 briefcase to cash in for this title match.

Raptor gets a visual pin on Carta Brava, but Piero is looking outside for reasons not clear. Mocho Cota lips in a foul soon after and pins Raptor, and Tito adds a frog splash for the win. Poder del Norte’s music play for about 5 seconds before Vampiro’s music interrupts. He walks to the ring, and Poder del Norte walk around him to pose on the stage. Vampiro says it was an exciting match but that isn’t the way to win a title match in AAA. Vampiro announces he’s throwing out this match, and Poder del Norte vs the técnicos in a best of five series where the winning team keeps the trios titles. The tencicos do a triple dive on the rudos, which is half missed by the camera.

The new Panini Album is released July 19th and is pushed hard as a result. Noti AAA focuses on the plane unveiling.

dropkick is not good, sell is a lot

Mascara de Bronce looks for Vampiro before his match, and finds him with Hernandez. Neither are happy to see either, and Vamp points out Mascara de Bronce doesn’t have his briefcase. Vampiro explains they’re partners for a tag team title match tonight. He doesn’t explain why, because there is no explanation. Hernandez refuses a tag in the first minute of the match. Cuervo and Scoria repeatedly knock Hernandez off the apron anyway, which appears to anger him to enough to want to get into the match. He still can’t for a while, but does come in with a double clotheslines on the rudos when they mess up, works with Bronce for a minute or two, then pulls Bronce off a pin. Hernandez talks Bronce into continuing, and of course they mess up their next spot (in storyline and in real life.) Bronce gets pinned, then Kevin Kross comes out and throws him around for a bit. Hernandez gets Mascara’s briefcase from somewhere – and now it’s the #4 one, and Bronce definitely didn’t bring it to the match – gives it to Kevin Kross for some reason. I have no idea.

La Hiedra tries flirting with Venum to be his partner for the mixed tag title match, but he says he’s already got a partner. Lady Shani shows up just in time to pull Venum out of that mess and to their match. Announcers are still billing Lady Shani as a ruda, though she’s been on the tecnica side for months. (I haven’t fixed it either, guess I should.) Venum has a “1” briefcase, which isn’t the right number and appears to be an actual briefcase as opposed to the one they had earlier. Shani has the match probably won with a backcracker on Big Mami, but lets go of the pin and stands up because La Hiedra’s music is playing. (This is so dumb.) Hiedra is still nowhere near the ring when Shani, motionless, gets inside cradled by Big Mami.

The Marty/Texano match didn’t air on the TV show but is included on the YouTube channel. Something the announcers say is very obviously removed around at the 5:10 mark.


Kross suplex watch

The main event was a little sloppy at time – a problem with all the matches this week – but had some exciting moments and these two teams have potential for a good series of matches if they get better as they go along. The Poder del Norte work much better against these técnicos in action matches than they were getting out of the main event feud and they’re obviously motivated by their recent focus. Raptor is not yet at the level of his partners but these matches will help him get there. This could’ve gone a bit longer, but it’s one of probably six, so it’s fair that they’re going to save things for other matches. It would’ve been less dramatic but less forced if Vampiro had earlier decried there would no more fouls in title matches as part of making the matches more serious rather than coming off as inconsistent by bringing it up here only after the main event was over. The general idea – AAA is going to take title matches seriously now so title should be taken seriously – makes sense as a big concept, but it’s tough to believe in when both the other title matches had silly/dumb finishes and weren’t about deciding who was the best team. Saying you want title matches to be serious on the same show where two people who’ve never teamed and are feuding getting a title match is incongruous. AAA’s track record is they’re going to ignore this push when it suits them too, so there’s no reason to buy in caring until they prove otherwise, and they didn’t prove anything on this show

The tag match was whatever.. They did try to have it make internal sense, but it was still a match which made little sense to exist and accomplished little. It doesn’t even benefit Scoria & Cuervo to get an easy win because no one took the match seriously and they were bit players in it. It’s not doing all that much for Mascara de Bronce (or Hernandez, who was so dumb that he didn’t want to win the tag titles.) It didn’t do much for storyline Vampiro commission, booking a match that didn’t make any sense. There were a couple good spots, but there was also some awkwardness and nothing worth checking out outside of the context.

flying moth

What we learned about in the mixed tag title championship is that title is less important than a Shani/Hiedra feud, about the twelfth most important feud in the promotion right now. Yet, that feud isn’t important enough to actually give them the mixed tag titles to fight over (so maybe they really are going to fight for the Reina de Reinas championship.) Instead, Hamburguesa and Mami win the belts in a match where they seem much less over than usual and do not look especially good in the ring. Shani & Venum do some cool things, enough to just pull this up to OK for me, but there are some groaners of bad spots, no particular flow or story to the match since they’re both sort of tecnica teams and a terrible cliched finish. That OK is a generous grade.

There may be other weirder reasons why Texano/Marty was cut out of TV, but it comes across as easy to skip anyway. It’s not bad, but it’s a cold match – the crowd doesn’t really know Marty, there’s not much to get him over, and they don’t care about this fight all that much. The biggest reactions are to the normal lasso spots, which leads into the finish. I’m not sure what Texano is supposed to be at this point: he’s the slight técnico here and hasn’t been presented as rudo much since the turn. It’s also a little bit sloppy at times, not enough to tank it but it never gets a high level.

keep on swinging

Villanos win in IWRG, Puebla preview

IWRG (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Lunatik Xtreme & Power Bull b Fly Tiger & Voltar
2) Mike b Pantera del Japon
Mike won despite injuring his left leg.
3) Demonio Infernal, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo b Dinamic Black, Hijo del Alebrije, Shaolin
4) Danny Casas DQ Veneno
Veneno hit the referee for the DQ.
5) Black Dragón, Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible b Gallo Frances, Herodes Jr., Trauma II
Hijo de Dos Caras wants a shot at Herodes Junior title.
6) Villano IV & Villano V Jr. b Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan and Hijo del Pantera & Pantera and Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. and Diablo Jr. & El Hijo del Diablo and Negro Navarro & Trauma I and Golden Magic & Mr. Magia and Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. [Legado Final]
Fathers on each team started and were replaced by sons when they were elimianted. Villano V Jr. beat Trauma I for the win (though with a foul), and earned a shot at Mr. Electro’s IWRG Heavyweight title.

They’ve focused a lot on the Villanos here of late so it makes sense to try a title match with them.

Today’s Arena Puebla is a busy show, closing out it’s typical July run of bigger than usual shows. The main event is a rare Caristico/Rush amtch. It’s a feud that’s been teased off and on in Arena Mexico, but has only happened once before. That match was back in January 2016, with those two getting a main event while half the roster was in Japan for FantasticaMania. That time, Caristico got a visual submission with the referee down, but Rush recovered to beat him cleanly with the Rush Driver. This matchup doesn’t seem like it’ll be a great techinical battle, but they should be good at getting emotion from the crowd.

Shockercito and Pierrothito meet in the tercera for Shockercito’s CMLL minis championship. CMLL’s mini division is not popular at the moment, but this is one of the better singles matches they can throw it out. Pierrothito is getting up there in age but still can move pretty well and is a good bully to go against the undersized Shockercito. These two met back in March to decide this title in what was their first ever CMLL singles match. (They’d also met on the 2016 DragonMania show.) It’s too soon in Shockercito’s title run for a title change, but otherwise Pierrothito would seem like someone could unseat him. The title match and positioning will let these guys go all out and, as long as Tirantes doesn’t screw up a count again, they should put together a pretty entertaining match.

The semimain is Dragon Lee, Mistico and Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto and Negro Casas, which could be a quick good match. Rey Cometa, Soberano, and Stigma face Puma, Tiger and Malayo. Local Puebla guys getting in a high position normally doesn’t get any follow up, but there’s a chance Malayo could be set up as Stigma’s next victim, and it’ll be at least interesting to see what he shows against higher level competition. The second match is a women’s match with Sugehit but not with Zeuxis: the sides are Vaquerita, Sanely and Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys and Tiffany. The show opens with Arkalis, Espiritu Maligno, Rey Samuray versus Ares, Guerrero Espacial and Rey Apocalipsis. It’ll air on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 9pm.

In WMC, brothers Super Comando & Artillero beat brothers Fulgors, which appeared to set up a two hairs vs two mask on the next WMC show.

In AULL, Keira defeated Lady Maravilla to keep that groups’ women’s championship.

The Crash’s show in Torreon looks to be on 10/08. They’re doing discounted tickets if you buy a few months early.

1987 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

Santo vs Espanto

I added 1987 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio, to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. I think this is the first one of these which isn’t bigger than the last one.

This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. As noted last time, the paper appears to have not written about lucha libre for the first four months of the year before resuming it’s old coverage of show previews in April. What’s new this year is somewhat regular result article start to turn up in the last third of the year. That’s a first, and probably an indication of the local scene being so hot that the paper finally decided it was worth it’s resources to start covering it a bit more. I believe there were some columns too, but nothing interesting enough for me to grab this time.

The schedule is Arena Olimpico Laguna on Thursdays, and then usually all three of Plaza de Toros, the Auditorio and Palacio de Los Deportes on Sundays. There’s a few weekends off (and/or missing from the newspaper), but it’s about 200 shows a year, almost none of which haven’t been in a wrestling database to this point. There’s more Mexico City talent coming in regularly too; this isn’t just the local names fighting each other.

These results have been ready for most of this week, but that poster up there is holding things up. I know I’ve seen a online video of that title match, sometime in the last year. It had an established outdoor shot of the building (with the name of the building), but we couldn’t figure when it was – because I had the title switch in Satillo instead of Torreon. This was like a VHS tape someone had uploaded in one piece to YouTube and hours long. I thought it might be one of the videos on this channel, but I don’t see it there.

I know I had discussed this video with someone, but I can’t find any discussion of it on Twitter or DVDVR or email. I know I had started to work on timestamps for the videos, but gave up when I figuring out dates was impossible. And now I remember and can’t find the video. I keep derailing myself trying to figure out which channel I saw the video and it’s just not happening.


Canelo takes Cholo’s hair, Super Astro show

Cholo & Canelo

Super Astro (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [R de Rudo]
1) Candy White & Eterno b Psicosis Jr. & Rossy Moreno
2) Diva Salvaje, Estrellita, Keira, Pegazus b Demonio Infernal, Hijo del Alebrije, Lady Maravilla, Yuriko
3) Diamante, Hijo del Pantera, Imposible b Aramis, Dinamic Black, Metaleón
4) Draego & Hijo de Máscara Sagrada b Antifaz del Norte & Dr. Karonte Jr.
5) Fishman Jr., Lizmark Jr., Ninja Jr. b Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Ultramán Jr., X-Fly
6) Emperador Azteca, Flamita, Laredo Kid b Atomic Star, Trauma I, Trauma II
7) Hijo De Dos Caras, Oriental, Silver King b Ángel Blanco Jr., Shocker, Valiente
8) Gran Guerrero, Mr. Electro, Último Guerrero b Fresero Jr., La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
9) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park DQ Dragón Lee & Rush
usual bit of fouls, with Rush getting a three count but being DQed after the fact

We’d be here until Tuesday if I listed all the changes from the original lineup (though I think there was an updated lineup I didn’t see until it stopped mattering.) I’m still not sure it’s right – Sexy Star mentioned how she couldn’t believe she was partners with Estrellita after all these years, but her name doesn’t appear in those results. Maybe CMLL stepped in at the last second and said no? It is odd how CMLL and The Crash people (Flamita, Laredo, Keira) are on the same show as CMLL ones, but the people behind the Super Astro shows seem to have unlimited money to get what they want. I saw the main event on a Facebook stream and it was a pretty fun match. Rush & Park did their usual stuff, and Dragon Lee is so good that he made me want to see him versus Hijo de LA Park in a singles match.

CMLL (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Retro & Sonic b Metálico & Templario
Metalico replaced Akuma.
2) Angelito, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., El Consejo, The Panther b Hijo del Signo, Virus, Warrior Steel
Match originally had Nitro as a rudo, but El Consejo (Nitro’s new tecnico name) was placed on the tecnico side on Tuesday instead of Fuego, and Warrior Steel turned up for the first time since March 2016 to take his spot on the rudo side. Consejo won in his “debut”
4) Rey Cometa b Sagrado [lightning]
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Soberano Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
Tecnicos took 2 (excessive violence DQ) and 3. Rudos attacked Soberano after the match.
6) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente
Vangellys snuck in a foul on Marco and set up a title match next week.

Vangellys going for the title would be weird on most shows, but 51 year old union leader Nitro was reborn as a tecnico winning matches with a top rope plancha so who even knows what weird is any more.

CMLL (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Artillero, Espanto Jr., Espíritu Negro b Magia Blanca, Robin, Sonic
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca b El Consejo, Oro Jr., Pegasso
El Consejo (Nitro under a new name) replaced Astral on Tuesday. Rudos took 2/3.
3) Amapola, La Comandante, Metálica b Marcela, Silueta, Skadi
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Canelo Casas b Cholo [hairCabellera Vs Cabellera Cholo Vs Canelo Casas (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Canelo took 1/3, winning with a casita. Cholo’s first hair match loss.
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno
Luciferno replaced Ripper (left for AAA mid week but never taken off the lineup despite other changes.)

Neither Canelo or Cholo are booked next week yet. This probably should set up Canelo as a tecnico but I’m not sure if they’re doing it, and there’s at least a chance this is a farewell hair match loss for Cholo. Or, they could just be partners again in two weeks. One never knows.

In RIOT, Fly Warrior defeated Shane Strickland to advance in the quarterfinals of the Powerbomb.TV tournament. This aired on Facebook and will be on their service. It had a rough start, but got pretty good as it went along. Powerbomb hasn’t announced when/where the semifinal + finals will be held, but it’s probably a ways out.

AAA’s show in Arena Neza seems to have drawn a strong card. It was built around seeing Psycho Clown or Dr. Wagner masked for the last time in that arena. On the undercard, they set up a Motocross vs Chico Che hair match for 09/16. CMLL should be worried.

Gimnasio Ajusco in Mexico City was reopened this weekend as a lucha libre venue. The article (and probably the politicians) billed it as the first school of lucha libre in Mexico City, which is not really the case. The article goes onto say the school has been certified by CMLL and maybe they mean the first outside school that’s been like that, but even then I’m sure that’s the case and it’s nothing CMLL has acknowledged. Still, more venues in Mexico City are always a good thing.

+LuchaTV celebrated 11 years of existence with cake after tonight’s IWRG show.

This week’s AAA show is up. It’s a good show.

SuperLuchas looks back at the history of apuesta matches between Americans and Mexicans.

Paranoiko teaches lucha libre to the children.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Segunda Caida watches some 07/21 CMLL and off TV Mil Muertes matches.


CMLL (SAT) 08/05/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Retro & Sonic vs El Coyote & Espanto Jr.
2) Príncipe Diamante, Sangre Imperial, Sensei vs Artillero, Warrior Steel, Yago
3) El Gallito & Microman vs Chico Temido & Mije
4) Fuego, Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Olímpico, Pólvora
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
6) Marco Corleone © vs Vangellys [CMLL HEAVY]
second defense

Zacarias is booked off in Texas, so Chico Temido makes his CMLL debut. He (blond mohawk) and Chamuel (clown) have been working micro matches since at least 2014 and wrestled Mije & Zacarias back in June in Neza, which might have been a tryout for this.

Olimpico is back in Mexico City, as expected to pick up a Ripper bookings. Warrior Steel’s looks to be back full time, as everyone who appeared last March and disappeared seems to be getting brought back. I wonder if we’ll ever get the story of what happened, because it’s very transparent something did go down.

CMLL (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Flyer, Sensei, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
3) Marcela vs Princesa SugehitSiluetaLady MaravillaSkadiDalysZeuxisAmapolaLa ComandanteLa Seductora [CMLL-REINA INTL]
4) Diamante Azul, Titán, Valiente vs Kráneo, Negro Casas, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto

Nitro is back being Nitro. Give it a couple days to see if CMLL screwed up or if the El Consejo thing was just a weird one week deal for trademark reasons.

The most recent CMLL-REINA International champion was a British wrestler with a northern European sounding name, Heidi Katrina. She had barely wrestled for REINA. She still seemed to be on good terms as far I can tell on her Twitter timeline, but that promotion seems to change leadership every nine months and she was probably a previous regime’s choice. (Also, they seem to run about six shows every nine months. VOW’s Wrestling Omakase recently podcast did a deep dive into all the current Joshi promotions and REINA is so minor and barely visible that it didn’t even rate a mention. I think Mr. Cacao and his people are now running the group and that’s why CMLL is still involved, but it’s about the exact opposite of their NJPW partnership and this was a long aside so let’s try a new paragraph.)

So, anyone, random vacant women’s title. This shouldn’t be confused with the CMLL-REINA International Junior title held by Keira, but most people will be because there’s no reason in the world this group needs two titles.. Zeuxis & Sugehit are both in this cibernetico, and Zeuxis is already announced for REINA in October, so she’s the logical favorite.

Blue Panther defeats Adonis before their hair match, La Llave de la Gloria, weekend shows

Sobernao and Titan

CMLL (FRI) 07/28/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticonthecubsfan]
1) Eléctrico & Stukita b Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:42. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso b Puma, Raziel, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:23. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:06. NGD took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Stuka Jr. [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:15. Hechicero won via conjuro
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente b Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:06. Sam Adonis was DQed in fall 1, Blue Panther was DQed in fall 2, Panther submitted Adonis in fall 3.
6) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja b Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:49. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja feuded.

This was a fun show. Nothing really bad, a loud (and large) crowd, and a good set up for next week’s show.

AAA concluded it’s La Llave de la Gloria tryouts today in Celaya. There were about 30 male luchadors trying out, and they split them up into seven matches: one two three four five six seven. All the matches seemed fine, but no one really jumped out from me like the previous tryouts. (It was also a darker building and I didn’t really recognize anyone.) AAA’s been announcing winners in Record on Wednesdays, so we’ll figure out who advances from these quickly. After that, the next step is the Naucalpan show in August which we assume will have all the people who advanced past the first round.

We got the answer to the question I had about Hijo del Santo running the Zocalo. In Esto, Hijo del Santo says he plans to run in Tulancingo on September 23rd, the place of Santo’s birthday. He says it’s “80%” he’s also running in Mexico City, but he’s discovered September is a busy month due to the independence day holiday (!) and so maybe they’ll run in October instead.

this weekend’s lucha


Lucha Underground has a Dragon Azteca promo, which reveals he’l face Johnny Mundo this week.

Segunda Caida watches some recent Los Diabolicos.

Hip Hop Man is running a Hip Hop Man 15th Anniversary show on 08/13.


CMLL (FRI) 08/04/2017 Arena México
1) Drone, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Sagrado, Virus
2) El Gallito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías
3) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Rush
5) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
6) Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis [hair]

This is another show where CMLL could’ve gone the iPPV route but appears to be just airing it like a normal Friday show. The secondary draw here are the micros making the Friday debuts, but it’s also a really good looking card. Niebla Roja vs the Guerrero continues in the semimian, and the tercera should be another strong NGD exhibition. The opener is much better looking than usual.

CMLL on 2017-07-28 

one week away

Recapped: 07/28/2017


Eléctrico & Stukita beat Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
(16:42 [4:44, 2:46, 9:12], 1/3, ok)

Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso  beat  Puma, Raziel, Tiger
(16:23 [6:20, 3:36, 6:27], 2/3, good)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán 
(16:06 [5:03, 3:35, 7:28], 1/3, great)

Hechicero beat Stuka Jr. in a lightning match
(7:15, conjuro, good)

Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis
(7:06 [1:38, 2:57, 2:31], 1/3, ok)

Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
(11:49 [2:43, 3:27, 5:39], 2/3, good)

What Happened:

Titan & Sobreano combo

Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero in the main event and took his mask post match, further teasing a mask match between the two.

The first fall (Adonis) and the second fall (Panther) of the semimain both ended with someone shoving referee Edgar down. Blue Panther submitted Sam Adonis clean to the nudo lagunero in the third. Hype promos for next week followed.


NGD take care of business

The main event was solid, with Mistico really carrying it thru with big spots. (Carístico had a La Mistica issue in the second fall, and there was a nearly as awkward spot where he was standing on the apron forever waiting for the careta to be set up.) They’re trying so hard to make Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero that it very slightly worked here but I think people would be disappointed with it as the Anniversario main event. It’s being forced to be something bigger than it is (a midcard match on the same lines of Adonis/Panther) and Niebla Roja is just not catching on. CMLL is so far behind this that it seems unlikely they’ll pull a detour, but it’s not a great path to be going down.

The semimain doesn’t fit the traditional good match description but it was a riot. Crowd keeps getting more into Sam Adonis; they’d be silly to have him lose right now, and the signs are he’s not. The disqualifications made the falls not be much but stirred up the emotion even more. The other four didn’t really fit in beyond having more people, but Diamante Azul third fall clothesline was really well timed and Rush played along with this well.

a normal Mistico day

The lightning match wasn’t quite as good as some of the undercard, but it would’ve stood out on a lesser day. The early match work in this match was totally smooth. The rest of the match was more their ordinary bits, but done well. Maybe everyone in CMLL should stop going for moonsaults, they don’t work out for anyone.

The tercera looked like a show stealer on paper and lived up to it. The NGD as trios champs make sense because they come off as the possibly the best trio in Mexico. Their team work is great, their stomping the heck out of people to get boos is also great. The técnicos meshed together really well, with Drone stepping up level for the match and fitting in. There were some wild spots and some out of control moments: the triple corner dive looked like the end of them, btu they kept it together. There’s still room to improve with the NGD, they have moves that don’t come off as crisp or as impactful as they’d like. It’s crazy to think how much better they could end up getting.

sure why not

The second match was good action the whole way thru. Fuego and these rudos have good chemistry, and Puma & Tiger push the pace really well. The match also randomly included a lot of hard running forearms to the face. Raziel looked a lot better than usual, with good people to push him to do more. All the lesser considers guys hit their spots and didn’t feel like they were lesser guys.

The opener looked like it was gong to be a pretty fun match, and actually was for a fall or two. They did a lot of good spots in the first fall and the rudos fought back with double teams nicely in the second. The crowd didn’t really give them a chance because it was an opener, but it was still watching until a lengthy and boring third fall. The rudos seemed to run out of things to do as they maintained control of the match, then técnicos comeback wasn’t all that exciting, and then the match just kept going and going for no particular reason. Match lost me by the end.

CMLL tonight, Alberto in Monterrey, Negro Navarro MMA, Santo 100th

MDA (SUN) 07/23/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [+LuchaTV, LuchaMania Monterrey]
1) Androide & Vasco Jr. b Babe Fox & Última Sombra
2) Panthro & Vaquero Romo b Furor & Galactar
3) Antifaz, Caifan, Toscano b Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Máximo, Rey Escorpión (Indie)
Toscano & Pirata were added to the match. Pirata snuck in a foul on Antifaz. Pirata challenged Antifaz to an apuesta match (noting Pirata Sr. once lost his hair to Antifaz.)
4) Dos Caras Sr. & Hijo De Dos Caras DRAW Charles Lucero & Hijo de LA Park
Charles Lucero replaced Super Parka. The fans didn’t like the draw finish but threw money in.
5) Alberto el Patrón b CibernéticoLA ParkLa Máscara
LA Park was the most over of the bunch, though Alberto was still well cheered. La Mascara fouled LA Park, Cibernetico fouled La Mascara, Alberto submitted Cibernetico. Challenges followed, with Alberto making fun of people for always making post match challenges that never happen (which got some brief booing.)

The last we saw of Alberto and LA Park, they were the two making the big challenge which never happened (which Alberto might have been hinting at it there.) Building looks about 80-85% full, though they discounted tickets to get that much. MDA says they’ll air a TV show in Monterrey on TV Azteca Norte (7.2) at 10pm on Saturday, so this show might turn up – but there doesn’t appear to be an internet feed for me to record.

Today’s CMLL show is the quiet before a big couple months. It’s a show with some promising matches, but the bigger news shows are happening in August and September.

Right now, we’re still in the processing of guessing what’ll be on the big show on 09/16. CMLL again will present Niebla Roja against the Guerreros, which appears to be the best candidate because nothing else has been offered. Niebla Roja teams with Mistico & Caristico this week against Gran Guerrero, Ultimo Guerrero and Mephisto. It is about time they pick a direction, but there’s no sure sign they will.

The semimain has a clear direction: it’s Blue Panther & Sam Adonis meeting for the last time before their hair match. Rush & Pierroth will team with the only person hated more than them, and face Diamatne Azul and Valiente.

The rest of the card is just regular matches. Panther/Adonis should do OK on it’s own, but a second important match would help and perhaps something will emerge tonight. Hechicero faces Stuka in the lightning match. Drone, Soberano and Titan meet the new Mexican National Trios champs (and the still Occidente Trios champs) in the tercera. Puma & Tiger team with invincible Raziel to face Esfinge, Fuego and Pegasso. The show opens with an Electrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeno Nitro minis match, which is one of the better minis matches CMLL can do if Mercurio & Nitro aren’t fooling around. I wonder if Pequeno Nitro is going to have to become Pequeno Consejo? (CMLL did briefly tease a mask feud with him and Fantasy.)

CultIcon also previews this show. It’ll air at 8:30pm on Claro and on Facebook. CMLL will have it on their YouTube channel about 20 minutes after it airs.

Negro Navarro, Solar Jr. and Canek Jr. will in having MMA bouts for Lutador MMA tonight. This was just announced a couple days ago and it seems awful quick to have those kind of matches (which may mean they’re not actually those kind of matches.) It’s so last minute that they’re not on the only fight card I can find. Solar Jr. and Canek Jr. will face each other, while Navarro faces Jean Montanez. They’re using CMLL edecanes as well, trying to pull in a lucha libre audience.

Mexico City’s government held a special celebration of the El Santo’s 100th birthday Thursday, with photographs and important people. They announced the Santo outdoor photo exhibition will now be extended to September 6th. They did not say anything about Hijo del Santo’s plan to run a show in the Zocalo in September, though it did at least coming up in passing. This seems like a function where that sort of announcement would be made if it was locked in to happening, but there’s still time left to figure it out.

Lucha Memes says they’re going to run the day after the Anniversary show. I think more people will be in town that day than the day after Gran Prix, but I think a lot more people will be running shows.

Sensacional de Luchador has an interview with Black Terry about his trip to Japan. Black Terry Jr. is going too, so perhaps we’ll end up seeing some videos of this trip.

The Crash promoter Nacho de la O told media at a press conference in Mexicali that The Crash would be on TV by the end of 2017. They had previously said they would be on TV by July. Nacho said they actually had two TV offers right now – which must not be that good, because otherwise they would’ve taken one or the other already. The Crash should probably avoid saying anything specifically about TV until they have something to firm to announce.

The Crash is coming to Guadalajara at some point. Mark all the days on your calendar.

Updated CMLL participation on the Ring of Honor/UK cards (via Hashtag Wrestling)

08/18: Titan vs KUSHIDA (c) [ROH TV], Dalton Castle, Boy 1, Boy 2 (c) vs Jushin Liger, Delirious, Misticio [ROH TRIOS], Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian vs Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero

08/19 (iPPV): Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero vs Mistico & Titan

08/20: Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero vs Mark Briscoe & Jay Briscoe, Mistico & Titan matches still TBA

What we can learn from this is ROH still believes Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero are a tag team (or that their ROH fans will want to see them that way, which might be correct.) I’m going to guess that the 08/18 title match was going to be Mistico/Kushida originally, with the original idea doing a Masked Legends Trio to challenge for those belts.

LuchaWorld has a news update, a new edition of the podcast, and an interview with Tiger.

Segunda Caida reviews Black Terry & Diablo Jr. vs Los Traumas.

Kcidis draws some advice.


IWRG (WED) 08/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Celestial Boy vs Tentáculo
2) Climax Jr. & Shaolin vs Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme
3) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Kanon vs Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Warrior Jr.
4) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota vs Acero, Demonio Infernal, Picudo Jr. [lumberjack]
5) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible

The tecnicos are going by the Dynamic Dragons. I don’t know why the semimain is a lumberjack match and neither do you.

CMLL (TUE) 08/01/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Sugar & Vaquero Jr. vs Pitbull I & Ráfaga
2) Fiero, Magnum, Retro vs Grako, Maléfico, Templario
3) Astral, Blue Panther, Esfinge vs Disturbio, Sagrado, Virus
4) Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sam Adonis
5) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero

The CMLL rookies advance in Guadalajara in mass. They must be setting up something else to have Niebla Roja not be in a main event against Ultimo Guerrero, but who knows what.

07/27/2017 AAA TV results from Aguascalientes (final main taping before TripleMania)

AAA TV (THU) 07/27/2017 Palenque de la Fiera Nacional De San Marcos, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes [AAA]
1) Angélico b Joe Lider
dark match. Angelico won via crucifix powerbomb.
2) Bengala b Australian SuicideVenumMáscara de BronceNiño HamburguesaMurder ClownMonsther Clown [battle royal]
Probably start of Part 1. Winner gets a spot in the Copa TripleMania (others may not be involved in it.) Order of elimination: Mascara de Bronce, Venum, Australian Suicide, Nino Hamburguesa, Murder Clown, Murder Clown, leaving Bengala as the winner.
3) Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin b Averno, Chessman, Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly
Averno fouled Pirata, and Lanzelot picked up the pin.
4) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. b Johnny Mundo & Kevin Kross
Fantasma pinned Mundo after Texano was put thru a table. Vampiro confronted Mundo after the match.
5) Discovery (Aguascalientes) b Xtreme-X [hair, mask]
Discovery kept his mask, took Xtreme-X’s hair.
6) Lady Shani b Big MamiGoya KongLa Hiedra [Reina De Reinas, #1 ContendersEliminatoria para sacar retadora al Reina de Reinas AAA en Triplemania XXV (posted by Nada mas que lucha libre)
Lady Shani beat La Hiedra to get the title shot at TripleMania.
7) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Aerostar, Drago, Raptor Raptor, Drago y Aerostar vs El Poder del Norte por el Campeonato de Tercias AAA (posted by Nada mas que lucha libre)
Match went only about a minute. Raptor did a springboard plancha onto one of the other rudos before the match started, but the other two came thru the crowd and took out the tecnicos. Raptor was taken out (and said to be taken to the hospital) after a move in the aisle, and Drago was quickly double teamed and beat. The tecnicos lead the series 2-1.
8) Pagano & Psycho Clown b Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías
Psycho won, but Wagner once again left him unmasked.

Air Date: 08/26 (hours before TripleMania) and 09/02.

You know what? This is going to come off as cruel and maybe even small minded, but it’s a busy day for me and this is a simple way to hack thru it. Let’s make this a “what’s AAA did wrong in this match” post to be quick about.

1: at least Angelico won? But it’s a dark match. Angelico not being in the plans for TripleMania is sort of fair – it was his choice to go elsewhere for a while, AAA had other things to do – but there’s no real reason he couldn’t have been in the #30 spot battle royal. Or Lider, for that matter. Maybe things will get better after this event cycle, but is only reluctantly using someone who should be an important piece for them.

2: and then the battle royal itself has people who were announced for other matches on TripleMania. Does that mean they’re working Copa TripleMania and working twice? Maybe. Maybe AAA just needed more bodies for a battle royal, but they didn’t use two guys they had. Mascara de Bronce, who’s occasionally teased as challenging for the title in this promotion, is thrown out first. It’s totally going to backfire if AAA puts the titles on Bronce, I like him a lot and do not want to see his career screwed up by a bad creative decision, and I really don’t understand why they haven’t used him stronger to this point.

3: You may remember Pirata Morgan turned on the OGT last time we saw him and had a second mysterious speech to La Parka. You may not remember this, because it hasn’t been followed up in weeks. You may remember that the tecnicos didn’t want anything to do with Ricky Marvin because he abandoned them. It’s unclear if anyone remembers any of this. AAA is doing far more storylines this year, but the week to week consistency is barely existent.

4: Obviously Mundo doesn’t have any big problems if he’s taking pinfalls. The post match was Mundo & Vampiro replaying their bit from Tijuana, where Mundo wants to give up the belts but Vampiro says giving up the belts is disrespectful to lucha libre history and says Hijo del Fantasma & Texano are going to beat him for them. The AAA recap gives the impression that Hijo del Fantasma and Texano stand meekly off camera while this is happening, they are not functional character in their own storyline. On Facebook, Vampiro put over his favorite performer (Vampiro) for his performance. Vampiro is really good at getting himself over with these bits, Vampiro is not really good at getting anyone else over, it’s unclear if this bothers anyone in AAA. (Not just AAA – LU’s Cero Miedo was all about Vampiro being awesome for going thru the flaming table, and Vampiro being awesome for revealing himself as Pentagon’s master. It’s always going to be about Vampiro.)

5:  No one should ever call themselves Xtreme-X. I want a national lucha commission just to veto stupid names, and I want to have that job. If you come in with any version of the word Extreme, any Dragon or any Sexy, you are being rejected. There are enough of all those already.

6:  Lady Shani is now in line for the title shot at TripleMania. She still may not be the only one getting it; MedioTiempo mentions the possibility of unnamed foreign women being brought into get the shot too. On +LuchaTV’s podcast, Sexy Star made it clear that she was back in AAA to be champion but the actual women in AAA weren’t worth her time. Shani’s the best woman AAA could’ve chosen of those who were there, There’s a possibly really good story that could be told her about Shani avenging her real life friend/mentor Taya to get back the title she never lost, but she’s at best just the opponent for Sexy Star to beat, and possibly will still have only a minor role on TripleMania. AAA needs to be making stars who want to work for the promotion, and will instead be using them as filler.

7: Poder del Norte vs Aerostar, Drago and Raptor seems like the best match on the show, so it goes sub 2 minutes. When I saw this result, I thought the tecnicos were going to get forced into having Match 4 on the same night, battle valiantly but lose to tie the series. Instead, the whole thing goes on hiatus for weeks.

8: Dr. Wagner standing over Psycho Clown is a great visual to set up TripleMania. That match is slotted to air the week after TripleMania. I’d like to have hope that they’ll switch things around, but they haven’t bothered in the past.

The next main taping is August 26th for TripleMania – but AAA is doing La Llave a La Gloria on Saturday in Ceyala and 08/15 in Naucalpan, and I’ve realized those are parts of AAA I’m actually more interested in by right now. So look forward to those.


El Rey at TCAs: Lucha Underground S4 “looks good”, Bushido Battleground

The semiannual Television Critics Association is taking place. El Rey, the home of Lucha Underground, doesn’t really rate high enough to get it’s own presentation time at this point. They do rate high enough to buy the critics lunch and have a quick conversation with them over the meal, and that’s what happened yesterday.

The headline grabber was IGN’s quick interview with Skip Chaissen, who’s technically the Chief Creative Officer for El Rey, but also probably better know to use as the guy who’s in charge of the Lucha Underground vignettes. Chaissen said LU S4 “looks good” and he and Robert Rodriguez love the show, but could not confirm a renewal. This is exact same thing other El Rey/Lucha Underground people have been saying for months, both on the record and behind the scenes, but it feels like news in a vacuum of any information about Season 4. It’s not really anything we didn’t know before, it just may stop people for panicking for a couple weeks before something else triggers it.

(It remains the position of this blog that El Rey wants to bring back Season 4 and would announce it this very moment if they could, but El Rey can not afford to pay for themselves and the hold up is seeing if the other owners – MGM? other mysterious people? – also want to come back for a Season 4. It remains the position of this blog that we’re not going to get a yes or no on Season 4 until Season 3 has finished airing. It also remains the position of this blog that this uncertainty is driving everyone involved insane.)

The actual news in that piece is El Rey is having discussions about “where to place [Lucha Underground] on the schedule going forward.” That means they’re at least considering moving it off Wednesday. It’d probably help a little bit not to be heads up against the “live” airing of NXT, but there’s not many places to move too which doesn’t already have some wrestling programming. Also, my hunch is that the percentage of delayed watching (DVR, Amazon/iTunes, even Netflix) is pretty high for Lucha Underground and a chance of time isn’t going to really affect that either way.

The thing El Rey actually wanted to talk about is it’s next new show, Bushido Battleground. If you’ve ever seen a UFC or MMA or WWE show that follows people behind the scenes training for a big match and then having the big match, that seems to be what this is. It’ll be a ten episode, two hour series (notable because everything else El Rey has done has been one hour.) Lucha Underground and the current El Rey martial arts films are mentioned in the release; this show is supposed to sit along with it.

Probably literally sit along with it. As we know, the reason Season 3 was cleaved in half was because El Rey wanted Lucha Underground to still be running when they had their new series ready, and those series weren’t going to be ready until Summer 2017. That press release for Bushido Battleground does not have even an estimated air date. It took about six months for Rite of Passage & Man at Arms to go from announcement to TV screen. LUS3 ends in the middle of October 2017. Six months from today is February 2018. Expect another significant break between seasons.

The Crash: 2017-04-05 

esto es lucha

Recapped: 07/17/2017

All matches took place at Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal on 04/05/2017.

(more GIFs I didn’t use are here.)


Arkángel Divino, Black Boy (Baja California), Zumbi beat  Astrolux, Black Danger (Baja California), Último Maldito
(8:02, Arkangel super mistica on Ultimo Maldito, great, via +LuchaTV)

They told everyone to go nuts in the opener and they went nuts for a crazy eight minute spot fest. Arkrangel & Último Malidto stuff depends on practicing positioning and good timing, but can look out of this world when it all lines up and this was a really good night for that. Astrolux was part of everything else exciting, whether it was planned ot be one or not. (No one was having a good night at catching dives.) Astrolux is so light that he can do incredible flips and be thrown around easily, and it’s all going to be about how well he can survive the insanity. This was totally insane and he did survive it.

Zumbi makes sure Astrolux didn’t die so he can kill him himself

Keira won the The Crash Women’s Championship in an elimination match
(11:05, via +LuchaTV)

  1. champion Sexy Star abandoned the match with an ankle injury

  2. Keira Devil’s Wings Candy White (6:21)

  3. Lady Maravilla northern lights suplex Laura Van Ness (7:24)

  4. Lady Maravilla spinning side slam Santana Garrett (8:33)

  5. Keira capture cradle suplex Lady Maravilla (11:05)

My philosophy on The Crash shows is to watch all the matches, provided there’s a full length version out there. This is a match I definitely would’ve skipped if was more choosey, and I would’ve missed a fun match. It doesn’t really hit the extra gear until the last couple minutes of usual partners Keira and Maravilla going full out against each other, but it’s still fun as soon as Sexy Star leaves the match. She’s not that bad, it’s just a whole lot of her to get in her time before her worked injury, and the match is just an OK point until Maravilla & Keira start taking everyone out. It’s better usage of random one off foreigners than usual. Garrett and Von Ness do fine, but the match is not really about them, they’re just bodies for the regulars to eliminate. Maravilla had some really impressive moments and still gets eclipse by Keira, a world class wrecking machine who probably should put this performance on some permanent highlight reel. All her offense looks devastating, and she comes off as much more imposing than her size would seem to allow. Keira’s been arguabale the best indie luchadora since 2015, but somehow she’s getting even better.

Maravilla makes Candy White look like she has a rubber upperbody

Rey Horuz won a #1 contenders match for The Crash Cruiserweight championship over Laredo Kid, Mr. 450, Séptimo Dragón, Último Ninja, and DJZ
(13:50 Rey Horuz super casadora bomb on DJZ, good, via +LuchaTV)

The six way contenders match is the one where DJZ suffered an injury (on the Laredo Kid stacked up 450 splash) that would led to him nearly dying in the hospital a few hours later. The injury is not at all graphic or even really identifiable: if you knew DJZ got hurt but didn’t know when, you might think it happened on the finish instead. Still, I have trouble enjoying or recommending a match where people suffer near fatal injuries and this one didn’t come together in a way to change my mind. It felt like they peaked early on and couldn’t get the match going to that level again, though that finish did look huge. eptimo Dragon looked better here than he has in other Crash matches, Último Ninja a little bit worse. DJZ fit in with these guys outside of the nearly dying that thing and would be a welcome addition if he ever heads back to Mexico.

pizza DDT
casadora bomb

Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack  defeated ACH, Bestia 666, Black Tauro (Elite) (15:49, The Mack Chocolate Thunder Driver Bestia, good, via LuchaTime)

I think a comedy match was a good change of pace in the fourth match but it still was kind of a goofy comedy match that probably won’t play well outside of that context. Highlight was Black Taurus asking his friend ACH if he would like to also beat up the small person. ACH declined. Action was fine, but not at the level of the other matches, and watching on the different camera made it a little less appealing. (They did pretty well for a fancam though.) It did get more serious as they went along and Jack looked really sharp in this match. Mack winning is really quite random given where they were going. ACH always gets over when he comes to Mexico and seems like he’d do exceptionally well in Mexico but he’d also probably get bored with the limitations of the format. A Mexican promotion bringing him for three weeks every few months would work well, but doesn’t seem realistic.

spinning Michinoku Driver

Daga beat  Extreme Tiger
(5:24, backcracker, ok, via +LuchaTV)

I don’t know what happened with the Tiger/Daga match, but the result was disappointing given the names. It was simply a five minute match with a chinlock and Daga not doing that much. If you hadn’t seen him before, he looked like a random guy who happened to be facing Extreme Tiger. A slower match on a match with lot of crazy matches has to be something special to stand out, and this was nothing special at all.

Bobby Lashley, Carlito, Jeff Cobb beat Blue Demon, Brian Cage, Garza Jr.   (9:21, Lashely foul Garza, ok, via LuchaTime)

If you want a long time spent watching Carlito trying to unmask Blue Demon away from the camera, this semimain is the match for you. This match is a waste of some entertaining people and also Carlito. Brian Cage nearly ends himself on a bad dive and that was the moment where it was clear nothing good was coming of this match. This was a baffling finish, Garza coming off like a good by ripping off his pants and immediately getting fouled. They seemed headed to Lashley/Garza at this point so it kind of made sense, but Garza as a tecnico didn’t seem to win a whole lot.

Cobb reverse spin powerslam

Penta Zero M, Rey Fénix, Rey Mysterio 619 beat Cody Rhodes, Katsuhiko Nakajima, Sami Callihan
(17:27, Rey Mysterio frogsplash Sami Callihan, good, via +LuchaTV)

The main event was better than the couple matches that preceded it, but it felt more like guys doing a B main even than the higher energy matches we had seen before. Some of it’s the length, with them slowing way down (a chinlock!) to stretch it out a bit. Nakajima seemed to disappear for about half this match, but he was fine while he was in, and I liked him better than Cody. It picked up at the end and wasn’t a waste of time, but it seemed more fun live on Periscope than on the rewatch months later.

the end