Lucha Underground 3×23: Family First

Mascarita & Pindar


Cage beat Vinnie Massaro
(3:29, Drill Claw, ok)

Marty the Moth beat Saltador
(7:25, double underhook inverted powerslam face crusher, OK but interesting)

Pindar beat Máscarita Sagrada
(5:55, Pain Killer, good)

Fenix beat Mariposa
(5:32, Fire Driver, good)


bye Vinnie

Lucha Underground is now halfway through the first round of the Cueto Cup and the format has definitely been established:

  • 4 matches, all from the same group

  • 1 Rey Mysterio/Johnny Mundo video package building to their match

  • heavy focus on a singular storyline (one that was setup before the hiatus)

Last week was Cage’s episode. This week was all about the relationships between Marty, Mariposa, Fenix and Melissa Santos. Fenix and Melissa are flirting with each other. Marty is serial killer levels of obsessed with Melissa; she’s not aware how bad it is. Mariposa relished the idea she might get to have a match with her brother and doesn’t seem to like him, but seems to see him as a tool in whatever long term plan she’s got.

Mariposa’s plan didn’t work here; Fenix beat her in a match that was back and forth but never felt like the former champion was in danger of losing. Marty attacked Fenix afterwards, which the announcers was believed to be about them being next round opponents but was probably more about Marty’s jealousy. Marty himself defeated Saltador, then returned to his lair to reveal an altar of Melissa photos, a piece of Melissa’s hair stashed away, and an extra photo being kept in Marty’s pants.

Mascarita Sagrada diving headscissors

The other two matches were without as much incident. The Rabbit Tribe still believes Máscarita Sagrada to be their god. He doesn’t share their belief, and it didn’t help him much against Pindar of the Snake Tribe (though he got in a lot before losing. Cage also advance by defeating Vinnie Massaro. Vinnie got in a surprising amount of offense before deciding to mess with Cage’s glove and angering him. There seemed to be some definite backslide in that plot line this week: Cage was able to remove the glove (Delgado believed Cage could not last week, though perhaps that was just a bad assumption) and Cage’s post match gloved punches to Vinnie’s head bloodied him, but did not blast his head to pieces. Vinnie was battered as usual, but lives to fight another day. Just not in this cup.


The other pattern in this first round Cup matches is they’re giving everyone at least some time, and giving chances for the obvious first round losers to still get some attention in a loss. Vinnie got nearly 4 minutes, Sagrada got about 8, the other two were in between. There hasn’t been an upset yet, but those out of the tournament are getting to showcase their personalities in the ring in a way that’s going to help when Saltador is back teaming with the Rabbit Tribe or Mariposa is part of a group instead of an individual.

Fenix well timed dropkick

These matches also just felt more successful than last week. The Rabbit Tribe matches are good examples: Mala Suerte showed off his skills, but had trouble connecting it to his persona. Saltador did a whole bunch of weird and strange mat wrestling matches that fit better with a strange guy in checkered outfit. At this level, it’s not about establishing finishers for credibility, it’s about just making the guys more identifiable next time they come on screen.

Vinnie became identifiable as the guy who will totally kill himself in his one squash a season. He got in the snoring elbow, he got in more offense than anyone thought, but – just like in the Pentagon match – he took a few huge bumps to put over his opponent big. Getting dumped all the way to the floor looked devastating. I’d like to see him more often, but I’d also like to see him one piece.

this got violent

Pindar is the best guy on the roster to have a match with Máscarita Sagrada. No one’s going to be a better base for his moves, and do his best to make it look good. This was the best Máscarita Sagrada has looked in a match on this show, even considering the Believer’s Backlash is going to be much more remembered. It’s probably the best he’ll look unless they bring in a mini rudo to work with him.

The Mariposa character is inconsistent – she was introduced as just about the baddest woman in the world, but she’s definitely never been booked that way for long and her acting scared of superkicks played against that even harder. (If it was supposed to be a ploy to distract Fenix, it wasn’t done well enough.) It also pushed to questions of man on woman violence to the forefront of a show trying to background those concerns as much as possible. They may have done all that to make it clear Fenix isn’t a jerk for fighting a woman, but one of the larger premises of the show is everyone’s equal in the Lucha Underground ring and those two thoughts don’t mesh. The action of the match was really good, one of Mariposa’s best matches here, and the story they told around those elements was fine enough, but the context made it less enjoyable.

The Marty stuff would feel over the top if I didn’t just see Lorenzo Lamas’ eyeball on the floor last week. He’s going all in the character – which is almost not even needed, since the crowd seems to be reacting to him that way without having even seen the vignettes. But at least it’s a direction for their second round match, the only one so far that has an obvious issue.

snoring elbow from @snoringelbow

AAA on Televisa: 2017-06-17

just another day for Mascara de Bronce

Recapped: 06/20/2017

All matches taped at Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal on 05/26/2017.


Aerostar & Drago beat Australian Suicide & Bengala for a AAA World Tag Team championship match
(7:59, Dragon’s Lair on Bengala, via AAA, good)

Máscara de Bronce defeated Venum  Lanzeloth, and Raptor in a four way Oportunidad de Oro elimination match
via AAA, ok)

  • Raptor code red Venum (5:34)

  • Mascara de Bronce 450 splash Lancelot (7:07)

  • Mascara de Bronce code red Raptor (8:30)

El Mesías & Pagano © beat Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(14:19, Pagano Air Raid Crash Scoria,
via AAA, ok)

What happened:

Destello Azul style plancha

Mesias & Pagano defeated Cuervo & Scoria to win the tag team championship. The match was originally a non-title match, but made a title match by Vampiro (off screen) before it started. Mesias looked disinterested in being there until the titles were on the line, and he and Pagano had no issues while winning the titles.

A new concept, “Opurtunidad de Oro” debuted. The match was a four way elimination match, where the wrestlers would be awarded attaché cases with special contracts in order of their elimination. Venum was out first, and was given a shot at the mixed tag team titles if he can find a partner. Lancelot was out second, receiving a spot on TripleMania in a legends battle royal. The debuting Raptor (Atomic Boy in a dino costume) got a trios title shot with two partners of his choosing. Mascara de Bronce won the match, and received a case containing a contract for a Heavyweight Championship shot whenever he wants.

new tag champs

Aerostar & Drago won a spot in the Verano de Escandalo tag title match by defeating Bengala & Australian Suicide. (The match was said to be with both Pagano/Mesias and Cuervo/Scoria, and no mention of any change to that lineup was made after the main event tag title change.) Suicide acted like a normal tecnico most of the match, but shoved referee Copetes into the ropes late to knock Bengala off the top rope. Suicide wanted to try to win the match himself, missed on his usual finish, and Drago beat Bengala shortly after. Suicide sarcastically offered Bengala a handshake after the match, but Bengala walked out on him.

The show began with Faby Apache and her two non-wrestling sisters Nancy & Jessy. It’s bookended by a Lady Shani’s parentes talking about their daughter, who thanks her father for Father’s Day.

Noti AAA talks about AAA partnering with Mexico City on a health promotion. There will also be a special Panini magazine for TripleMania.

The referees have new “MILANO” shirts. Tirantes’s suspenders would cover up part of the logo, so he’s stuck having them just hang from his pants this show.


Mascara de Bronce tricky armdrag

This show had three matches about at the same level. Nothing bad, though not really came together to be great. I liked them in descending order.

The opening tag match was good as a spot fest. It never developed as more than being one dimensional, and it wasn’t crazy enough to really stand out, but it still felt different and more interesting than most things around here. The crowd was ready to boo Suicide, partly for the same reasons the Mexico City crowd always boos Angelico and maybe partly because they figured out he’s supposed to be the rudo, and maybe the match would’ve felt like it had a story if Suicide worked a rudo for the whole match instead of just one spot near the end. It really made no sense that everyone was fine with him when he attacked them all last time we saw them, and Bengala looks like a dope to continue to team with him, but so it goes in AAA. This had Drago & Aerostar doing neat things and that’s all I ask for.

a Drago dive

The four way was also just kids doing crazy stuff and it worked for being that, coming off as exciting if sloppy indie match dropped on to this show. Mascara de Bronce looked the best and deserved winner, though I wish him missing a dive to the floor meant something a bit longer. Raptor is a more identifiable character than Atomic Boy, but the mask looks too much like a rudo goon for a guy who’s supposed to be a tecnico, and he struggled with moves while trying to figure out his character. It might have helped if had more time in the outfit before this TV Match. AAA did a generally ok job presenting the concept (though it sure looked like the ‘contracts’ were just random printouts), though I was left wondering if the match would’ve been more over if they announced the prizes beforehand: the crowd treated the match like it was not that important and maybe would’ve gotten more into the finish if they knew it was for a title shot.

The tag team title match just didn’t hang together for me, even though the effort was there and they worked closer to a tecnico versus rudo story than the opener. They even bypassed the hardcore spots to just make a move match, something that should appeal to me more but I couldn’t get into for some reason. Cuervo & Scoria still aren’t clicking as characters, and this featured a lot of Pagano trying to impress with what he can do and doing it not well. (He’s also the king of standing around and watching blankly while obviously waiting for his next spot.) The crowd was into this match and into Pagano, so I don’t argue with the decision at all, it just wasn’t for me.

Volador outlasts Cavernario, Cueto Cup continues, Santo in the UK


CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Magnum & Rielero b Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Cosmos, Eléctrico, Stukita b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Relámpago Azul
3) La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany b La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany (posted by thecubsfan)
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto (posted by thecubsfan)
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan)

This is not last night’s Guadalajara results. These are last week’s ones, which were only posted last night. And by posted, I mean the only text was mentioning the main event result and I’m guessing the rest of the results via the pictures. Apparently posting results is really hard and you should all be amazed I’m able to do it in the regular as well as I do (which is not well enough.)

CMLL (TUE) 06/20/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticon, Ovaciones]
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000 LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Magnus, Metatrón, Oro Jr. b Akuma, Canelo Casas, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Cuatrero, Sam Adonis, Sansón b Blue Panther, Drone, Fuego LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Adonis snuck in a foul Blue Panther.
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Carístico, Mistico, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Volador Jr. © b Cavernario [NWA WELTER] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15th defense (seems to be billed as 14)

You should go out of your way to see the main event. Culticon had it as the best CMLL singles match this year and I think that may be right, the best matches so far this year have all been tag matches. This is the fourth strong singles match of the year for Cavernario already, joining the FantasticaMania match against Dragon Lee and two with Rey Cometa (plus one of those really good tag matches.)

The rest of the card didn’t seem quite as strong as hoped but it was still a good card and a well attended one due to the discount.

Lucha Underground tonight is episode 3×23, “Family First”. It’s expected to be the first round matches in Group B of the Cueto Cup:

Family First would seem to refer to Marty & Mariposa. Last time we saw Marty, he was spying on Melissa Santos and then tied up in rope by Mariposa (payback for Marty attacking her before.)

The Lucha Libre World/Todo x el Todo annual tour of England begins tomorrow. They’re running in Manchester’s Albert Hall tomorrow, and York Hall in London on Friday and Saturday. This is the tour where Santo Jr. debuted last year. The Santos, Casandro, Laredo Kid, Silver King, Bandido, Mascartia Sagrada and Octagoncito are among those advertised.

AAA showed off a Dr. Wagner logo plane, which will take fans buying their travel package to the Ring & Rock StAAArs show in September. There’s also scheduled to be a Psycho Clown plane.

AAA’s show in Nuevo Laredo looks like it had a lot of open seats in this news report. It looks like some of the pictures from Juarez, where ringside was full and the bleachers were most full but the floor seats a few rows back were vacant.

Lucha Memes says one of their wrestlers will debut in CMLL on July 21st, Black Terry & Negro Navarro will return to the promotion sometime that month. and they’ll be debuting in a new building to lucha libre on July 15.

The PWG tag title match is now available on Highspot’s Network. I believe it’s two one camera shoot with no announcers.

Negro Navarro will be in Seattle this weekend, appearing on the Lucha Libre Volcanica show and teaching a two day seminar.

Dos Caras will appear at Slammiversary, in Alberto’s corner for the Impact/GFW championship match against Bobby Lashley. Dos has been in Alberto’s corner for matches in AAA (and WWE when they toured Mexico), and might figure into the finish – something where people go after Dos and Alberto is distracted fits as a usual out.

A new luchador named “SuperXStar” is scheduled to debut at Juventud Guerrera’s Super X show tomorrow. R de Rudo interviews him, reveals he’s the former Alas de Oro.

The Los Exoticos documentary will be aired on June 24 in Mexico City’s Faro Aragon. An all exotico lucha show will proceed it. That documentary has been around for a number of years but hasn’t gotten wider distribution.

There will be a lucha libre art exhibit on June 29th in Guadalupe, Nuevo Leon.

Hijo del Santo is angry a tournament on an AAA spot show is named after El Santo.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

DoradaFan has highlights of January 17, 2017 CMLL

MDA announced a mystery wrestler for a mystery location sometime in July.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Rey Fenix, talking about defending the PWG titles in Mexico.

Periodico La Voz interviews Sexy Francis.


IWRG (SUN) 06/25/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Tentaculo vs Power Bull
2) Climax Jr. & Shaolin vs Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme
3) Alas de Acero & Aramis vs Demonio Infernal & Metaleón
4) Dinamic Black, Gallo Frances, Pantera del Japon vs Cerebro Negro, Eterno, Tyson La Bestia
5) Heddi Karaoui, Trauma II, Villano III Jr. vs Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera I
6) Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Veneno vs Black Warrior, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I
7) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro [hair]
3 v 3 hair match

Now we know why the Oficials are back. I think Hijo de Pirata Morgan can do a better first hair loss than this, unless he really just wants the moment of losing his hair with his father and brother. The officials will have more trouble.

The fourth match has a French chicken & Japanese panther. The third match looks good.

Tentaculo is a new name. Octopus?

CMLL (TUE) 06/27/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Sugar & El Alteño vs Carlo Roggi & Destello
2) Explosivo, Leono, Sensei vs Akuma, Joker, Metálico
3) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi vs La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Valiente vs Pólvora, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

A show. Sugehit/Zeuxis make their way here. CMLL has two different people on their lineups named Joker at the same time, possibly hasn’t figured it out.

CMLL (TUE) 06/27/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sangre Imperial vs Cholo & Templario
2) Astral, Magnus, Robin vs Artillero, Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo
3) Johnny Idol, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Raziel, Sagrado, Virus
4) Esfinge vs Disturbio [lightning]
5) Fuego, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

We’re getting so much Diamante Azul next week, I wonder what new tattoos he’ll have. Hijos del Infierno are teaming up a lot without a trios title program. Opener would be the first CMLL streaming appearance for Templario since July.