Atlantis/UG tonight, Casas defeats Lee in Guadalajara, Navarro/ZSJ


CMLL (TUE) 04/11/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Esto es Lucha GDL]
1) Fantástico & Magnum b Linterna & Mr. Apolo
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Esfinge, Pegasso, Starman
Rudos took 1/3
3) Kráneo, Luciferno, Mephisto b Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr.
Kraneo replaced Ephesto (still out with an injury). Rudos took 1/3.
4) Negro Casas b Dragón Lee
Casas took falls 2/3. Fans threw money in.
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Diamante Azul DQ La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush
Tecnicos took 1/3, Pierroth unmasked Diamante Azul for the DQ. Los Ingobernables ended up unmasking all three tecnicos.

Casas/Lee will air locally, but the show is blacked out nationally. CMLL could upload the match or air it somewhere elsewhere else if they’d like, but that’s not an important thing to them. Casas beating Lee is something that I would have a problem with if it was pretty much anyone beside Casas. He can win forever and it’s fine.

CMLL tonight has an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero match. It feels like a match we’ve seen a lot, but you can slice it up that it’s sort of a fresh match in Arena Mexico. They haven’t had a CMLL singles match in that specific building since the 2015 Universal final. They have had one in Elite, and in Colise, and twice in Puebla. Still, it’s 10 months since they’ve had a singles matches at all, a miracle given CMLL’s love of matching up the same half dozen people in singles matches. It should be good if predictable, as they always are. Ultimo Guerrero’s title being on the line means he’s probably winning, but it’s far enough for the Universal tournament that they could figure out the title math later.

The Copa Junior Nuevo Valores also starts tonight. CMLL’s run Copa Juniors before, sometimes with top guys and sometimes with early match lucahdors. “Nuevo Valores” here indicated “people not important to get into the Reyes del Aire last week”. Soberano, Cuatrero, The Panther and Drone all are good and stand a chance of winning. Oro Jr., Canelo, Hijo del Santo Signo and Espanto are neither good nor have a shot.

The dream tecnico trio of Caristico, Dragon Lee and Mistico face Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja in the semimain, which should be a tecnico win given the issues Niebla Roja is having with his partners. Diamante Azul, Stuka and Valiente versus Mephisto, Negro Casas and Sam Adonis in a fourth match; Adonis get to replace Ephesto, but may regret it when he takes an Azul German suplex.

Angel de Oro versus Hechicero was added late to the show as a lightning match. Shockercito, Stukita and Ultimo Dragoncito take on Mercurio, Pequeno Nitro and Pierroth in what could be a pretty good minis match if they have some freedom and interest.

The show will air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports. I’ll be live streaming in on my YouTube channel if they geoblock it again.

AAA also has a rare non-TV show in Arena Naucalpan tonight. Main event is scheduled to be Monster Clown, Murder Clown and Pagano against La Parka, Psycho Clown and Texano Jr., but Texano may not around.

Promociones del Pueblo has a brief text interview with Dulce Garcia (Sexy Star) talking about her boxing bout, which still has no opponent named. This would actually seem incredibly unfair to Garcia under normal circumstances, not knowing who you’re going go to fight would seem to make it more challenging, but no one expects to be normal circumstances.  The card (and I assume her match, though it’s not said) will air on Televisa Deportes in Mexico but doesn’t seem as though it airs in the US.

Lucha Memes/MDA has Chairo 10 on April 28 in Arena Naucalpan

Will air on: nothing announced

Back in January, Hechicero threw out a challenge to ZSJ, so fans were wondering why he wasn’t in this match. Dhani Ledesma of Lucha Memes posted a video last night explaining it, but the video disappeared – it seemed like it cut off, so it may be a tech issue than changing his mind about things. In the video, he explained Sabre is very tough to get, running on Friday helped make it possible, but CMLL needed Hechicero on this Friday so they had to go a different direction.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

MondoLucha announced Matt Cross & John Morrison vs Penta el Zero M & Rey Fenix for 09/09 in Milwaukee.

Kcidis cartoon theme is always.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-04-10 

Police Man can catch criminals, not dives

Recapped: 04/11-12/2017


All matches aired live from Arena Puebla on 04/10/2017, and can be seen on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

  • El Joker & Rey Apocalipsis beat Asturiano & Zaeta Roja (2/3, 15:23 [7:54, 3:29, 4:00], ok)
  • Black Tiger & Tigre Rojo Jr. beat Fuerza Chicana & King Jaguar (1/3, 15:25 [7:05, 3:19, 5:01], below average)
  • Drone, Fuego, Stigma beat Disturbio, Puma, Tiger (2/3, 14:55 [5:04, 3:45, 6:06], ok)
  • Espíritu Maligno defeated Policeman for, in a hair vs hair match (2/3, 11:30 [2:09, 2:31, 6:50], good)
  • Mistico, Titán, Valiente defeated Cavernario, Negro Casas, Niebla Roja (2/3, 12:17 [4:10, 4:09, 3:58], good)
  • Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush in a relevos increíbles match (1/2, 4:59 [0:46, 4:13, 0:00], below average)

What happened: 

around and around

Espiritu Maligno defeated Policeman in a hair match. It’s Policeman’s fourth straight hair match loss and Espiritu’s first hair match win after losing his last two.

Rush and Atlantis agreed to a match after Rush cost them the match this week.


no idea what Stigma was doing, not sure he knows

Ingobernable matches are easy skips. Rush seemed to be working harder than usual, but it was an absurdly short match to set up a bad finish. That’s the norm and not the exception.

The semimain was nothing fancy, a simple match worked really well. Mistico and Negro Casas did the easy trading of casita pinfalls to give the match a beginning and end, and they were sharp in between even if they weren’t going full out Cavernario & Niebla Roja looked good in this and Roja will be missed as a rudo, if he’s ever going to actually turn.

The hair match was a medium level Puebla locals match made by the occasion. This is a good watch if you can feel the crowd, and not a big deal if you can’t. Policeman is the same Policeman he’s always been, even back to the new stars tournament in AAA, but Espiritu used to be a more dynamic wrestler and doesn’t seem as much today. He’s always been willing to throw himself around and the highlights of this match are the big bumps he takes and his slightly off aim moonsault to the floor. The moonsault didn’t look great, the thru the ropes exit really didn’t look great, the effort is there but it wouldn’t have been enough to carry the match if not for the stipulation. CMLL style is generally static, but it changes a bit, and it’s weird to see the dive→cavernaria spot here after it used to be so common and now is never gone. The finish comes off really odd, with Espíritu taking a powerbomb on the floor, and then getting in all the offense to get the win.

their best contribution

The third match’s first fall ends with Tiger trying to give Stigma a backcracker once, Stigma not going, Tiger trying again, Stigma taking the backcracker but no selling it out and attacking Puma before he can come off the top rope for his own front cracker. It goes nowhere, Puma and Tiger turn it right back around and Puma gets the same front cracker in for the win, and came off like Stigma forgot what he was doing or just decided he wasn’t going down that way. It looked really shakey, either way. The rest of the match was better, and they made use of the time they got it. It didn’t feel similar to the usual Puma/Tiger matches though it had about the same rhythm. That first fall bit so annoyed me that I can’t recommend it but can see why other people might feel more positive about.

In the first fall of the segunda, Tirantes counted three on a spot where both rudos kicked out. (Tirantes looked down on the mat and had decided it was the end of the fall no matter what.) It’s clearly not supposed to be the end of the fall, but they do a better job of going with it than usually when Tirantes messes something up. Tigre Rojo looked better than normal, but the rest of the match wasn’t noteworthy and this is not so much a great use of time to watch.

get out of here Joker

The opener seemed sloppy, with Joker & Zaeta having trouble early. Joker just was generally in the middle of issues: he did a top rope splash and didn’t cover when it wasn’t a pin, and he kicked Asturiano hard in the back of the head. Asturiano rolled out, and didn’t come back in when it seemed like he was supposed to finish the fall. (The doctor checking Astruiano’s eyes seemed like a clue.) Asturiano continued, and the double pin they did made it seem like an angle, but they’re not matched up next week so whatever. Asturiano was the best guy in the match when he had his wits among them.