CMLL on 2016-12-09 

Vaquerita elbow drop to the floor

Recapped: 12/11/2016

What happened: Same things that happened last week: Caristico wants a match with Ultimo Guerrero, Maximo wants a match on Mascara 2000, and all the women want a match with each other. This show is an effort in duplication.

What was good: I liked the second match and not much else.

Where can I watch it:  It’s on my channel. Read More

Ultimo Guerrero wins (of course), Tuesday preview, Cara Lucha, Lucha Memes


CMLL (SUN) 12/11/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Domingos Familiares CMLL]
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Johnny Dinamo b Destello & Destructor
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Carlo Roggi & Linterna b Cosmos & El Alteño
Linterna replaced Mr. Apolo. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Demonio Rojo, Évola, Gran Kenut b Javier Cruz Jr., Mágico, Smaker
Cruz & Kenut are feuding. Rudos took 2/3, Kenut using the ropes to pin Cruz. Challenges followed.
4) Frezzer & Neutrón DCOR León Blanco & Mr. Trueno
Rudos took 1, tecnicos took 2, both sides brawled outside to a countout. Challenges followed, with the rudos saying they’d accept the match the day the tecnicos were able to beat him.
5) Infierno, Pitbull I, Ráfaga b Magnum, Nautilius, Star Black
Rudos took 1/3. Infierno’s first match here in almost exactly two years. He submitted Magnum at the end.

Ah, they’re setting up a cage match too. I wonder if Triton, Gallo and Esfinge get pulled in, or if they’ll do a different title match with them. Infierno suddenly showing up throws him into the possibilities.

CMLL (MON) 12/12/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Fuerza Chicana & Guerrero Espacial b Astro & Zaeta Roja  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Robin & Star Jr. b Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Astral, Asturiano, Eléctrico b Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Saurón  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper b Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Ephesto, Mephisto, Rush b La Máscara, Rey Bucanero, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush & La Mascara ignored their teams and worked together.
6) Último Guerrero © b Valiente [NWA MIDDLE]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
UG took falls 2/3 to keep the title in the usual manner. 9th defense, 4th shot for Valiente.

Saw the main event, which was had nothing new. UG kicked out the Valiente Buster and escaped the Indian deathlock before Valiente went up for the moonsault.

Tonight’s CMLL show has a Guerrero Maya versus Ephesto singles match. I’m not sure really why. They did feud for a few weeks, it makes sense how they got there, I’m just not sure why they started with the idea of Ephesto in a singles match. Still, it’s interesting. 2016 CMLL is all about running the same singles matches so many times (see Puebla lineup for next week), even a non-promising match looks exciting because it’s at least new. Maya wins, but on Martes de Viejos Valores, anything is possible.

That’s not the main event, which seems like a sensible decision. The actual main event is Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr., and Volador taking on Hechicero, Luciferno and Mephisto. I have a (unconfirmed) guess the national trios titles are going to change hands before they go to Japan. All three tecnicos are on the FantasticaMania tour, so this could be the start of a program (and there’s really not much time left to do start one if it’s going to happen.)

The rest of the show has Blue Panther, Drone and Fuego taking on Bobby Z, Rey Bucanero and Vangellys in the fourth. The Panther brothers team with Pegasso face the complete Nuevo Dinamitas trio in the usual good tercera. The second match has a trio of rookies – Magia Blanca, Principe Diamante, Sangre Imperial – taking on a trio of rudos – Cancerbero, Raziel and Sangre Azteca. Fantasy & Dragoncito face Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Violencia, who can only be better than last week.

The show will air at 7:30pm on YouTube & CMLL.

Guadalajara has Atlantis, Maximo and Valiente versus Niebla Roja, Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero. That’s probably is setting up another UG/Valiente match, unless we’ve all mocked it enough to get them to swerve to something else. There’s also an Elite themed show in Arena Queretaro, with Rey Escorpion & Argos versus Mr. Leo & Caristico in the main event.

Xtreme Tiger thanked TNA for his time there and changed his Twitter name to XtremeTigerTJ. I’d assume his contract with TNA ran out. He’d previously said they hadn’t been in contact with him for months and he hadn’t been on the show in even longer.

Pentagon Jr. will face Cody Rhodes on 02/17 near San Francisco. Pentagon will not be on PCW’s show on 01/20; he’s been pulled to work Guerra de Titanes and Drago replaces him. I don’t quite understand how it took until now for AAA to know they’d need Pentagon in Mexico. As soon as they decided to run Guerra de Titanes in January and not December, that was the date that was going to make the most sense, and it seems like they’ve made that decision a month ago. At least the indie promotion was told plenty in advance this time. The last few weeks of AAA TV have been hinting at a Mundo/Pentagon title match, so that could be Pentagon’s Guerra de Titanes match, or they could stick them all in a trios match and kill more time until Rey de Reyes. Meanwhile, Drago not being on that show slightly increases the chances he and Aerostar are losing the tag title belts in Chilpancingo this weekend.

On today’s Wrestling Observer Radio, the hosts referenced LigerFever’s translation of Konnan’s interview on Los Reyes del Biutiful. They specifically brought up the story about Alberto slapping Dorian, in the context of Alberto’s issues this weekend. Dave Meltzer said he was told the story wasn’t exactly true: Alberto was definitely very angry about AAA trademarking the name, but it didn’t come to physical violence.

This week’s Box Y Lucha focuses on their awards. There’s a lot of focus on their awards. Photos of the award ceremony were on Facebook this weekend, with people not there confused at the people winning the awards. Letra Roja’s lucha column explains the deal: you could “win” an award via buying it from Box Y Lucha, and luchadors from places far away from Mexico City are going back home with a plaque. Not all of them were bought, but the people who won them were generally more big names who brought in to be guests for the dinner. This is consistent with Box y Lucha’s policies in general, where you can get an interview or show coverage by paying for it. It’s better than Box Y Lucha not existing at all, which has happened during in past decades, but it leaves the magazine with a lot of interviews with obscure people or small shows and not a lot of insight.

Legend moved their Christmas Day AAA show at Arena Aficion to 12/27. They’re the first promotion to announce a move, though it’s possible others have done before announcing their cards.

MedioTiempo & +Lucha have the five minute recap of the week in lucha libre and an interview with Mascarita Dorada from a week ago that I missed.

LuchaWorld has the latest podcast and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Jack Evans was interviewed in Basta a few days ago. It sounds like he’s got a busy indy schedule post-AAA.

La Union has a nice interview with local Cuernavaca luchador Destello, who is another one who doubles as a mask maker.

There’s a new lucha libre themed restaurant in Dallas.


CMLL (MON) 12/19/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger, Lestat, Millenium vs Ares, Fuerza Chicana, Policeman
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Metálica
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Hechicero, Puma, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Johnny Idol vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

They’re doing another Volador/La Mascara match. I have no idea why. I don’t really want to see it. The rest of the card isn’t much good except for the tecera which is usually good (but could use some direction.)

Lucha Memes (SUN) 12/25/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Astrolux, Baby Star Jr., Black Metal, Ciber Punk, Demus Black, Garrobo Punk, Keira, Rebelde Punk vs Araña de Plata, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Skanda [Torneo FILL]
Lucha Memes (Jack Evans) vs IWRG (Black Terry)
2) Jack Evans vs Rey Cometa
3) Veneno vs Mr. Niebla
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther (CMLL) © vs Black Terry & Negro Navarro [Arena Coliseo TAG]
5) Trauma I vs Satánico
6) Aramis vs Iron Kid, Alas de Acero, Sádico, Freelance, Mike Segura, Arez, Belial, Impulso [cage, mask]

Maya & Panther defending the tag titles is the last match to be added. (The Maya/Terry promos came out before the Dinamitas title shot, so this was probably booked for a while and Lucha Memes politely kept the match quiet until it was safe to announce.) Poor Panther must think he’s teaming with this nice, upstanding guy, and is going to find out he’s teaming with an actual lunatic when Maya gets in the ring with Black Terry again. Hope they do the final match by pinfall for the cage match, doubt they will. I would pay $6 on iPPV for this show easily, even on Christmas Day.

Cara Lucha (SUN) 01/01/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Flama Roja, Toro Negro III, Toro Negro Jr. vs Alas de Acero, Alas De Plata, Pegazus
2) Arceus, Atomic Fly, Príncipe Aéreo vs Imperio Negro, Torito Negro, Yin Sang
3) Corsario Negro & Gallego vs Látigo & Trauma I [Juventud y Gloria, quarterfinal]
4) Demus 3:16 & Yoruba vs El Bandido & Solar I [Juventud y Gloria, quarterfinal]
5) Templario & Último Guerrero vs ? & ?? [Juventud y Gloria, semifinal]
Guerrero & Templario face the winner of Gallego/Corsario & Trauma/Latigo
6) Volador Jr. vs Fénix El Rey vs Flamita

Try #2 for this match, with the hope that Fenix will be healthy. Fenix suggested he’d be using a new name in Mexico (though keeping Rey Fenix for the US) to avoid the trademark issue, so Fenix el Rey seems to be it.

Seems unfair that UG & Templario get to face someone who’s already had a match, but everyone has to make due and it’s a better to have three tournament matches than seven.

No Christmas Day show for Cara Lucha.

new lucha videos for the weekend of December 9th


PROESA was a repeat. Noches de Coliseo is canceled, and Llaves won’t air again until at least March. There’s at least three different weekly recordings I could cancel now.

12/10 & 12/11 WWC: Cloud Drive

CMLL Lucha Libre Retro: 2016-12-09
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-09-24 @ Arena Coliseo
1) Magnus, Marvel, Robin vs El Coyote, Grako, Nitro
2) Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

CMLL on 2016-12-09
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-12-09 @ Arena México
1) Robin & Stigma vs Sangre Azteca & Skándalo
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger
3) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Zeuxis vs Dalys, La Vaquerita, Marcela in a relevos increíbles match
4) Valiente vs La Máscara in a lightning match
5) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Máscara Año 2000, Shocker, Terrible
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Mephisto, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

IWRG Zona XXI: 2016-12-09
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-12-04 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Dowki, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Príncipe Orión in a lumberjack strap match
2) Imposible vs Relámpago
3) Chicano, Danny Casas, Veneno vs Dr. Cerebro, Eterno, Pirata Morgan
4) Killer Jr. & Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Golden Magic & Pantera I

AAA on Televisa: 2016-12-10
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-11-20 @ Gimnasio Municipal Jose Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
1) Big Mami, Niño Hamburguesa, Octagoncito vs El Apache, Lady Shani, Mini Psycho Clown
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman
3) Garza Jr., La Parka, Texano Jr. vs Brian Cage, Johnny Mundo, Marty Casaus

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2016-12-10
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-11-28 @ Arena Puebla
1) Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma vs Puma, Skándalo, Tiger
2) Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy vs Kráneo, Ripper, Shocker
3) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, La Máscara, Último Guerrero

IWRG Zona XXI: 2016-12-12
Cloud Drive
taped 2016-12-11 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. vs Rafy, Teelo, Mike, Leo, Freelance, Mike Segura, Danny Casas, Veneno, Hijo del Alebrije, El Hijo del Diablo, Diablo Jr. I, Black Terry, Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago, Pantera I, Killer Jr., Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr., Dr. Cerebro, Hijo De Dos Caras, Golden Magic, Emperador Azteca, Picudo Jr., Eterno, Oficial AK47, Astro, Tony Rivera, Mr. Águila for the IWRG Rey del Ring
2) Dragón Fly © vs Demonio Infernal [AIWA ARGENTINA CRUISER]