Lucha Underground 3×13: Breaker of Bones

this was perfect
this was perfect


Pentagon Dark b Doku (6:10, ref stop broken arm, OK)
Pentagon Dark b Yorei (7:10, ref stop broken arm, good)
Hitokiri b Pentagon Dark b (12:46, Far East Destroyer, good)
(Black Lotus vs Pentagon Dark never really starts.)


Pentagon wasn't playing
Pentagon wasn’t playing

Pentagon Dark’s battle against the Black Lotus Triad took up the entire hour. (Helpfully, the introduction recapped the build up to this feud and nothing else.) Pentagon faced the three new women one by one. Doku tried to strike with Pentagon, and quickly paid the price. Pentagon brutally destroyed her for a long period of time before Doku was able to mount a comeback. Doku landed a famous elbow drop, but went for it again and was caught in the armbreaker.

Yorei found more success with speed and traditional moves, then even beat an off balance Pentagon around the ringside area. (She tried to use the ring bell on him, with comically soft results.) Pentagon was able to turn it around once they got back in the ring, smiling Yorei made one more charge, but was caught right in position for the package piledriver. She was done, but Pentagon made sure to break her arm too.

Hitokiri had the best plan, sneaking in behind Pentagon, dropkicking him out of the ring, and then taking him out first with a moonsault, and then a tope. This was the most back and forth of the matches, the longest, and maybe most violent. Hitokiri even dove off Dario’s office (the first woman to do so, which might be a bigger trophy than winning the title in Lucha Underground.) Pentagon tried to break her arm, but instead was beaten by Hitokiri’s Far East Destroyer for the second time.

elbow drop did look great
elbow drop did look great

The final match, with Black Lotus, never really took place. Lotus decked the referee before he could call for the bell. Yorei & Doku returned to help Lotus and Hitokiri break Pentagon’s arm. Pentagon was too worn down to fight back. As soon as they did, Dragon Azteca appeared on the stairs. Azteca came to the ring and, despite their antagonistic history, Azteca & Lotus didn’t fight. Lotus took the Triad away while Azteca grabbed Pentagon’s good arm, and broke that too. Pentagon broke both Azteca and Lotus’ arms at Ultima Lucha 2, and they both broke his arms tonight. Vampiro, who’s been thrilled by the violence (in general and to Pentagon Jr. in particular) was very pleased by the outcome.

That wasn’t the last of Vampiro. The show closed with a shot of Prince Puma waking up in a half opened casket, with a demonic Vampiro looking over him. Vampiro told Puma to come with him as the show ended.

simple spots can look vicious
simple spots can look vicious

There were no other matches on the show, but a couple of other vignettes. Catrina ran into Jeremiah Crane, who seemed hopeful Ivelisse would return in time to face Catrina as Ultima Lucha 3. Catrina wasn’t there to really talk about that, but the necklace Crane’s been wearing (one that’s been unremarked upon until this point.) Catrina claimed the stone in the necklace was from her Stone, and “his flesh” was here for her; he was still in love with Catrina. Catrina declared she was in love with someone else. She could’ve meant Mil Muertes or Fenix by that, and she could’ve meant some ancestor of Crane was in love with her. As with most Catrina segments, the truth wasn’t really clear, but it was accurate enough to leave Crane uncomfortable.

We did briefly see Dario Cueto, attempting to make the obvious match from Aztec Warfare 3: his brother Matanza getting a title rematch against Johnny Mundo. Matanza loudly bellowed he didn’t want that, much to Dario’s confusion. Matanza wants revenge on Mysterio instead, revaling he’d bloodied his fists by pound the wall, and used the blood to draw a question mask. Dario was freaked out. It was that kind of episode.


Matt Striker: “It’s violent, it’s disturbing – and Vamp, it is awesome.”

Vampiro: “I’m so happy.”

Vampiro’s occupied and delighted all episode by the violence. Both just the existence of the violence, and that it happens to be his old estranged student Pentagon. We’re meant to be a little concerned by his behavior. Striker’s the voice of the writers, and his line was more a mission statement of what we were supposed to feel. I was most of the way there. It was definitely violent and it was definitely disturbing.

Near the end of the show, I wrote about how this episode would likely be more polarizing than even Sexy Star winning. I got some push back on that, and it’s not with out merit. If you’ve found yourself uncomfortable with men on women violence, you probably have not made it to episode #80 of this series. (Though, I’d expect – just like with the Sexy Star win – those who did give up on this show to react to this as validation for their decision.) Those who are left have made either no issue with it at all on a scripted television show, or have decided the overall positives of the show outweigh the negatives. I think I started out in the first category and moved to the second somewhere along the line, and then felt myself moving past that a bit tonight.

lands the tope and avoids the stairs
lands the tope and avoids the stairs

I know these are all trained skilled professionals. I know the women would and probably have taken the same level of punishment in matches against other women as they took from Pentagon. The rational part of my brain knows Pentagon and Doku performed an excellent looking superkick spot, and still the irrational part is not all entertained by seeing that man kick that woman very hard. This is a ruthlessly rational website, and yet that’s not the part of the brain that’s winning this argument.

The match with Yorei was the most resembling a normal wrestling match (and, thanks the comedic bell shot, definitely the least violent.) The opener with Doku, and large portions of the fight with Hitokiri, were disturbing and meant to be so. The best art leaves you a little disquieted. It’s a too much to call an episode of Lucha Underground art, but they definitely wanted to get feelings out of people and they surely succeeded.

One bit I’m sure they wanted to get out is Pentagon, at least up until the end of this episode, was meant to be the bad guy in all of this. Striker had the unenviable task of trying to portray the rabid Temple crowd as secretly trolling Pentagon by loudly chanting his catch phrase. I’m not sure a single person bought into it, but it was obviously a way to prepare the audience for both Black Lotus and Dragon Azteca getting their revenge without making them into the bad guys. (This might be the first time Azteca has actually succeeded at something since the trios title win!) This was Pentagon’s past catching up to him, and hopefully he’s reborn without baggage when he comes back. The Puma/Vampiro skit suggests he (or we) won’t be that lucky.

maybe the most brutal moment
maybe the most brutal moment

In a more strictly wrestling perspective, Pentagon took the loss and had his arms broken, and he still seems more over than when he started the night. The deadliest man has been crippled twice in two seasons and still comes across as ferocious in the process. And, while all three women did fine for themselves (and looked more gifted than “the best athlete in Lucha Underground, Sexy Star”), Hitokiri shined brightest. She’s obviously a superstar, they realized it enough to make sure she was the one who didn’t get her arm broken, and I hope they do whatever they can to get her back for Season 4. (Sadly, it’s one match an out for Season 3.)

I liked the Crane/Catrina segment, if only to look forward everyone else trying to make head or tails out of it. If El Rey had the budget for these things, they ought to cut together a special of Catrina’s scenes with in between explainers to help people out with the plot. (Or, maybe a fan should do it, if it was possible to do those sort of things on YouTube without getting a takedown notice.) Matanza came across menacing in his promo, though the bloody hands might be some unfortunate foreshadowing. The Puma/Vampiro bit to end was a nice bit of weirdness, and probably an intentional call back to Catrina/Mil reawakening scene in episode 1. Coming back from the dead has it’s consequences.

this dive and Pentagon's bump
this dive and Pentagon’s bump

Extra Gifs:


Pentagon versus the Black Lotus Triad tonight, LU notes, CMLL Tuesday results

a Fuego GIF
a Fuego GIF

CMLL (TUE) 11/29/2016 Arena México [CMLL, Culticon]
1) Bengala & Sensei b Apocalipsis & Grako LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sensei replaced Leono.
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragóncito b Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Fuego b Forastero [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Forastero replaced Arkangel.
4) Misterioso Jr., Olímpico, Sagrado b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Pierroth b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Pierroth replaced Ripper. Rudos won in straight falls, Ephesto sneaking in a foul Maya.
6) Ripper, Shocker, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Mistico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ripper replaced Mephisto (though Pierroth was listed there this morning.) Rudos took 1/3.

I didn’t watch the card. It seemed OK. The deal with Pierroth remains weird.

Diamante Azul is off all cards. Volador replaces him Saturday. Atlantis is in on Sunday. Not sure if it’s an an injury or he’s gone back to France (he indicated he wouldn’t be going back any time soon on his last Informa appearance.) Forastero also replaces Sangre Azteca on Sunday.

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is 3×13, “Breaker of Bones”. Matches announced

  • Pentagon versus the Black Lotus Triad
  • and nothing else

Lucha Underground has revealed the names of the Triad: Doku (Kairi Hojo), Yuri (Mayu Iwatani), Hitokiri (Io Shirai – or Oyuki if you have a deep memory of short term AAA gimmicks.) The clip they’ve released appears to be the open of the show, which leads into Pentagon Dark versus Doku. (Also, Vampiro telling scary campfire stories.) There’s no other match hinted at, which suggests the gauntlet may last the whole hour. I’m just not sure how that’ll work; if they go one match per segment, they’re still short at least a segment. Maybe there’s another match or surprise coming, but I generally suspect they’ll catch up with a lot of other people in cut scenes.

Lucha Underground EVP Eric Van Wagenen was on last week’s Masks, Mats & Mayhem for about the first half of the show. He was very excited for this week’s episode, saying it’s a rare episode where he watched the live cut of the show the same night it happened because he just wanted to see it again. For him, it’s one of their “top two or three” episodes. They love the Stardom women. DeJoseph saw them at the first Stardom USA show and call Van Wagenen raving: “I just saw the three greatest female Japanese wrestlers, and one of them (Io) is the Japanese Fenix. You’ve got to check them out.” Van Wagenen went the next day to see the second show, was similarly impressed, and tried to sign them right away. I had thought they were only used for a limited time because the travel/cost, but Van Wagenen says he was told their schedule was already pretty much full. Shirai, Hojo, and Iwatani happened to be coming over this weekend for a convention, so they worked the scheduled around it.

(Mia Yim/Jade and Santana Garrett were mentioned as two others LU tried to sign off those Stardom shows. I think they came up before.)

There was a fair bit of talk about the Sexy Star title win and loss. To his knowledge, Sexy was not the long term original plan, but something that came up “fairly close to the match.” Chris DeJoseph and Chris Roach dropped the idea on him, he asked “you know we’re going get shit on for doing this, right?”, they did, and they went with it. The general idea they don’t want to ever be playing it safe: “We’re not traditional, and we don’t want to be traditional.” Once they decided to do a title match, it was always meant to be a one episode thing, they didn’t have cold feet and change their minds or anything. Van Wagenen’s feeling is the fan reactions the last couple weeks was about what they expected, but more towards the positive side, and they figure/hope that if you don’t like that, there’s something else they’re doing that’d keep you watching.

That did leave me – and the hosts – with one big question: if Sexy Star was a late decision, who was supposed to be champion? Van Wagenen was evasive on that, only saying they had to change the first half of the season because of “injuries and other travel issues.” Angelico & Ivelisse are the most obvious injured people, and the hosts pressed about Ivelisse. Van Wagenen thinks the fans would’ve bought into it, and the Season 2 opener was testing the waters for it, but didn’t seem to think it was the plan.

(The travel issue might have been related to Taya based on a later discussion, or it might have been more people. Travel/immigration comes up again when talking about a discussion about who’s really dead, so maybe it was a Daga joke?)

The other thing that came up about the title change was the shot of the four women in the front row cheering for Sexy Star right at the finish. Plenty of people, myself included, wondered if they were plants. Van Wagenen’s explanation is they were the wife of a cameraman and her three girlfriends, in Los Angeles for a bachelorette party. They were on VIP guest passes, and they were moved to a camera friendly position as part of a normal policy of trying to make the crowd look as diverse as possible on TV. (That’s a thing you can do when you don’t charge for tickets.) Van Wagenen were not paid to be there, and the show generally can’t afford to pay to cast people as plants if even they wanted to do that. Later, when talking about the camera people who love to work on the show for the experience, Van Wagenen mentions an Emmy award winning cameraman turning up one weekend to ask to film the show, but they had no room in their budget to pay him. (In that case, the camera guy still wanted to work for free, and they used the footage for some of the “previously” show opens.)

The big picture question is when Season 4 will be taped. That’s still up in the air. It won’t be January, and the closest to a date is Van Wagenen saying “Ideally, we’re taping in the spring”, to avoid taping in the hot summer. He was careful with his words, noting a lot of things are in the air. He made it clear he expects the show will return for season 4, but as of yet they don’t have a pick up or a set budget and don’t expect to have that by the end of this year. They can’t work on taping dates until that happens.

I’m already cribbing too much, so I’ll cut if off there. You should go listen to the podcast for the stories about Mil Muertes punching Van Wagenen at the last LU live event and why there were so many Rabbit Tribe vignettes.

CultIcon has a preview of the show.

Kahn-Del-Mal promoted the upcoming Chilapancingo taping as “the last one before Guerra de Titanes.” My guess has been AAA would start 2017 with their usual year end show (which I guess is now the usual year start show) and that seems to be happening. The date and location is still unknown; it was 01/22 in Mexico City this year.

A LA Park vs Pentagon vs Pagano match in Nuevo Laredo ended with some of the usual challenges, but also LA Park expressing his feelings about AAA’s office (and portraying Pentagon as their puppet.)

Averno brags about the OGT’s trios title win and Drago & Aerostar talk about their tag title match.

CMLL’s health announcement with the senate turned out to be participation in a campaign against prostate cancer. Hechicero & Estrellita represented CMLL. The cancer is currently not discovered/treated until it’s in an advance state for 75% of Mexican men, so they’re working on prevention and awareness in a campaign starting next year. Hechicero says his father has fought this cancer for 20 years.

CaraLuchas says the Hechicero/Fly Warrior vs Ultimo Guerrero/Templario match on 12/03 will be the first part of a Gran Alternativa like tournament they’re doing. They’ll be announcing more on this tournament later today.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report, including a recap of the newly named +LuchaTV podcast, EN+CARADOS. On that podcast, Extreme Tiger said he’ll be out 2-3 months after hurting his shoulder on The Crash. The podcast also mentions Caifan said Sunday was his final Lucha Memes show, though no one seemed to know why.

Kcidis draws LA Park & Rush’s Christmas wishes.

Bandido sees his first season in Elite as improving from making a lot of errors in his debut to improving enough to win the welterweight title match in the end. (That generally would be true if not for the harsh ending to the title match.)

The New Yorker has a video story on Cassandro.

CultIcon pleads for Valiente to put on some pants.


CMLL (TUE) 12/06/2016 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Príncipe Diamante, Sangre Imperial, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
3) Star Jr. vs Raziel [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Pierroth
6) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Carístico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja

Semimain is a rematch; not sure if Ephesto/Maya has a better chance than Ephesto/Idol but who knows. Fourth match should be fun. Principe Diamante gets booked two straight weeks, which maybe justifies working all year for a bodybuilding contest.

CMLL (TUE) 12/06/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Reyko vs Carlo Roggi & Thunder Boy
2) Leono, Magnum, Star Black vs Artillero, Ráfaga, Rey Trueno
3) Princesa Sugehit, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, La Comandante, La Seductora
4) Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Terrible
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

A Sky Team main event with Mr. Niebla.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-11-28

gun fight
gun fight

Recapped: 11/29/2016

What happened: Valiente & Ultimo Guerrero are feuding too.

What was good: The tercera was fun in the usual way terceras are.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel now and 52MX in a couple weekends. Read More

AAA on Televisa: 2016-11-26 

never change Averno
never change Averno

Recapped: 11/27/2016

What happened: OGT won the titles by DQ. Tirantes was helping them all match, but actually fairly ruled the DQ since the Apaches got involved and attacked him. (This might have been a Zorro plan, but everything Zorro says confuses me.) Psycho Clown is now losing to the likes of Murder Clown.

What was good: Nothing. This show is in a dry spell for matches and doesn’t seem to be getting better any time soon.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel. Read More

Valiente/UG fued in Puebla, Pierroth vs his sons in Arena Mexico?

Sky Team makes it easy to find a GIF, just go backwards one minute from the finish and find the dive spot
Sky Team makes it easy to find a GIF, just go backwards one minute from the finish and find the dive spot

CMLL (MON) 11/28/2016 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Black Tiger, Meyer, Vega b Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely b Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Puma, Skándalo, Tiger b Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Kráneo, Ripper, Shocker b Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Gran Guerrero, La Máscara, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Valinete & UG feuded, and UG unmasked Valiente for the DQ after taking Valiente’s finish.

They’re setting up another Valiente & UG match, which means Valiente is probably going to resume losing NWA Middleweight championship shots around 12/12. (Or they could just make it non-title.)

Like last night’s Arena Puebla show, last week’s Tuesday show had a title match so they’re resetting back to square zero. It’d be more entertaining if there were more angles going on so everything didn’t reset every few weeks, but I’m uncertain if CMLL’s concerned about being entertaining.

CMLL’s preview promotes the show as Pierroth against his sons, which befuddled me this morning because Pierroth isn’t listed on the poster. It appears Pierroth has taken Mephisto’s place on the show. CMLL’s switched Pierroth out of matches with his sons before, so it wouldn’t be too big of a surprise if another change was made. As it is now, Mistico, Dragon Lee, and Angel de Oro face Pierroth, Vangellys and Shocker in something that doesn’t seem like a great mix of people. The semimain is Blue Panther, Rey Cometa and Guerrero Maya versus Ripper, Luciferno and Ephesto (who’d make the most sense to move up instead of Pierroth, though this match would suffer.)

The rest of the show is the usual mix of random matches. The show opens up with Bengala & Leono taking on Apocalispis & Grako. Astral returns to CMLL action, teaming with Electrico & Ultimo Dragoncito versus Mercurio, Pequeno Olimpico and Pequeno Nitro, which might be the best match on the night. Fuego faces Arkangel in a lightning match; Fuego should win, but recent Tuesday booking suggests he won’t. The fourth match is Star Jr., Oro Jr., and Pegasso versus Sagrado, Olimpico, and Misterioso Jr.

Estrellita says CMLL will have an announcement around noon today at the Senate about health. This sounds like a health care plan, an idea which was suggested back in September when the senate passed the annual day of lucha (and this past week for older luchadors.)

Guadalajara has the bigger show tonight, with Negro Casas vs Caristico in the main event.

GALLI says Gringo Loco is doing good and in good spirits.

AAA posted matches from 1995 for the first time: Los Power Raiders vs Heavy Metal, Picudo, Angel Mortal, Marabunta, and Mr. Condor in an elimination match and Rey Mysterio, Octagon, La Parka vs Psicosis, Pentagon and Fuerza Guerrera. I’ve only seen the first one so far; it’s more of an exhibition for the Raiders than a great match, but it’s still neat to see the Raiders (and not on a third generation VHS.)

LigerFever has a translation of the second part of Konnan’s podcast with Juventud Guerrera, who feels Ultimo Guerrero ripped him off.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Pentagon Jr. was interviewed by the Miami Herald.

Triton won a GALLI title, which makes it sound like he’s going back, but then this same title was bouncing around in Mexico for years.

Wrestling with Words writes about Hechicero vs Virus.

CMLL’s Diosas del Ring did their own Mannequin Challenge.

LLF has a Diana la Cazadora vs Nina Monet hair match on 12/02. Monte won a singles match between them this past week.

The Social Topcast writes about Trauma I versus Canis Lupus.


IWRG (SUN) 12/04/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly vs Araña de Plata & Demonio Infernal
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Dowki, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Príncipe Orión [lumberjack strap]
3) Imposible vs Relámpago
4) Chicano, Danny Casas, Veneno vs Dr. Cerebro, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr.
5) Canis Lupus & Killer Jr. vs Golden Magic & Pantera I

First IWRG show in two weeks due to not running mid week and Chairo running last Sunday. (No mid week show this week either; maybe we won’t get another one until next year.) IWRG seems to be building towards Pantera I/Killer Jr. as a big year end match, which is one of the least exciting and most random matches to make. It’s a far way from Trauma I/Canis Lupus. Imposible & Relampago may have a better match (both here and the title match they’re building towards), though Relampago doesn’t have a history of great matches.

The bottom of the poster mentions fans can vote for the mejor luchador of 2016 (in person), with the award going out on the annual year end party. It’ll be on 12/21 this year.

CMLL (MON) 12/05/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis, Asturiano, Millenium vs El Malayo, Espíritu Maligno, King Jaguar
2) Black Tiger, Flyer, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Policeman, Sansón
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Disturbio, Hechicero, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Sam Adonis, Shocker
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, La Máscara, Último Guerrero

Rematch in the main event. Tercera looks promising. Can the excitement of the Dinamitas over ride the lethargy of Policeman and Black Tiger?

new lucha videos for the weekend of November 25th

IWRG didn’t run a show. Monterrey didn’t air. I pulled the Crash off the feed after the fact and split into matches, but you can still watch it on their website. I couldn’t figure out when PROESA was taped, and I accidentally flipped the power off on my computer during the show, so I just left it in one chunk.


11/26 & 11/27 WWC: Cloud Drive

11/26 PROESA

11/26 Elite USA

CMLL Lucha Libre Retro: 2016-11-25
taped 2016-09-17 @ Arena Coliseo
Cloud Drive
1) Flyer, Sensei, Star Jr. vs Hijo del Signo, Metálico, Nitro
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Virus

CMLL on 2016-11-25
taped 2016-11-25 @ Arena México
Cloud Drive
1) Aéreo & Eléctrico vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Ripper, Sagrado
3) Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) La Máscara vs Hechicero in a lightning match
5) Dragón Lee & El Cuatrero vs Puma, The Panther in a seeding battle royal match
6) Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger vs Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther in a tournament semifinal match
7) El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón vs Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth in a tournament semifinal match
8) El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger in a tournament final match
9) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

AAA on Televisa: 2016-11-26
taped 2016-11-04 @ Gimnasio Hermanos Carreon, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
Cloud Drive
1) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Mamba, Súper Fly, Taya
2) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro © vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin for the AAA World Trios Championship
3) La Parka, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. vs Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Pagano

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2016-11-26
taped 2016-11-14 @ Arena Puebla
Cloud Drive
1) Astral vs Astro, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito, Vega, Demus 3:16, Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Saurónin a cibernetico match
2) Dragón Lee, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Pólvora
3) Atlantis, Rush, Último Guerrero vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match

The Crash: 2016-11-26
taped 2016-11-26 @ Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
Cloud Drive
1) Arkángel Divino, Ely Everfly, Mirage vs Black Danger, Douglas James, Último Maldito
2) Black Boy, Oráculo, Próximo vs Aero Boy, Drastik Boy, Jinzo
3) Keira vs Sexy Dulce [The CRASH WOMEN]
4) Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack vs Bestia 666, Black Tauro (Elite), Demus 3:16
5) Flamita © vs Extreme Tiger [The CRASH CRUISER]
6) Jeff Hardy, Rey Fénix (LU), Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Jeff Cobb, Nicho el Millionario, Teddy Hart

great match roundup, week of 2016-11-19

Dragon Lee

Noted army men Polvora, Killshot & Dante Fox all had pretty good matches. Dragon Lee is sort of his own one many army.

rating matches TV Show taped
great Dragón Lee © vs Pólvora for the CMLL World Super Lightweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-11-21 2016-11-21
great Dante Fox vs Killshot Lucha Underground: 2016-11-23 2016-04-10

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Chairo6, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.
photo by Black Terry Jr.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 11/27/2016 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), R de Rudo]
1) Laredo Kid b Rey Cometa [falls count anywhere]
Very good match. Laredo Kid asked for a title match against Cometa after the win.
2) Arez, Astral, Belial, Impulso b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid, Shockercito and Freelance, Pantera I, Sádico, Último Dragóncito
Seems to be setting up a cage match with the non-CMLL minis.
3) Negro Navarro b Puma King
lucha clasica, Navarro submitted Puma.
4) Star Jr. DCOR Soberano Jr., Dragón Lee
none of the wrestlers were happy with the results
5) Felino b Dr. Cerebro [el privilegio]
Felino won when the referee allowed Tiger to interfere and foul Dr. Cerbero as his privilege (rule exception), but Felino had already used his privilege.
6) Atlantis b Alberto Dos Rios, Magnífico, Último Vampiro, Marchitas, Black Metal, Baby Star Jr., Zoy Raymunda, Avenger, Astrolux, Drako, Gato De Ecatepec, Juan el Ranchero, Súper Chiva, El Monje, Mano Negra, 19 1/2 [Memes Rumble]
17 names (though 21 came out, so probably missing a few.) Atlantis (winner) and Mano Negra were the big surprises.
7) Valiente DQ Black Terry [super libre]
DQ in a super libre when Valiente faked a foul
8) Hechicero b Caifan [NWA LH]
This was set up originally as three fall match, but Hechicero also wanted to make it a title defense. Caifan and the commission agreed. First fall went to a draw and Hechicero won the second fall (and it seems as though they didn’t do a third fall since Caifan couldn’t win the title at that point.) First defense.

Haven’t seen a lot of reviews of the shows yet – I think I need to start looking more places? – but my impression is the first and last matches might have been the best. Atlantis showing up in the Memes Rumble and winning the whole thing was a genuine cool surprise. Caifan seems to have bled a lot in the main event, and Terry did as well in his match. Dragon Lee was wearing a Rush/Lee fused match; is this a Pokemon situation where a Dragon Lee can evolve into a Mistico or a Rush depending on what item they’re holding? I’m not sure the world is ready for a second Rush.

Attendance looks good, though maybe not the sell out past Chairo shows have been. +LuchaTV was posting post match interviews during the show (go down to 226 on the playlist for the new stuff) and will post highlights soon, though you can find video clips now on Facebook if you look around.

CMLL has an ordinary show in Puebla tonight. Last week had the Polvora/Dragon Lee match, and they built up nothing particular for this week. (Astral’s injury seems to have derailed whatever they were planning with him and Mini Joker as well, though maybe it’ll be back next week.) The main event is the Sky Team versus Gran Guerrero, La Mascara and Ultimo Guerrero, something similar to a trios title match they just did. The semimain has Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol, Maximo versus Kraneo, Ripper and Shocker. There seems to be a monthly match in Puebla that looks like it’d be good except for the never changing Stigma/Skandalo feud; this months match has Esfinge & Fuego versus Puma & Tiger. The second match has Amapola, Seductora, Tiffany versus Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit and Sanely. The locals are only in the opener, with Black Tiger, Meyer and Vega versus Ares, Guerrero Espacial and Sombra Diabolika.

CultIcon previews this show. It’ll air at 9pm on YouTube/, where there hardly ever is a region block.

There’s video of Drago & Aerostar wrestling in Tennessee this weekend.

Mil Mascaras defended his title over Nosawa.

There’s a rockabilly festival with a lucha libre match in Mexico City on 12/17.


CMLL (SAT) 12/03/2016 Arena Coliseo
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi vs Amapola, La Comandante, La Seductora
3) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Z, Forastero, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Sam Adonis
5) La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja vs Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr.

Mr. Niebla is back, after a seven weeks break.  Tercera is a rematch, so maybe they’re going somewhere with the tag titles after all.

CMLL (SUN) 12/04/2016 Arena México
1) Flyer & Robin vs Artillero & Inquisidor
2) Fantasy, Shockercito, Stukita vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Fuego, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Sangre Azteca
4) Blue Panther, Drone, Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Z, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Shocker, Terrible

Volador & Mascara back in the main event.

CMLL (SUN) 12/04/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. vs Destello
2) Black Sugar & Micro vs Destructor & Quca
3) Capitán Cobra & Fugaz vs Linterna & Mr. Brisa
4) Frezzer, Magnum, Vaquero Jr. vs Joker, Mr. Trueno, Sádico
5) Esfinge, Neutrón, Tritón vs Exterminador, León Blanco, Maléfico

And Triton is back in Mexico, as he had mentioned. This is the locals only show, so he’s being booked thru them and not back with CMLL entirely, though he’s promoted as the big deal on the show. The Leon/Neutron feud resumes after a week off.

CMLL on 2016-11-25

the smaller Panther hits much harder
the smaller Panther hits much harder

Recapped: 11/27/2016

What happened: Dinastia Casas won a trios tournament to earn a title shot at some undetermined times. Ultimo Guerrero cheated to beat Caristico. There were a lot of matches.

What was good: Panthers/Casas is still pretty good and I enjoyed the main event.

Where can I watch it: It’ll be on my channel tomorrow (and you can find it already if you’re bored.)

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LA Park defeats Masada, The Crash, CMLL weekend results, DTU iPPV match announced

photo by Black Terry Jr.
decided to use the handshake photo instead of the sticking each other with sticks photo, thank me later?/photo by Black Terry Jr.

The Crash (SAT) 11/26/2016 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [+LuchaTV]
1) Black Danger, Douglas James, Último Maldito b Arkángel Divino, Ely Everfly, Mirage
2) Black Boy, Oráculo, Próximo b Aero Boy, Drastik Boy, Jinzo
turned into a trios match with Oraculo (Florida) and Drastick Boy added.
3) Sexy Dulce b Keira [The CRASH WOMEN]
Vacant title. Lots of interference spots with the seconds.
4) Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack b Bestia 666, Black Tauro (Elite), Demus 3:16
Jack Evans was the surprise tecnico.
5) Flamita © b Extreme Tiger [The CRASH CRUISER]
Extreme Tiger hurt his shoulder early, and tried to continue the match after a a few minute break. He was still obviously hurt and the commission shut the match down.
6) Jeff Hardy, Rey Fénix (LU), Rey Mysterio Jr. b Jeff Cobb, Nicho el Millionario, Teddy Hart

I saw the last half of this show, you can see the whole show still on their website; there’s one camera person who wasn’t into moving much, so set your expectations lower than you might otherwise. The fourth match looked good and it sounded like the second match was good. Tiger/Flamita wasn’t much due to Tiger’s injury. Main event probably won’t hold up after the fact but definitely entertained the crowd. Teddy Hart and Jeff Hardy both acted strange, but when do they not? The building appeared to be sold out or close to it, better than the prior show, and Jeff & Rey were the two huge stars to this crew. (Nicho is also more over here than anywhere else.)

LLB (SAT) 11/26/2016 Arena Lopez Mateos [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), R de Rudo]
1) Bracito De Plata, Felinito, Lunatik Xtreme, Tritoncito b Agulita Solitaria, Macizito, Panterita, Súper Pinochito
2) Ojo De Halcón b Ram El Carnero, Dragón Bane
3) Freelance b Demente Extreme, Makabre, Eterno, Brian Villa, Mike Segura, Draego, Willy Banderas, Toxin Boy, Fresero Jr., Fly Star
Fresero Jr. replaced Atomic Star.
4) Atm, Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Fantasma de la Ópera b Arez, Belial, Impulso
Cerebro Negro was supposed to be on Fantasma’s side, and a TBA with the Indys. Neither appeared so they did a trios match.
5) Ángel o Demonio & Ovett b Apolo Estrada Jr. & Halloween and Cíclope & Paranoiko
Apolo Estrada Jr. replaced X-Fly. Paraoniko betrayed Ciclope.
6) LA Park b Masada (Texas) L.A. Park vs Masada | BOOM | 26-11-16 (hardcore) (posted by TVLuchaMundial)

I previewed a bunch of shows and forgot about this time. The main event looked suitably violent and so did many of the other matches.

A Lucha Libre Boom show scheduled for 12/14 in San Luis Potosi was canceled; the speculation is the venue rented out the building to someone else instead.

CMLL (SAT) 11/26/2016 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Leono b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi b La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica
tecnicas took 1/3
3) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther b Bobby Z, Forastero, Sansón
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Titán
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Terrible

A normal Saturday show. Maya & Panther teamed up, it never occurred to me that they might have set up an Arena Coliseo Tag Title defense – and they didn’t, so I guess I was OK not to notice.

CMLL (SUN) 11/27/2016 Arena México
1) Robin & Sensei b Camorra & Cholo
tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Hijo del Signo, Metálico, Nitro b Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Stigma
rudos took 1/3
3) Ángel de Oro, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Sangre Azteca, Skándalo, Virus
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Dragón Rojo Jr., Kráneo, Pólvora b Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr.
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Ephesto, La Máscara, Mephisto DQ Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr.
Rudos took 2/3, the last when Mascara faked a foul.

I’m alright with them setting up another La Mascara/Volador singles match as long as it’s on the show I don’t have to watch. (Though, as much as I don’t want to see them, Volador singles matches are the kind of things they should be putting on VOD.) Caristico losing in a meaningless second match is so weird.

DTU announced Kevin & Jimmy will face Gallego & Mr. Condor in a hair match on their 12/15 DTU iPPV. That’s one of the matches set up on the Arena Aficion show earlier this month, and now we know it’ll be a match where just one person loses their hair three people lose their hair!. The iPPV plug does mention the show will air live, which will be exciting and hopefully not fraught with problems. On a DTU show tonight, Ovett beat DTU Consgrado champion Sharlie Manson in a multiman match, and challenged for a title match on 12/15 as well. DTU has a show on the 2nd in Oaxaca, and I’m guessing the full lineup is revealed after that.

In Guadalajara, Rey Star lost his mask to Kal-El in a ruleta de la Muerte. Rey Star is Juan Carlos Torres, 16 years a wrestler.

AIW posted a message saying Chicago’s Gringo Loco was hospitalized Saturday night. The story is he appeared to have a heart attack after wrestling on a show Saturday night, but is said to be stable. I hope everything turns out OK.

La Parka gives his financial advice: do not spend all the money in your paycheck, pay more than the minimum on your credit card, and invest wisely.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

UNAM is looking for a graduate student for a lucha libre history project. I’m not sponsoring this but I probably would.


KDR (SAT) 12/03/2016 Arena Azteca Budokan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Astrolux vs Black Metal
2) Danger & Rocker vs Alfa & Samy Madrid
3) Arceus, Baby Star, Solaris vs Deirio, Lunatik Fly, Lunatik Xtreme
4) La Jarochita & La Magnifica vs Muñeca De Plata & Zeuxis
5) Ciclón Black, Príncipe Diamante, Veneno vs Criss Boy, Samoano, Toxin
6) Magia Blanca vs Flyer, Centvrión, Mr. Leo [#1 Contenders, ELITE WELTER]

Winner of the main event fourway faces Bandido at some point. That’d be fun, but the match itself should be fun even if nothing else happens. It does seem like Elite’s letting the champions do whatever they want with their belts in between the seasons, which isn’t seen rarely with the AAA & CMLL belts.

We’re kind of in a fuzzy area about what lineups and results I should include – this show might end up getting recorded and someday turning up on Powerbomb.TV. It also might not, or might not show up for a while. I’ve backed away from covering stuff on this part of the blog that’s not at least watchable or interesting, because there just doesn’t seem to any point to it, but now there’s plenty of stuff I can get your hopes up for maybe no reason.