AAA on Televisa: 2016-10-08 

business as usual for Aerostar
business as usual for Aerostar

Recapped: 10/27/2016

What happened: Monster Clown & Murder Clown betrayed Psycho Clown, who was figuratively and literally badly burned. Faby Apache got locked in a room (which turned out not to be so locked.) Aerostar & Super Fly kept the tag titles.

What was good: I liked the ladder match and had not a lot of use for the rest. I realized AAA main events are going to mostly be Psycho Clown getting beat, making a brief comeback, and then getting screwed for the next year straight (after happening for most of the last six months), and it is good that I realized that but not good for wrestling action.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel. Read More

Ultimo Guerrero beats Rush, LU in Houston, Lee/Tiger/Horuz/Aramis

photo by Black Tiger Jr.
photo by Black Tiger Jr.

CMLL (SAT) 10/29/2016 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Acero & Fantasy b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Cancerbero, Canelo Casas Robin, Raziel b Artillero, Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor
3) Metálico, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo b Oro Jr., Pegasso, The Panther
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Kráneo, Ripper, Sam Adonis b Blue Panther, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr.
Only fall tecnicos won was by DQ (Ripper fouled Panther twice, referee only called it on the second one.)
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible b Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Terrible pulled Diamante Azul’s mask and pinned him, setting up a singles match for next week

Not a themed show, regular turnout, will air who knows when.

CMLL (SUN) 10/30/2016 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Acero, Astral, Stukita b Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther b Misterioso Jr., Morphosis, Tiger
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, Lluvia, Silueta
Rudas took 2/3. Losers were dragged to hell starting with this match.
4) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
Tecnicos took 2/3
5) Último Guerrero b Rush
UG took falls 2/3 to win again.

I haven’t seen this show, and I heard different takes on the main event. It does sound like the shows were better than normal non-Friday streaming, though not anything extraordinary. Attendance was good, much more in the cheaper seats. I don’t know if three (or more) shows in a week is a great idea, but CMLL obviously needs to come up with some other themed shows during the year. If you hype a show (or shows) as a big deal and then you run the show, people tend to show up, it’s amazing.

CMLL’s also not aired the dance numbers on these shows. The idea is probably they don’t want to get blocked on YouTube, as the Anniversary show did, but the idea doesn’t really make any sense. The Friday show was on Claro, not YouTube. It’s not like Claro is going to turn off the feed at any point, at least on purpose. The other shows do air on YouTube, but they don’t enforce copyright in real time – it’s possible the VOD will disappear later on, but CMLL could always put up edited versions later on. CMLL must be bothered by what happened with the Anniversary show that they’re being more cautious than they need to be.

(I suspect this is why CMLL is now airing the commercials as part of the video instead of shooting the screen – once they realized they’d have to figure have to some videos that way not to show what’s going on, they might as well do all of them.)

Titanes del Ring (SUN) 10/30/2016 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)]
1) Kanon, Lilith Dark, Voltar b Los Independientes, Gym Coacalco, Dragonmania
four way trios match between four schools. The team representing Gym FILL won.
2) Cerebro Maligno b Canario, Niño De Cobre, Black Dragón
Fly Warrior missed the match (didn’t make it over from IAP in time?). Cerebro beat Canario.
3) Eterno b Dinamic Black
Dinamic Black replaced Bandido. Money thrown in.
4) Araña de Plata, Atomik Star, Lady Maravilla b Fly Star, Keira, Toxin Boy
Los Insanos (Plata’s team) pulled the Kamikaze’s masks for the win.
5) Golden Magic b Metaleón, Emperador Azteca, Imposible, Chicano
6) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo DQ Cíclope (DTU), El Gio, El Junior (DTU), Ovett
Team DTU was DQed for using light tubes.
7) Freelance & Sádico b Centurion & Látigo and Arez & Impulso and Alas de Acero & Iron Kid
Freelance & Saidco beat Arez & Impulso
8) Wotan b Caifan, Black Terry, Canis Lupus
Wotan snuck in a foul on Canis Lupus. Mask/hair challenges followed.
9) Extreme Tiger b Dragón Lee, Rey Horuz, Aramis Dragon Lee vs Rey Horus vs Extreme Tiger vs Aramis | 30-10-16 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Dragon Lee replaced Rey Fenix (injury, appeared to apologize about not being there and said he’d be out 3 or 4 weeks). Lee beat Aramis with the Dragon Driver.

Not a lot of details on this one; a lot of stuff looks good, though only Eterno/Dinamic Black is mentioned as being good in the +LuchaTV recap and I bet the main event will look good when I see the highlights. Black Terry Jr. highlights = not AYM. This show had a crazy collection of indie stars and yet it looks less full than the Chairo/Lucha Memes shows. This didn’t seem pushed with anything more than the poster, which is probably not enough now.

LU 1230 (SUN) 10/30/2016 Traders Village, Houston, Texas [Prowrestling, PWPondering]
1) Paul London b Marty Martinez
2) the Mack b Garza Jr.
Crowd largely didn’t know Garza Jr.
3) Johnny Mundo b Drago [nunchuck] Lucha Underground En Vivo! - Drago Vs Johnny Mundo (Nunchuck Match) (posted by PerformedPrune2)
hyped as a Gift of the Gods match, but Mundo declared that it wasn’t on the line because the belt was being displayed in a glass case. Taya helped Mundo win, but Drago got revenge post match.

LU 300 (SUN) 10/30/2016 Traders Village, Houston, Texas [, PWPonderings]
1) Matanza b Cage [LU CHAMP]
2) Ivelisse b Taya, Saltador, Joey Ryan
Ivelisse beat Joey Ryan. Saltador is the checkboard guy associated with Paul London from the trailer.
3) Pentagón Dark b Mil Muertes [Devils Day Death Match]  (posted by PerformedPrune2)
Vampiro started off the show by announcing this as a Devil’s Day Death Match before his doctor confronted him, saying it was bad he was involved in violence. Vampiro almost choked the doctor before Mil attacked Vampiro from behind. He came back to help Pentagon win. Pentagon was swarmed by fans on the way back.

No Ultimo Ninja – LU fans got Matanza instead and were probably pretty OK with that trade. I think “Vampiro’s doctor” was Chris DeJospeh – he was definitely there, but I haven’t seen a photo of hte doctor.

Both Lucha Underground shows look well attended. I can see a few empty seats, but I can also see tons of people crowded around outside the “arena”. People on Twitter were saying they were turned away from noon show because it was full. It’s a much bigger setup than last week – maybe 800 people each show? The Houston Chronicle has photos.

Apuesta matches from Sunday:

Tonight’s Puebla show – well, the truly most important thing about tonight’s Puebla show is if you’re watching it in the US or any place else that didn’t switch clocks, it’s one hour later this week only. That’s 11pm Eastern, 10pm Central in the US. (If you live in Japan, it’s one hour later until spring. Sorry!) The Sky Team is in action, that’s normally really fun, but there literally was a CMLL show yesterday and there literally will be another CMLL show tomorrow, maybe you should get your sleep and catch up on this later. If you’re up until 1AM watching CMLL and they do a rushed 9 minute match, you will be very sad.

Anyway, the main event is the Sky Team facing La Mascara, Euforia, Gran Guerrero in a trios title match. This would be a really compelling challenge if CMLL could’ve bothered to book Niebla Roja or Ultimo Guerrero instead of La Mascara – Mascara’s not going to be bad, but the odds of a split faction team winning the trios titles is very low. The only way it happens is if CMLL suddenly decides the Sky Team needs to die. There was no suggestion of that on Friday. It still should be a fun match, maybe even a great one if they give it time and effort, but the drama isn’t what it could be.

Semimain has the Maximo, Rush and Pierroth as a trios match, so that’s going to be a waste of 20 minutes until they get onto the finish, and then maybe they’ll set up something with either those guys or the Marco, Shocker and Vangellys opposition. The Panther family teams up to face Sagrado, Misterioso, and Okumura; it’s the last match in Mexico for Misterioso & the Panther before they head off to ROH for a couple of days. Everyone’s favorite vampire Lestat rises on Halloween to team with Black Tiger & Flyer against Raziel, Cancerbero and King Jaguar. Lestat was involved in the continous King Jaguar/Black Tiger/Policeman drama before he disappeared last year, so maybe there’s a storyline coming there. The opener is Arkalis, Meyer and Zaeta Roja vs Malayo, Espiritu Maligno and Policeman. Zaeta Roja’s usual good, but the opener is not a great place to be good.

The show will air on YouTube and, one hour later than usual.

US women’s promotion SHIMMER announced Sexy Star/Dulce Sexy will appear on the 11/12 & 11/13 tapings. On a business level, this kind of makes sense to me: we’ve seen Fenix, Pentagon, Drago and Aerostar help draw crowds and draw in those might not otherwise check out typical indie promotions, there’s logic in trying the same thing with Sexy Star to see if it’ll work with her. SHIMMER may make money off photos and such, regardless of what she adds in the ring – and if it doesn’t work, that’s the life of an indie promoter, you take the best gambles you can and sometimes they don’t work. On a personal level, I laughed out loud when I saw this announcement, just thinking about how badly she may get exposed on this show, and then was borderline offended that the first luchadora was Sexy Star – not the people who’ve had a history of great matches, not younger people who could gain a lot from the experience, but someone who I watched for years and years without ever seeing a great match out of her. Sexy Star is on Lucha Underground, so a fanbase (and likely even a programming department) largely oblivious to Mexican wrestling might actually know her and it’s sound business decision, but it’s so unjust at the same time.

(This is, in a nut shell, the usual ROH/FM complaint too: I want all the international opportunities to the people who work hard and have good matches. I know that it never going to be that way, but not enough to stop getting annoyed when it doesn’t.)

As much as I disliked the last episode, Sexy Star is probably the biggest lucha triumph of the Lucha Underground creative crew. They’ve definitely helped guys like Pentagon, but half the battle with those guys was just getting them out there where people could see what they do. Sexy Star’s the opposite, she would’ve been exposed if she was thrown out there with no support, and needed some storytelling and good match making to cover up for her weaknesses. Sexy Star has her fans, and would not if LU hadn’t done well for her. Though, I think we’re going to get a measurement of exactly how well they’ve done with her rather soon.

RIOT is running a show on 11/19 in Arena Femenil de Monterrey. Card so far:
1) Ultimo Ninja vs Septimo Dragon
2) Erik Ortiz vs Kamikaze
3) Kratoz vs Impulso
4) Dralion vs Alberto Rios
5) Larry Miranda & Dulce Kanela vs Hooligan Byron & Kaientai
6) Belial & Arez vs Drastick Boy & Ronnie Mendoza

GALLI has some Facebook video of their show last night with Laredo Kid.

Volador, Flamita and Negro Casas are among those advertised for the 11/16 DTU show in Celaya.

A fan held video of Dr. Wagner Jr. vs LA Park from the 2008 Anniversary show was posted to YouTube. It’s a low quality video, but it’s of one of an infamously lost match. Wagner & Park were told not to do their usual brawling match, did it anyway, and it would get them banned from CMLL until their return late last year. (Park was banned immediately, Wagner was around a few more months.) CMLL never aired the match and would not let anyone air the match, though +LuchaTV was able to air highlights.

Black Terry Jr. posted photos of Rey Horuz vs Dragon Lee vs Extreme Tiger vs Aramis.

+LuchaTV has interviews with Mascara de Bronce and new Universal champion Valiente.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

LA Park’s hand prints were added to Plaza Galerias.

A video interview with Electrico.


CMLL (SAT) 11/05/2016 Arena Coliseo
1) Flyer, Leono, Sensei vs Artillero, Grako, Inquisidor
2) Princesa Sugehit, Sanely, Skadi vs La Seductora, Metálica, Yeska
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Rey Cometa vs Hechicero, Ripper, Vangellys
4) Diamante Azul vs Terrible
5) Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Main event looks like a lot of fun! Drone finds a way to get booked. And yet another women’s match.

Yeska (sometimes Yesca) was part of a batch of young women who debuted in late 2008 and early 2009, after the CMLL women’s division got going again. Zeuxis & Lluvia eventually stuck as full timers. Others, like Crazy Star, Estrella Magica and Star Fire, just disappeared after a time and have wrestled a bit on the indie scene. Yeska stopped being used in CMLL in 2010 and just vanished for four years – maybe she was starting a family or injured or just not interested in wrestling. She never had any success in CMLL and didn’t show improvement, so that would’ve made sense. Her name shows up in 2014 a couple times, and then returns for a handful match of matches this year. Two of those matches are with Reina Isis on Toryumon shows, so this is probably an Arkangel student – his name’s coming before as recruiting indie women when REINA needed people.

Yeska might only be getting booked because Isis is still in Japan and CMLL needed another body. But that match isn’t going to be any good with or without here, and there are dozen of men who don’t seem to be getting booked who could have a better match. There’s also a bunch of women who could probably get that same spot and do well with it – perhaps Yeska has improved leaps and bounds after not wrestling for years, but there are people Metalica was/is working with on the indies who I’d bet on. (Not just a young person – a vet who knows what they’re doing could’ve been helpful, there are some very green people in that match.) It could also be that Yeska’s not getting paid very much for this date – or is losing money on it, because paying for training classes is part of the deal – and people who are actually good aren’t going to take that deal. That’s a bigger problem with the CMLL set up.

Terrible hasn’t done anything remarkable in years at this point, except occasionally powerbomb Titan very hard, but Azul beating him still would feel wrong.

CMLL (SUN) 11/06/2016 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Lluvia vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

A show. With a women’s match, because what show doesn’t have a women’s match. There’s a tercera that used to be here but maybe not again. I miss Puma.

CMLL (SUN) 11/06/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Micro vs Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Black Sugar & Capitán Cobra vs Destello & Quca
3) El Yaqui & Reycko vs Carlo Roggi & Mr. Apolo
4) León Blanco, Neutrón, Smaker vs Espectrúm, Exterminador, Rey Trueno
5) Frezzer, Gallo, Omar Brunetti vs Pitbull I, Pitbull II, Sádico

First appearances for the Pitbulls since June 2015. They were feuding with Exterminador & Malefico, and then just disappeared. Might have been one of the programming changes.

FantasticaMania, CMLL in ROH, Elite, DTU

ELITE (FRI) 10/28/2016 Domo del Deportivo Plan Sexenal, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo, SuperLuchas]
1) Belial & Impulso b Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Mr. Leo
Ciclon Ramirez replaced Hijo del Pantera
2) Emperador Azteca & Heddi Karaoui b Imposible & Metaleón
3) Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Karonte Jr. b El Bandido, Golden Magic, Zumbi
money thrown in
4) Chicano (Puerto Rico) & Mr. 450 COR Cibernético & Taurus (ex-AAA)
Mr. 450 pinned Taurus and Cibernetico got counted out (and blamed the ref for counting too fast.) The Puerto Ricians are going as “Los Ilegals” – Chicano was the masked El Ilegal in AAA.
5) LA Park b Xtreme Tiger [Liga Elite]
6) Rey Escorpión b Carístico [Liga Elite]
Escorpion had his face painted up as if he was on the Dia de Muertos shows and won with the Aguijon Mortal. Escorpion wants a title match and Caristico accepted backstage.

Rey Escorpion picked up the clean win on Caristico a few weeks back and again here; something’s clearly coming, it’s just a matter of Elite getting there. People who’ve watched the show said the third match is really good. Attendance did not look good for this show.

Bandido, Golden Magic and Zumbi defeated Cibernetico, Sharlie Rockstar, and Heddi Karaoui on an Elite show in Cuernavaca on Thursday. It was a DQ win; Cibernetico fouled Bandido, then fouled the referee. Cibernetico seem to be attacking the referee in all his matches. Bandido’s brother Magia Blanca worked in the undercard; he hasn’t shown up on Elite tapings, but perhaps he’s also left CMLL.

DTU (FRI) 10/28/2016 Arena Neza [+LuchaTV, DTU, Estrellas del Ring, Kronosport]
1) Erwin & Irving b Masizito & Porrito
2) Diva Salvaje, El Exótico, Yuriko b Moria, Niño De Cobre, Ovett
Ovett replaced Lokillo
3) Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis b Lady Maravilla & Zuzu Divine
4) Charly Madrid & Oscar Sevilla b Hormiga & Neza Kid and Mike Segura & Sádico
money thrown in
5) Gallego & Mr. Cóndor DQ Jimmy & Kevin
The referee helped the Diabolicos beat the Nerds. They made hair match challenges for DTU’s 9th Anniversary.
6) Aero Boy & Drastik Boy b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Pólvora
Aero Boy & Drastick Boy beat the CMLL team in a good match.
7) El Gio & El Junior b Halloween & X-Fly and Cíclope & Toxico
Diva Salvaje & Yuriko challenged Ciclope and Ovett after the main event.

I don’t believe DTU has announced when/where their 9th Anniversary show is happening in December, but they’ve obviously got a card in mind for it; they’ve gone from directionless to a lot of matches being hinted at. (That probably needs to end up on a streaming service.)

Meanwhile in Japan, Masashi Takeda defeated Kenji Fukimoto to keep the main DTU championship. That title has been renamed the DTU World Championship after being defended in Japan. Miedo Extremo & Violento Jack lost a title challenge for the KFC Tag Team Championships, and I’m sure we all hope those titles are sanctioned by the chicken fast food place.

NJPW released the CMLL list of wrestlers for the FantasticaMania tour at intermission of their show this morning. (Fuego & Taguchi lost on that show, falling in the semifinals of the tag tournament.) The CMLL 16 luchadors going are:

Tecnicos: Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr., Máximo Sexy, Dragón Lee, Titán, Stuka Jr., Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr.

Rudos: Último Guerrero, Euforia, Ephesto, Cavernario, Hechicero, Okumura, Raziel

Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., Ephesto and Raziel are all debuting, with Panther Jr. coming one year after his brother and Soberano being on the same tour as his father. The NJPW video still does not list the extra date CMLL mentioned, which makes me think that maybe a show just got canceled.

FantasticaMania usually features a lot of CMLL title matches, especially on the Tokyo shows. Atlantis, Volador, Maximo, Dragon Lee, and Ultimo Guerrero are all current singles champions, and Hechicero would be one too if he wins on Tuesday. (The timing of when CMLL would’ve said OK to the list of people and when this title match was announced match up interestingly.) I’d still bet that Volador versus Kushida or whoever is junior champ at that time closes out the tour, but maybe there’d be another Volador singles match earlier. Kamaitachi turning back up to face Dragon Lee seems like a possibility. Ultimo Guerrero and Cavernario having big matches seem pretty likely too. There’s no team title being carried to Japan, but there’s still time for Raziel & Okumura to suddenly challenge the Panther & Guerrero Maya or something.

The next step is finding out those matches, but that’s a while away – we usually don’t get them until a couple weeks before the tour, in early January.

Cancerbero isn’t going to Japan with his long time partner, but he did win a multi-activity competition over Flyer, Tiger, Robin, Forastero, Raziel and Soberano. They were all doing an appearance at the Granja Las Americas theme park, climbing rock walls and shooting paint guns and riding in cars as part of a marketing tie up. No video, but there are photos. Cancerbero beat out Soberano and Flyer for first overall.

Hechicero, Okumura and Ultimo Guerrero were involved in a nearly as goofy competition: the ROH six man tournament. They wrestled two matches on Saturday’s Ring of Honor taping in Maryland: they defeated Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian and Kamaitachi in the quarterfinals (in the first week of TV), and lost to the Kingdom in the semifinals (week three or four.) I’m not sure when these episodes start airing. It sounds like Team CMLL did well, and got CMLL chants after their loss. I can’t come up with a time when people have actually chanted CMLL in Mexico, so this seems to be going well.

CMLL didn’t post full results for Coliseo, so we’ll handle that later.  CMLL’s show tonight, at 7pm ET, has Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero and will be streamed on YouTube.


The Lucha Underground shows in Houston are going on as I’m pecking away at this. There first show was so full that there were people turned away, and the second show was the busier show last week. (Get to to Tamale festival early if you’re going in San Diego.)

Lucha Underground posted a bonus clip Sunday afternoon, setting up a Dr. Wagner Jr. versus Son of Havoc match for this week an d teasing Famous B managing more people.

AAA put up this week’s TV show. Pentagon did end up working in Tijuana instead of the TV taping, where he was the one who took the loss in the Texano/Mesias/Pentagon three way tittle match. Texano snuck in a foul and small packaged him.

Cara Lucha announced they’ll start a tournament to crown their first ever Cruiserwieght champion on their 11/19 show. The poster actually implies the name of the title is The Best, and Cara Lucha The Best Championship would be a more amusing name.

Lucha Memes indicated they’d be running Arena Aficion in a few months.

Powerbomb.TV, a soon to open wrestling VOD service, announced their service will include RIOT shows from Monterrey.

Black Terry Jr. posted photos from a Saturday show in Villa del Carbon.

Wrestling with Words rewatches the Villanos versus Psycho Circus.

The guitarist from Tool performed in a Pentagon Jr. outfit.

Mistico’s been hanging around the Mexico F1 race all weekend.

Super Fly says he won’t rest until he retires Aerostar; he will never sleep again.

10/28 AAA TV Results (Tlalnepantla)


AAA TV (FRI) 10/28/2016 Lienzo Charro de Los Reyes Ixtacala, Tlalnepantla, Estado de México [AAA]
1) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache COR Mamba, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
OGT watched the match from ringside, distracted Faby and Tirantes quickly counted her out.
2) Dave The Clown, Parka Negra, Súper Fly b Aerostar, Máscara De Bronce, Venum
The debuting Mascara de Bronce (Gotita de Plata) was the mystery luchador and Venum did appear. Didn’t help – Super Fly powerbombed Aerostar thru a table as part of his victory.
3) Hijo del Fantasma b Drago, Angélico [AAA CRUISER]
Drago replaced Jack Evans. The tecnicos asked for this to be made a cruiserweight title match. Fantasma agreed. They used elimination rules this time, with Angelico beat Dragon and Fantasma beating Fantasma to keep the title. Sixth defense.
4) Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin b Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
Tirantes helped OGT win and officially is part of the group. Zorro offered them a title match.
5) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b Daga & Joe Lider and Damián 666 & Pagano
Changed from a three way trios to a three way tag (Psycho/Wagner moved to the main event, Pentagon doubled booked in Tijuana.) Rudos just all teamed up and beat up the Perros. The traitor clowns got the win.
6) Psycho Clown NC Dr. Wagner Jr.
no finish when Pagano, Murder, Monster and Damian ran in, and Aerostar, Angelico, Daga and Lider made the save. Daga spoke out against the rudos. The TripleMania challenges were brought up again.

Air Date: a good question! This has grown from a one taping show to maybe a two taping one. It’ll definitely start 11/05 and it may be 11/12 (which would bump everything else a week back.)

I mentioned false advertising with Fenix on TripleMania. AAA appears to have done the same here, listing Pentagon in the main event and not telling people he was going elsewhere even as they were sending him to Pentagon. That is no bueno but they don’t seem to be changing it.

As a maybe make up, AAA did Psycho/Wagner – but then didn’t do a finish. This show also had two evil referee finishes and essentially a 4 on 2 handicap match. That can’t have been too fun to watch. In WWE, they might counterbalance this by doing a dark match 5v5 match with everyone in the main event, and Psycho beating Damian or whatever after a few minutes. That’s not how people see wrestling in Mexico, but it’d make for a more enjoyable show. All I can think of is, even before seeing a moment of the card, there’s only two matches which have a chance of being watchable and the rest of looks likes like stuff I’ll want to endure for as little time as possible. This needed a better balance between getting heat on the heels and having actual watchable TV.

We know Gotita de Plata is Mascara de Bronce because Gotita posted a photo of Mascara de Bronce on his Instagram, wrote about it being a new chapter in his career, and then attempted to change his Instagram name to Mascara de Bronce. (As of this writing, he has it as “Mascara de Bromce AAA”; it’s hard out there for a flying goat.) It’s nice to see him get a shot and I like what we can see of the costume, but the name is a little too generic for my tastes.

Aerostar versus Super Fly seems to be on once again. I downplayed the chances of the career vs career matches they were hyping, and you’ll end up right most of the time if you’re cynical about AAA midcard feuds, but it does come off as if they’re going somewhere with this. It should be good.

Random title defenses on AAA shows are good. The next title defense won’t be random; we already knew there was a trios title match between the Xinetez and OGT next Friday in Aguascalientes. Everything’s going OGT’s way – sometimes it means they’re about to stumble, but I’m more confident in them this time.

I bet I’m going to get so annoyed when Tirantes counts out Faby even though Mary and/or Apache are standing in the ring, but it’s an evil referee so it doesn’t have to make any sense. AAA leaning back heavily into the evil referee thing is annoying as a viewer. It’s seems solely part of the the OGT/Apaches/Xinetes storyline (which seems separate from everything else, probably because it’s being produced by those involved), so Tirantes will be normal in the rest of them, but adding the Xinetez now means it’s happening on a third of the card.

Daylight Savings Time, Valiente champion, Rey Fenix talks about AAA

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL
photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

AN IMPORTANT THING: Daylight Savings Time starts Sunday morning in Mexico. It’s a week later in the United States. ALL MEXICO STREAMS WILL BE AN HOUR LATER NEXT WEEK. I forgot about this until Albert pointed it out. CMLL Sunday’s show will start at 6pm CT, Puebla will come on at 10pm CT, Tuesday’s show will be at 8:30pm CT, Friday’s show at 9:30pm – all an hour later. I’m going to have to say this about 50 times in the next week but maybe some people will read this?

CMLL (FRI) 10/28/2016 Arena México [+LuchaTV, CMLL, ESTO, MedioTiempo, Sipse]
1) Apocalipsis & Metálico b Bengala & Flyer
Rudos took 2/3
2) Disturbio, Okumura, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Soberano Jr.
Rudos took 1/3
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Sanely DQ Amapola, Dalys, Metálica
straight falls, with Marcela being KOed after an illegal choke to cause the DQ. Marcela was stretchered out (though it seemed like a worked injury) and gets a title shot out of this. Dalys was the evil god thru the night (along with Valiente and Volador.) Starting with this match, the losers were all taken to hell.
4) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
tecnicos took 2/3
5) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
Rush snuck in a foul on UG.
6) Valiente b Volador Jr. [CMLL Universal, final]
Seconds were Soberano and Mephisto (Valiente, also back from Hell rather quick.) Valiente took falls 1/3, the last with two Valiente Busters to win.

Valiente said he couldn’t come up with the words to describe what he felt; he seems as surprised by the outcome as everyone else. Just three years ago, CMLL saw Valiente as not being as important Vangellys in the final of that year’s En Busca de un Idolo tournament. Vangellys is currently the fourth man in a three man group. Valiente won the national welterweight title when CMLL wanted to move him up to the midcard. Since then, he’s lost thirteen straight singles title matches, including one just a month ago. There’s overarching story you can tell, about a guy who quit lucha for years because he was going nowhere, then came back to work himself from the very bottom of CMLL to the very top in a place (and a country) where that is extremely difficult to do. However, the microstory is how CMLL used him just three days before this, as a guy who at best comes close to winning but always ends up losing at the end, and with fans mostly accepting it rather than getting fired up about. (Hechicero cheating didn’t seem to get people fired up for Valiente, it just came and went.) If CMLL is committed to make Valiente a top guy, with a specific destination in mind, then this was a great way to destroy those old impressions of Valiente and make people give him another chance to start off that new role. If Valiente continues in his usual near top role, then this is just a waste of tournament and a waste of booking an upset winner. Yes, you’ll have taught people that upsets can happen but, unless there’s strong follow up, you’ll have taught people that it doesn’t matter all that much.

The bitter part is, new guys strongly put in top positions is what we’re always asking out of major lucha libre promotions, this is CMLL doing that, and we’re still unhappy because it’s not the right guy (and they did so by beating a more deserving guy.) I’m not sure what dark horse in the field would’ve been a good upset winner. People would’ve been happy for Rey Cometa winning, but it’s take even more for the fans (and CMLL itself) to see Cometa as a top guy. I would’ve liked Dragon Rojo better, because he’s put in the work in improving his wrestling and his character, but I doubt it would’ve been a generally popular pick. Otherwise, it was just a group of guys who are not very good or would gain only little by an upset run like this – there wasn’t a young guy like Barbaro Cavernario or Titan or even a Rey Escorpion were a series of upset wins would represent a big change.

Three years ago, Valiente would probably have been that guy to represent a big change. He hasn’t been successful as a singles wrestler, but he’s been a trios champion for two of the last three years. He’s best suited for that smaller role, and has slipped in other areas as he’s grown older. His wrestling isn’t as varied and interesting as it used to be. He’s the same OK promo he’s always been. Valiente’s costuming has become polarizing; most people would say it’s for the worst, but he obviously thinks it’s much better. The only major change from the guy who wasn’t considered vital enough to be Vangellys to the guy who beat Volador is his physique, turning into a small ball of muscle. Valiente doesn’t seem to use that muscle in any significant way during his matches – he’s only doing a stripped down version of the same offense he’s always done – but he clearly takes great pride in it and it certainly seems CMLL feels the same. It was hard not to notice both Mephisto and Sobreano wearing Omega Team track pants while seconding the guys in the main event. That same logo has been on Valiente’s gear for the last couple of years. I’m not sure if they have a sponsorship deal with CMLL itself or just the individual wrestlers, but the result of the main seemed like an endorsement of their supplement/steroids products above anything else.

Volador losing can be chalked up to CMLL’s usual bit of spreading all the big wins around and feeling he just got one. I’m skeptical that’s the best way to make a star. Attendance seemed down this year compared to past Dia de Muertos shows.

LuchaWorld has a translation of +LuchaTV’s interview with Rey Fenix. There’s a lot in there, and you should read or watch the whole thing. Some of the same stories were told on the Highspots interview with Fenix a month or so back too, so you may want to check that out.

The immediate most important part of the interview is Rey Fenix says he separated his shoulder in the CaraLucha match, but is expecting to be back by 11/18 for the Guadalajara Muchas Luchas show and making every date about that. He does not sound too concerned about the injury long term, but is taking care to rest until then.

It’s clear he won’t be going back to AAA when he’s done. Fenix seems to have had issue with AAA with how he was being used, how much he was being paid and how the wrestlers are treated, but the actual breaking point was when he decided to move to San Diego. Fenix did tell AAA, and AAA was angry with him for not telling them and generally moving. The way Fenix told it, AAA’s both sort of cut him off from working for them and threatened him with legal action for working anywhere else. Fenix says he was willing to work both the Veracruz and TripleMania shows, called to ask for travel info, and was never sent plane tickets for either. He says the Roldans would only take to him for a few minutes to allow him to explain what he was doing, but at the same time have gone to lucha libre commissions to try and get Rey Fenix blocked from wrestling (because AAA owns the Fenix name.) Rey Fenix notes he may eventually be forced to change his name yet again.

Rey Fenix does not know where this will leave him with Lucha Underground. He’s hoping to have a meeting with the LU people to discuss things soon. Rey Fenix loves Lucha Underground and very much wants to keep working there, but not if he has to go back to AAA. He’s rather just keep doing the indie traveling he’s doing rather than go back to AAA under any circumstances.

AAA always has their own side to these stories, and rarely actually tells them. It’s possibly, maybe even likely there’s more going on here than Fenix wants to talk about – money is usually the source of problems, but no one in lucha likes to talk about money in public (or much in private.) In a small way, I can feel for AAA here. If one of your employees decides to relocate out of the country without telling you, that’s a bit rude (and in a lot of other industries, maybe grounds to let someone go.) But, if it’s gone down the way Fenix says, and AAA just both cut Fenix off and stopped him from working anywhere else, then that’s crazy. You’ve got to work with people. It sticks out that AAA seems to definitely have worked with Taya in what seems to be same situation. Maybe Taya gave more of a heads up on her move, and Taya’s earned a lifetime of points with AAA for her work (and they’re not going to break ties with her while booking Mundo), but Fenix going forward seems to be as valuable as Taya is, except AAA doesn’t seem to value the relationships the same. Even a part time Fenix is a big help for a promotion short on stars, and AAA’s is currently willing to fly in lots of other people from the US because they need the star power. Maybe a better comparison is Hernandez, who had an ugly break up with Lucha Underground, and still got brought back to be the third or fourth most important guy in Team Trump. AAA got over whatever issues they had there to bring in a guy in a much less important role than Fenix. Flying someone out of the US is an added cost, maybe one not easy for AAA to afford, but there seems to be a larger statement being made about staying in line with AAA or else that’s being made.

Fenix isn’t the first person to complain about the working conditions in AAA. He probably won’t be the last. AAA showcases the giant buses they use take people to TV tapings, but the spot shows are a much less glamorous life. AAA has the hardest schedule of any major league promotion. So many small shows in random locations and rough situations. CMLL has some of that too, but they also have a handful of regular weekly stops; it’s probably not fun to be a bus for a long time to go to Guadalajara, but you know the bus, you know the venue, you probably know the area around the venue, there’s a routine to it. An AAA luchador can go to any city in Mexico on any day of the week in whatever vehicle they happen to have available to send them at that point in time. It’s not even the US indies, where at least you might have the privacy/security of your own car, it’s more public/group transport. You’ve got have to a definite adventurous spirit to want to do it, and I’m sure it seems a lot less attractive once you start comparing it to flying into cities in the US. (When someone eventually writes about the effects of LU, this is going to be one of them – if that show never happens, then those guys never get booked in the US, and they never see the differences between Mexico and US wrestling conditions for themselves.)

If Fenix is telling the truth, that means AAA absolutely and shamelessly advertised someone to appear at TripleMania that they had no intention of actually wrestling at the show. If lucha libre was a commissioned sport, someone probably would be looking into those statements.

Sexy Star quit AAA in February. She hasn’t missed a Lucha Underground taping, and, at least in front of the crowd, there’s been no indication she’s in trouble with Lucha Underground or will be written out of the company. If anything, the people who write LU have specifically gone the other way, making it clear she’s still very valued to them no matter what happened with her and AAA. Jack Evans worked LU shows last weekend despite being already fired from AAA. I suspect Fenix will have a conversation with Lucha Underground people next week when they’re in San Diego, and he’ll be back in Lucha Underground for Season 4 this year. It seems pretty likely, and Konnan’s said as much, that AAA’s power in Lucha Underground has been reduced to where they can no longer ban AAA wrestlers who are no longer AAA wrestlers. They have money in LU so they have influence, but the impression I get is if the other people want someone to stay enough, they will stay. Fenix is a key part of Lucha Underground for the first three season and I’d suspect he’ll stay that way as long as he’s under contract to them.

My bigger concern is is how this affects everyone else. If AAA truly is trying to block Fenix from working in places in Mexico, then it stands to reason they’d try to force that elsewhere where they have leverage, and the only leverage they really have is taking away Pentagon. I imagine Angelico & Jack will still work their tag stuff even while Jack’s gone from AAA, and I’d imagine Pentagon & Fenix would keep wanting taking their match and their tag stuff around too. Fenix lets slip that he’s booked for PWG in December, and I’ve got a very strong suspicion it’s going to be a follow up to the Fenix/Pentagon versus Young Bucks match from BOLA weekend. Pentagon makes good money working PWG, he makes good money working AAW with Fenix, if AAA tries to block him from working those sorts of places, it’s going to force Pentagon to make his own choice. I don’t think AAA wants it to come to that. I’m sure they want some revenge on Fenix in their heart, but they ought to be thinking with their head and back off before they make it worse.

CMLL’s back in Arena Coliseo tonight – or maybe it already happened, given the pace I’m going. The scheduled main event is Shocker, Terrible and Rey Bucanero versus Stuka, Diamante Azul and Valiente. That sounds not great. CMLL’s preview doesn’t mention Valiente coming is a Universal champ, which make me think it was written Friday and they hadn’t been told Valiente was winning. Drone makes another appearance in the semimain.

A show in Chilpancingo is advertising Dragon Lee & local Rey Nocturno versus Xtreme Tiger & Bestia 666. Sounds fun. An indie show in Mexico City has Wotan vs Impulso vs Obscuro, and seems like the kind of thing that might show up on YouTube. There’s a GDR free show at Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera using CMLL & Elite wrestlers, with Cibernetico & La Mascara versus Pierroth & Rush. There’s no way that will be good, but the Star Jr. & Bandido vs Cuatrero & Sanson match probably will be.

Sunday’s CMLL show will air live on CMLL’s stream as part of the Dia de Muertos run of shows. The main event is Ultimo Guerrero versus Rush, which just aired weeks ago on the same CMLL stream. CMLL strongly believes different audiences go to different days of the week and so they can run the same matches on different days without burning people out. They either haven’t realized it’s the same audience watching all these streams, or they just aren’t bothered by that part so much.  The only thing which seems safely worth seeking out is the segunda with Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., the Panther versus Misterioso, Morphosis and Tiger.

Sunday has the Titanes del Ring loaded show in Arena Naucalpan. Rey Fenix will not be on it; Laredo Kid replaced him in Queretaro, so maybe that’s the plan here too. I don’t know if this will be taped by AYM (kind of doubt it), but that’s another one where handhelds will probably turn up.

Sunday also has a Demasiado versus Maximo hair match in Xalapa. And Lucha Underground runs in Houston.Misterioso’s 11/03 Ring of Honor match is a four way match with Hangman Page, Lio Rush and Sho Tanaka (Raijin). That’s going to be weird. The Panther’s match is not yet announced. Ultimo Guerrero, Hechicero and Okumura are in ROH tonight. Even in the airport, Ultimo Guerrero wears that bandage.

Taya says she’s heading back to Japan in three weeks, I think. Haven’t seen anything specific announced.

The Rey Mysterio museum in Tokyo is being kept open an extra week due to high levels of interest.

The Crash says Rey Mysterio and Jeff Hardy will be in their 10/26 main event. Aeroboy is also advertised for the show. The Crash is using big names and already taping (and sometimes streaming) their shows; they should be an obvious get for one of the hopeful streaming networks.

Caristico and Rey Fenix are half of a Lucha Libre Boom main event on 12/08. Caristico & Rey Fenix were supposed to be tag partners in AAA in one of the many 2014-2015 storylines that were just dropped a third of the way thru.


CMLL (FRI) 11/04/2016 Arena México
1) Astral & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, Pegasso vs Okumura, Pólvora, Virus
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible
4) Dalys © vs Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
sixth defense
5) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]

Title matches probably should be higher up. CMLL announced this title match during the show to the live crowd; you’d also think they’d want to have Marcela earn the show in a more impressive way than being choked almost to death. It’s just an odd way to set up a title match.

Main event is a relevos increibles because CMLL’s insistent on Rush being a tecnico even though they never explain it and no one else sees him as a tecnico. Valiente celebrates his big win by not even being booked, though Volador versus Rush should be entertaining. The Hijos del Infierno are together for a second straight week, so maybe there’s something coming up with them. Rey Cometa was taken off shows this week, but perhaps he’ll be back next week. (The women being reduced to a title match means the usually good men’s tercera is back this week, and hopefully for more than just one week.) Stukita and Mercurio are in the opener; Mercurio hasn’t been around since August. Nice to get him back.

great match roundup, week of 2016-10-01

Still three weeks behind! Catching up is really not working. I didn’t figure on watching baseball so much, I think. Next week should finish quicker. I already finished AAA’s show for next week and did LU & Claro relatively on time. I have this urge to add CMLL Retro to the rotation and yet not CMLL Guadalajara, and I can’t explain why, and I probably need help.

I’m never going to watch all the indie stuff I want; I’m no longer putting FILL ciberneticos on the list (and may skip the ones I have) unless someone tells me I must watch one, because I can’t watch those without trying to figure out who everyone is, and it turns into a giant sink. The matches can be be fun, and are really useful for discovering unheralded people, but I can watch two or three in the same time. And I don’t have nearly enough watching video time. I haven’t even watched Trauma/Canis Lupus yet, why are you reading my weak lucha takes. It’s November on Tuesday and the fear of never watching everything I want to from this year is strong. At least I’m watching some good stuff.

Recommended matches for the week

rating matches TV Show taped
great Prince Puma vs Matanza © [LU CHAMP] Lucha Underground: 2016-10-05 2016-03-20
great Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger CMLL on 2016-10-07 2016-10-07
great Volador Jr. © vs Cavernario for the NWA World Welterweight Championship CMLL on 2016-10-07 2016-10-07

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CMLL (Dia de Muertos), AAA and Elite tapings tonight, LU S4 date, Castillo del Terror

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (TUE) 10/25/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Capitán Cobra & El Yaqui b Évola & Mr. Apolo
Tecnicos took 2/3. Yaqui beats Evola before their hair match on Sunday.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Maléfico, Nitro b Mágico, Robin, Soberano Jr.
Rudos toko 1/3.
3) Dalys, Metálica, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Silueta
Rudas took 2/3.
4) Dragón Rojo Jr. © b Blue Panther [CMLL MIDDLE]
Dragon Rojo took falls 2/3 to keep the title, the last with the reverse Gori stretch. 16th defense.
5) Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero DQ Dragón Lee, Máximo Sexy,Rush
Rudos took 1/3, the last when Rush was DQed for excessive violence/ref attack. Shocker wants a hair match with Rush, but Rush reminded Shocker that he already won that one and only offered a singles match.

That singles match is already set for next week. The Blue Panther title match will air on the Guadalajara stream on Saturday night at 10:30pm Central Time.

AAA F1 (THU) 10/27/2016 Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, Iztacalco, Distrito Federal [AAA]
1) Atomic Boy, Dr. Wagner Jr., Ricky Marvin b Dave The Clown, Parka Negra, Súper Fly
2) Argenis, Bengala, La Parka b Averno, Chessman, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.

AAA hyped a tie up with the Mexico F1 race earlier in the year, and ran a lucha libre training demonstration and a short show for the teams, which seemed to be well received. I’m not sure I have the results correct; this was more about interacting with the people anyway. The crew from Japan was just arriving back in Mexico when this was taking place, so this was an entirely different group. (It also might have been the reason Fantasma wasn’t originally scheduled for Star Battle, because he’d been one of the faces of this cross promotion.) I’ve been questioning if AAA had enough bodies to run two shows, but they actually had three separate crews last night if you include the group working a show in Puebla.

Today’s CMLL show begins the week long celebration of Dia de Muertos. Arena Mexico will be dressed up as the underworld, edecanes and luchadors will perform in different costumes and paint, and the losers of the bigger matches will be dragged to hell – or a side entrance to the back. Matches may end up being a bit shorter, but it’s an entertaining change for a week.

The big match tonight is Volador versus Valiente in this year’s Universal Championship final. Volador is the heavy favorite, but Valiente’s been an underdog in every match of this tournament and has won every match of this tournament so far. The case for Volador winning is pretty simple: he’s CMLL’s top tecnico, he’s probably their luchador of the year, he’s not won this tournament, it’ll mean much more if Volador wins tonight.

It’s tougher to make the case for Valiente, but there are scenarios where it makes sense for him to win. CMLL Informa seems to tease the end of the Sky Team any time more than one of them are on the show, and Valiente beating Volador could upset the balance of the trio. Valiente’s a guy in a lot of main events but not seen as a main eventer, and this could give him the extra boost he’s missing. CMLL has set the bar at a significant mask match being on the line every September, doesn’t have many masks of importance to still put on the line, and could use this make Valiente’s mask more significant a longer term plan of putting him on the Anniversary match next year. Valiente’s heavily into bodybuilding, CMLL likes that, and Valiente winning would obviously encourage more of their luchadors to focus harder on it.

I can make that case – but I don’t really believe it. Universal wins either have set up that year’s Anniversary match or being used as rewards for top guys, and Volador is a top guy. I’d be surprised if he lost tonight, and I’d be nearly as surprised if this started a break up with the Sky Team in the short term.

There’s not anything as pivotal on the rest of the show, but there does seem to be a direction with some of the other other matches. The semimain has Euforia, Niebla Roja and Ultimo Guerrero facing the newest combination of Los Ingobernables, Pierroth, Rush and La Mascara. The actual Rush/La Mascara breakup started over Pierroth being put in Los Ingobernables and the ongoing storyline has been Mistico & Dragon Lee not liking Rush siding with La Mascara. We don’t know how Pierroth feels about all of this, or how they feel about Pierroth. Yes, Pierroth is a key luchador on the night hell comes to CMLL. It also might not go anywhere; I have a sneaking suspicion Rush won’t be around next Friday.

(The Guerreros and Ingobernables are opposite sides of this match, then teaming on Monday in Puebla for the trios titles. Day to day CMLL consistency is poor.)

Dragon Lee, Caristico and Mistico team up in the fourth match to take on Mephisto, Ephesto and Luciferno, in what should be a showcase for the tecnicos. Caristico is once again double booked with Elite, but they’re running Plan Sexenal. Google Maps says it’s about 25 minute drive. I’ve riden by both in a taxi and that sounds about right; Carisitco should not even need his super powers to make the Elite main event this time around.

The tercera is Marcela, Estrellita and Sanely against Metalica, Amapola and Dalys, in a rematch from last week. That appears to be setting up a Marcela/Dalys title match, maybe next week. The second match is Oro, Soberano and Pegasso against Disturbio, Okumura and Virus; Okumura is off to ROH after the show.

Bengala & Flyer and Metalico & Apocalipsis open the show. Apocalipsis is not any good, and hasn’t been on a Friday night show since May 16, 2014. CMLL’s next major show is probably the New Year’s Day show, which has lately been the mask loss farewell to an opening match wrestler. This is about the time of year where that program starts. It might not be Apocalipsis, I’m really hoping it’s not Apocalipsis, (it might be Bengala???), but a screw finish to the opener might actually mean something.

CultIcon also previews this show. The show will air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports as normal on Friday nights. The show will also air on NJPW World, so there will be a clean version out there somewhere. I will not be watching this live, but will probably RT things in a way to confused people into believing I’m actually paying attention. (Maybe I’ll see the main event if this show goes longer than the baseball game.)

It’s a triple taping night. A slightly jet lagged AAA will be in Tlalnepantla tonight to tape one week of TV. The scheduled main event is Psycho Circus (Psycho, Murder, Monster) versus Perros del Mal (Daga, Lider, Pentagon) versus rudos Damian, Wagner and Pagano. There’s a couple problems there: Monster and Murder aren’t friends with Psycho anymore, and Pentagon is also advertised in the main event of the AAA show in Tijuana. Based on recent history, AAA will probably send Villano IV to Tijuana to replace him and run the TV match as scheduled (which means Psycho gets turned on early on but runs back in late.) I’d prefer just turning it into a crazy 5v5 match if they can figure out one more tecnico.

It’s a very card subject to change night. The semimain looks safe: Cuervo, Scoria and Zorro face Averno, Chessman and Ricky Marvin in a preview of a trios title match next week. The tercera was scheduled to a Hijo del Fantasma vs Jack Evans vs Angelico three way match, but no one’s expecting Jack to be there. It’ll probably be a singles match; AAA hasn’t listed a change.

The second match is listed as Dave the Clown, Parka Negra and Super Fly versus Aerostar, Venum and a mystery person. I’ve accidentally turned Venum into a meme in my head. Back on September 14, Venum posted a vague thing on instagram that could be read as him moving on from AAA, or coming back to AAA, or getting a new mask, or just being vaguely inspiring because he’s in his twenties on instagram and that is apparently what you do. Venum’s been listed on spot shows, but nothing where results have turned up, and he hasn’t posted since then. Venum’s tag partner left, various other people have left, and yet I probably read way too much into an instagram post. I guess we find out tonight. For what it’s worth, our favorite flying goat boy, Gotita de Plata, mentioned somewhere that he’s on this taping. He could be replacing Venum, he could be the mystery guy (which alway seemed more like “we don’t know yet” mystery than a “big surprise” mystery.)

The opener is Mamba, Mocho Cota Jr., and Soul Rocker against the Apaches in a mixed trios; Faby missed Star Battle and had the weird deal on Heroes Inmortales, so perhaps there’s some reason she can’t wrestle right full matches right now, but I think she’ll probably be there. That opener probably won’t make TV but may be up on YouTube later.

AAA’s card is listed at starting at 8:30pm, which means more like 9. There is no live stream, but it should air next Saturday.

Elite completes the groups taping tonight. They are back recording TV in Mexico City, but now in Plan Sexenal (a venue used a couple times for AAA, but more memorable as a Perros del Mal TV taping locale.) It’s a not a big building, and they should fill it up with a Caristico versus Rey Escorpion match. It’s the big feud they’ve been pushing on TV, and maybe one that’ll turn into an apuesta match down the line. That match is listed as Liga Elite, the Xtreme Tiger/LA Park match is listed as Liga Elite, but the Liga Elite concept only exists on the posters. Tiger has had fun matches with guys his size and not fun matches with guys much bigger than him, but Park is better at selling for smaller guys and figuring out a way to make it work than most.

The fourth match has Mr. 450 and Chicano from Puerto Rico teaming up against Cibernetico & Black Tauro/Taurus. Last week, Cibernetico & Sharlie said they had a surprise. This week, the poster lists Black Tauro as a Hell Brother. I think I’ve worked out the surprise. Golden Magic, Bandido and Zumbi are scheduled to face Hijo de Dos Caras, Hijo de Dr. Wagner and Karone Jr. (Hijo de Dos isn’t always around when he’s listed, which might be more of an Elite issue.) Emperador Azteca & Heddi Karaoui face Imposible & Metaleon in a relevos increibles match; Elite doesn’t really go anywhere with it’s undercard matches (see no Argos/Golden Magic this week), but Imposible & Karaoui have history from IWRG. Mr. Leo & Hijo del Pantera take on Impulso & Belial in a great sounding match which is unlikely to make TV.

This show also starts at 8:30, or at least that’s the plan. It’ll air tomorrow on Azteca7, and about 6 months from now in the US.

Lucha Underground Season 4 has been rumored to start taping in January, and people with the promotion in panel discussions have generally indicated the hope is to tape the first half of the year (give or take) and tour the second half. The Cricket Wireless trip to the temple giveaway contest confirms that the working plan is indeed to start taping in January. The rules state the winner gets a trip to Los Angeles by January 30th. That’s a Monday, so maybe that means tapings on January 28th and 29th and flying home Monday, or perhaps they just figure sometime in January and are using the final date to say it’ll be by that point. This is not the same as Lucha Underground announcing something – El Rey hasn’t even officially said they’re picking up the series for a fourth season – but at least we know a bit of what they’re attempting.

An indie show lists a 11/19 Mascara Dorada match as his final match in Mexico. This is sketchy: it’s not a regular indie promotion (and a booking on a weekend, which Dorada has been trying to avoid), and the promotion was previously advertising the same card without that main event. I’m skeptical it’s correct, but we’ve been looking for any sense of when Dorada might be finished and this is the first time thing I’ve seen suggesting he’d be in all in Mexico.

Two luchadors from the DTU training seminar will get a chance to wrestle in Riviera Maya for a weekend.

Chairo 6 on 11/27 in Arena Naucalpan
1) Memes Rumble (Alberto Dos Rios + 21 surprise luchadors)

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Black Terry Jr. has photos of Wednesday’s IWRG/FILL show and slow motion highlights of the main event. I haven’t asked, but I’d assume that means the show wasn’t taped by AYM.

+LuchaTV released an interview with Rey Fenix that I haven’t watched yet but is probably pretty helpful.

AAA posted their February 2010 taping from Puebla. This is the in-ring debut of Lasser Boy. Lasser Boy was introduced in the AAA anime movie as La Parka’s little brother, in what seemed like a way to add a new kid’s character to the matches – it’s one of the main thrusts of the movie. Lasser Boy won his debut match (which was edited heavily at the time, haven’t watched it back yet, and also includes the similarly infamous Mantra), lost two more TV matches, was listed on spot shows thru May, and then never spoken again.

I’ve never gotten the story of what happened there. It wasn’t like Lasser Boy didn’t get over, he wasn’t around long enough not to get over. It’s certainly possible they decided he wasn’t good enough wrestler, but AAA’s not really been concerned about match quality when they like the character. Maybe they just didn’t like character – between Lasser Boy, Mantra, and the Vipers 2.0, there were a lot of characters who were introduced in late 2009 and then thrown into the dumpster in early 2010 in what felt like a creative shift. Or maybe there was a rights issue with the movie or a problem with the person under the gimmick. Lasser Boy once did a newspaper interview where he gave the same bio information that Atomic Boy has, but later AAA denied they were the same people. (They were about the same height and size, edit: but they were also in the same match later on.) Anyway, this was a Venum thing of 2010, more or less.

Marco Corleone & Mistico appeared on ImagenTV’s Sale el Sol show today. That’s the successor channel to Cadena3 and it’d make sense for CMLL to turn up on that channel. On the other hand, Azteca did CMLL stuff quite often before ending up with Elite on their channel instead, so this is no definite indication (and probably just Dia de Muertos promotion.)

Chicago’s GALLI says they’re bringing back the IWA championships, including the belt that was worn by Mil Mascaras in the 1970s, on a 01/15 taping. GALLI presumably doesn’t know Mil Mascaras is defending the same title in Japan against Nosawa in a few days.

Voices of Wrestling has it’s review of this week’s Lucha Underground.


IWRG (WED) 11/02/2016 Arena Naucalpan
Castillo del Terror, 2016
1) Aguilita Solitaria, Dragóncito De Oro, Panterita vs ?, Bracito de Oro, Felinito
2) Alas de Acero, Black Dragón, Dragón Fly vs Araña de Plata, Demonio Infernal, Skanda
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy © vs Devil Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Machine Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Soul Rocker (San Luis Potosí) [EdM Trios]
third defense
4) Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance, Suicida vs Hanaoka, Heddi Karaoui, Hip Hop Man, Picudo Jr.
Mexico vs Rest of the World. (Picudo Jr. is from Puerto Rico?)
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Sharly Rockstar, Trauma I vs Canis Lupus, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Mr. Electro
6) Hijo del Alebrije vs Emperador Azteca, Leo, Hijo del Pantera, Killer Jr., Bobby Lee Jr., Violencia Jr., Imposible, Pantera I, Zatura [mask, cage]

IWRG’s annual Castle of Terror show, which has to go better than last year’s. They haven’t changed the rules, so someone can accidentally fall of the cage early and screw it up again. This is usually a Sunday show, but Wednesday this year because they rented out the building on Sunday.

Hijo del Alebrije, Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Pantera, and Imposible seem highly unlikely to lose their mask in a match like this. Leo is probably not working twice and that’s meant to be Teelo. He’s the least used of the Ninja Turtles but there’s still life in those characters. Killer Jr. and Violencia Jr. are possibilities as indie guys who aren’t around IWRG a whole much, but might not get a better chance to lose their mask. Pantera I and Bobby Lee Jr. fit too, but IWRG probably could get lengthy singles feud out of Pantera I lose his mask, and Bobby Lee Jr. in a mask match might be a bigger draw in Leon. Zatura sticks out as a guy who’s been gone for a long time and only popped back up in the months before the show; he’s the favorite to lose.

CMLL on 2016-10-07


Recapped: 10/24/2016

What happened: Volador kept the welterweight championship over Cavernario. La Mascara helped Rush win, much to Dragon Lee’s displeasure. Pequeño Olimpico either forget the rules of lucha libre or sabotaged his own match.

What was good: Volador/Cavernario for sure. I really liked the second match, and the fourth and six matches were good.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel and elsewhere. Read More

lucha TV preview for weekend of October 29th


actually readable version

I’ve made some changes. Guadalajara is added back to the list because I can record it and so I can actually keep track of what airs. I can’t do that with the LATV or Titanes en el Ring CMLL shows, so I’ve removed them. The actual static page has the full list of shows I know exist (or might have existed) but I’m not listing up there.  And, yes, I know Guadalajara actually airs on Thursday but I can’t get that one and it’s old news by the time this post goes up.

This is still longer than usual because CMLL is airing Sunday’s show on YouTube. It’ll be three straight days of CMLL streams due to the Dia de Muertos shows, plus the usual Friday night show. CMLL’s added an important match to each show: Valiente/Volador on ClaroSports, Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero on Sunday, the Sky Team defending against the illogical trio of Euforia, Gran Guerrero and La Mascara in Puebla, and the Hijos del Infierno defending against the illogical team of Mistico, Mascara Dorada and Diamante Azul on Tuesday.

I’m still getting a feel for how CMLL Retro is going to work. They haven’t had near as many boxing shows at Coliseo in recent months, so they’re going to slip farther and farther behind if they’re breaking up each taping into two shows. When we were there, it appeared they recorded the whole show, which means a lot of stuff is getting unused. Maybe they don’t tape every week? Maybe it’s just not going to matter because everything is so disconnected anyway.

Lucha Underground‘s preview mentions the loser leaves town and dial of doom matches. There’s at least one more match.

Sunday’s Arena Naucalpan show is another indy promotion taking over the building. AYM now hasn’t aired the last few and I wouldn’t bet on them not airing it again. Gives me more chances to get the FILL show, I guess. (The feed is still not working right.)

Chairo 6 announced, Arena 2 de Junio victorious, Rey Fenix injury update

IWRG (WED) 10/26/2016 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladaitores]
1) Canario & Fly Tiger b Bambino & Último Caballero
2) Lilith Dark, Omega, Voltar b Bomberita, Charly Boy, Oficialito
3) Cadillac, Keshin Black, Kira b Fireman, Keiser Drago, Shadow Boy
4) Bombero Infernal, Picudo Jr., Skanda b Leo, Mike, Teelo
Picudo snuck in a foul on Leo.
5) Ahijado de la Muerte, American Star, Cósmico, Luis Cirio, Luis Cirio Jr., Manny Cirio, Pequeño Unicornio, Tony Cirio Jr. DQ Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal,Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Hip Hop Man, Kanon [Torneo FILL]
Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Arena 2 de Junio (Tony Cirio). Hip Hop Man replaced Aramis. Black Terry forced Atomic Star to apologize for betraying FILL against the LLB team before they started. The match ended with Luis Cirio faking a foul from Black Dragon for the DQ win. Team Arena 2 de Junio invited IWRG to their arena for the rematch.

IWRG people work Arena 2 de Junio fairly frequently, so I suspect that rematch is actually happening. Picudo Jr. is a sneaky good choice to lose next week’s Castillo del Terror (assuming he’s even in the match!)

Carisitco posted a group photo which included Rey Fenix in a sling Wednesday night. That suggests it probably wasn’t a minor shoulder injury.

Lucha Memes announced Chairo 6 will take place on November 27 at Arena Naucalpan once again.

Hechicero is off Sunday’s Chario/LG show in Xalapa. Mephisto will replace him and face Eslabon Perdido instead. It was always hard to figure how Hechicero was going to get from ROH in Maryland to Xalapa in time, though Hechicero is also listed for a show in Oaxaca (which seems like it’d also be tough to make.)

TKD and CultIcon have reviews of Lucha Underground. Segunda Caida reviews last week’s episode.

AAA continues to put up 2010 AAA TV episodes with the February taping from Tehuacan.

A three minute visit to Rey Mysterio Jr.’s collection of trophies and souvenirs.

Excelsior follows around CMLL referee Edgar el Guapo.

Leo Riano claims Rey Escorpion is on a indefinite break from CMLL, has not actually quit, and is on good enough terms that he can go back to CMLL when he wants.

Mamba and Hiedra talk about going to Japan (before they’ve gone.)