LU preview, Tuesday results

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL.com
photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL.com

CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Leono & Robin b Artillero & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Magnus, Oro Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Hijo del Signo replaced Metalico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sagrado b Fuego, Soberano Jr., The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Blue Panther Jr. DQ Virus [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Virus unmasked Blue Panther.
5) Cavernario, La Máscara, Mr. Niebla b Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Dragón Lee LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario goes into the Reyes del Aire with a win.
6) Pierroth, Ripper, Rush b Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Titán LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush & Pierroth cheated to beat Tirantes.

I didn’t watch this one either. Maybe some day. I’m told the second match completely fell apart at the end, but the third match was pretty good.

 

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is number 4 of this season’s 40, titled Brothers in Broken Arms. Matches announced for the show:

Lucha Underground doesn’t have four match shows often. It usually means one or two of the matches will be pretty short.

The MMM show had Lucha Underground’s Eric Van Wagenen this past week. Two of the hosts work in television background, so there’s much more of a discussion about that side of LU than you’ll get in other interviews. I found it interesting that the editors actually work from home and send in their work, since LU can’t afford to bring them in full time. (I was surprised and then I remembered I edit video at home so why am I surprised.) It’s noted that Mark Burnett probably isn’t paying close attention to the show – his assistant is, so they treat her great – but the Robert Rodriguez side is more hands on. Still, they’ve only gotten maybe 3 minor notes the entire time.

Van Wagenen has worked on high profile shows like Survivor and is currently working on the Apprentice, and noted there’s so much more analysis and passion on the LU than anything else. There’s not 70 different podcasts on the Apprentice, with LU “you know every decision is going to microanalyzed, 18 different ways, and if you’re lucky 51% of the people agree with you.” It’s not Van Wagenen being critical of the criticism, but impressed by the volume of feedback they get on this show compared to those with many times more people watching.

There’s a bit of talk about the reaction to Matt Striker’s performance in the WMD match. Van Wagenen’s viewpoint is the he wants Striker & Vampiro to either be really loved or really hated, and he feels they’re doing their job well. He’s not considered about Matt – “Striker has a pretty thick skin, he can take it.” On occasion, they have to pull Striker and Vamp back a bit, but he’s constantly entertained by them.

That WMD match, for what it’s worth, was originally scheduled to be a ladder match (and that’s why the ladder got involved at the end.) Van Wagenen wanted something more colorful and didn’t want to over use the ladder match concept, and thinks everyone involved did well with the match.

Van Wagenen defended intergender wrestling by pointing out LU simply didn’t have enough money in Season 1 to bring in a lot of women – it would’ve just been a lot of Sexy Star/Ivelisse matches – and they were trying to stay true to the (AAA) lucha libre traditions, where intergender wrestling is a already a thing. They are sensitive to criticism on this point – there’s a mention that the first season Ivelisse/Angelico/Son of Havoc storyline was completely rewritten during an intermission, at least in part due to getting a bad reaction from the crowd for the match between Angelico & Ivelisse where Son of Havoc was manager. (Van Wagenen mentions getting an earful about that match from a journalist – that’s been mentioned previously to be Brandon Stroud of Uproxx.)

Pentagon’s new shirt sold out in the first day. The merchandise side and the video distribution is handled by other parts of the partnership (the Lucha Libre FMV side), Van Wagenen he gets info on it but wishes it’d all move along faster the same as everyone else. There’s also a good discussion about handling the different name rights – some names AAA owns, some LU own, some people came into the promotion – Van Wagenen mentions they haven’t gotten everything right here, but they’re trying to make it work.

Fenix has changed his Twitter name to ReyFenixMX and it’s no longer private.

Alberto el Patron is of the Lucha Ilimitado show in Washington. Rey Mysterio will now face Jeff Hardy, which should still be pretty good. Alberto’s restaurant opening is also delayed.

ROH announced the Addiction (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian) & Kamaitachi will face Team CMLL (Ultimo Guerrero, Hechicero and Okumura) in their trios team tournament. It’s an odd heel/heel matchup.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Daga about Heroes Inmortales.

Lucha Memes has a 10/23 show in Coacalco (Chairo Bill Vol 2)
1: Titan vs Sammy Guevara
2: Impulso vs Mike Segura

Misterioso & Sagrado defeated Hechicero & Blue Panther Jr. via fouls on the debut show for Arena Boing in Tulancingo.

DTU will be running free shows in Pachuca at a fair on October 9, 16, and 23rd.

CMLL recaps Matt Taven’s visits to archaeoligcal sites around Mexico City.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground season 3 episode 1.

The 10/16 show at Arena GALLI (but not promoted by GALLI) is now just not happening.

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Z, Vangellys, Virus
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy vs Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Titán vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush

They’re either setting up Azul/Rush, which should be good, or Azul/Pierroth, which should be amazing.

That’s only the second ever Maya/Hechicero match, and the first to make a stream. Don’t start watching this show until the third match.

CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Nautilius vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Black vs Joker, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
4) Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Negro Casas, Shocker

Valiente & Volador challenged for the tag titles last night, so they’ve moved on from every iteration of Los Ingobernables getting a tag title shot to every iteration of Sky Team.

Mascara Dorada is still around in the semimain, which might have a few flips.

2 thoughts to “LU preview, Tuesday results”

  1. The ROH news is great since it means i can leave as soon as it takes place, hopefully early in the show.

  2. How nice of Matt Hardy and his Broken Brilliance to send out his Obsolete Mule Brother Nero to replace El Patron against Rey Mysterio?

    Also, it is quite interesting to see Kamaitachi and Okumura facing off against each other after spending years together in CMLL.

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