Lucha Underground 3×4: Brothers in Broken Arms



Prince Puma beat Siniestro de la Muerte (4:50, flatliner, good)
Pentagon Jr. defeated Cortez Castro (1:05, package piledriver, NR)
Johnny Mundo, Taya, PJ Black, Jack Evans beat Aerostar, Drago, Fenix, Sexy Star (8:52, Jack Evans backslide Sexy Star, good)
Dragon Azteca beat Chavo Guerrero (7:41, huracanrana, OK)


Puma moves around so easily

This week was another episode of building storylines. The biggest match coming is clearly Mil Muertes versus Prince Puma, and it got a little closer tonight. Prince Puma defeated Siniestro de la Muerte in a mostly one sided opener, using Mil’s own move to win, then dived onto Mil in the post match (after Mil had tried and completely failed to interfere.) This turned out to be Siniestro’s “retirement” match, as Catrina snapped the Disciple’s neck later in the show, sucked his (and maybe the others) life force out of him, and passed it on to an even stronger and even more angry Mil Muertes.

We didn’t see Catrina’s amulet, but other parts of that story moved on. Cortez Castro returned to the temple, when he was met with a hug from Dario Cueto. Dario vowed to Cueto that they’d avenge Mr. Cisco and find his real killer. Dario also insisted the show go on, sending Castro directly to the ring to be mauled by Pentagon. Pentagon looking at Vampiro didn’t hold him back this week, and he even broke Cortez’s arm at the end. Cortez really should know his cover is blown at this point, but we don’t know how he’ll respond. Pentagon declared he’d destroy whoever won the chance to face him next

spinning Michinoku Driver
spinning Michinoku Driver

Dario was not as busy as last week, but still got around a bit. He ran into Sexy Star in the (female?) locker room, wondering outloud while Sexy Star hasn’t cashed in her opportunity yet. Sexy Star said she wasn’t scared, but Dario advised her to stick to defending the Gift of the Gods belt and not get in the ring with Matanza. Speaking of defending that title, Mundo happened upon Sexy and made it clear he’s coming for the belt. However, it was Jack Evans who got the pin over Sexy Star in the atomicos match, thanks to an unseen Mundo superkick. Taya was injured at the end of the match, and carried off after it.

The main event went straight to form. Rey Mysterio was a fair ref until Chavo made the mistake of attacking him, Rey punched Chavo into a Dragon Azteca huracanrana for the win, then hit Chavo with a 619 after the match. Dragon Azteca earned a shot against Pentagon Jr., but Pentagon has more people to worry about. A closing vignette revealed Black Lotus was coming back to the Temple, with the Black Lotus Triad, to gain revenge for Pentagon also breaking her arm at Ultima Lucha 2.


trios team work

Just a regular show. The atomicos match was fun, much better than the trios match last week. Jack still was fooling around (or trying to limit his exposure while he dealt with his jaw injury), but it didn’t feel like it over powered the match. The match could’ve easily gone for a lot longer and it had a lot of Sexy Star, but it was enjoyable.

The opener too, though it wasn’t a typical Puma match. It was very one sided, and aimed at focusing on his darker side. The Mil/Puma feud seems a bit generic – it’s not much more than random feuding and one Vampiro promo – but the match itself should be pretty great when it happens again. Siniestro looked good here, and LU gave up on the character much quicker than they usually do – he never really got a feud, just was a set up guy for Mil’s feuds with Cuerno and Puma and an extra man to round out the Gift of the Gods match. The Disciples seem like they’ll go down as a failed concept (though the guy behind this one turns up again later in a different role.)

double headscissors with flip

The Pentagon/Cortez match at least advances that story, and Pentagon “Dark” got a win. (Though the crowd was a lot less into seeing him – maybe because it was his second match of the taping, or maybe because they lost some momentum.) Striker’s done a 180 on Pentagon, viewing him breaking Cortez’s arm as a delightful post match activity and not an evil act. That was weird.

The main event didn’t really work for me; it felt built around Chavo’s strengths and setting up more a Rey/Chavo match than the Azteca/Pentagon match which was actually on the line. The dive catch spot was cool, but also required Azteca to do a simple pescado he’d never otherwise try. Toning down Dragon Azteca and giving him a less than credible win doesn’t do much for his chances against Pentagon.

I really loved Dario hugging Cortez. The Black Lotus Triad vignette at the end was well done, though it’s tough to make much of it if you don’t know what’s coming. Catrina sucking the life out of Siniestro and passing it to Mil was classic LU supernatural wackiness – they stayed true to what they are in this episode.

this did look cool
this did look cool


LU preview, Tuesday results

photo by Alexis Salazar/
photo by Alexis Salazar/

CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Leono & Robin b Artillero & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Magnus, Oro Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Hijo del Signo replaced Metalico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sagrado b Fuego, Soberano Jr., The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Blue Panther Jr. DQ Virus [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Virus unmasked Blue Panther.
5) Cavernario, La Máscara, Mr. Niebla b Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Dragón Lee LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario goes into the Reyes del Aire with a win.
6) Pierroth, Ripper, Rush b Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Titán LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush & Pierroth cheated to beat Tirantes.

I didn’t watch this one either. Maybe some day. I’m told the second match completely fell apart at the end, but the third match was pretty good.


Today’s Lucha Underground episode is number 4 of this season’s 40, titled Brothers in Broken Arms. Matches announced for the show:

Lucha Underground doesn’t have four match shows often. It usually means one or two of the matches will be pretty short.

The MMM show had Lucha Underground’s Eric Van Wagenen this past week. Two of the hosts work in television background, so there’s much more of a discussion about that side of LU than you’ll get in other interviews. I found it interesting that the editors actually work from home and send in their work, since LU can’t afford to bring them in full time. (I was surprised and then I remembered I edit video at home so why am I surprised.) It’s noted that Mark Burnett probably isn’t paying close attention to the show – his assistant is, so they treat her great – but the Robert Rodriguez side is more hands on. Still, they’ve only gotten maybe 3 minor notes the entire time.

Van Wagenen has worked on high profile shows like Survivor and is currently working on the Apprentice, and noted there’s so much more analysis and passion on the LU than anything else. There’s not 70 different podcasts on the Apprentice, with LU “you know every decision is going to microanalyzed, 18 different ways, and if you’re lucky 51% of the people agree with you.” It’s not Van Wagenen being critical of the criticism, but impressed by the volume of feedback they get on this show compared to those with many times more people watching.

There’s a bit of talk about the reaction to Matt Striker’s performance in the WMD match. Van Wagenen’s viewpoint is the he wants Striker & Vampiro to either be really loved or really hated, and he feels they’re doing their job well. He’s not considered about Matt – “Striker has a pretty thick skin, he can take it.” On occasion, they have to pull Striker and Vamp back a bit, but he’s constantly entertained by them.

That WMD match, for what it’s worth, was originally scheduled to be a ladder match (and that’s why the ladder got involved at the end.) Van Wagenen wanted something more colorful and didn’t want to over use the ladder match concept, and thinks everyone involved did well with the match.

Van Wagenen defended intergender wrestling by pointing out LU simply didn’t have enough money in Season 1 to bring in a lot of women – it would’ve just been a lot of Sexy Star/Ivelisse matches – and they were trying to stay true to the (AAA) lucha libre traditions, where intergender wrestling is a already a thing. They are sensitive to criticism on this point – there’s a mention that the first season Ivelisse/Angelico/Son of Havoc storyline was completely rewritten during an intermission, at least in part due to getting a bad reaction from the crowd for the match between Angelico & Ivelisse where Son of Havoc was manager. (Van Wagenen mentions getting an earful about that match from a journalist – that’s been mentioned previously to be Brandon Stroud of Uproxx.)

Pentagon’s new shirt sold out in the first day. The merchandise side and the video distribution is handled by other parts of the partnership (the Lucha Libre FMV side), Van Wagenen he gets info on it but wishes it’d all move along faster the same as everyone else. There’s also a good discussion about handling the different name rights – some names AAA owns, some LU own, some people came into the promotion – Van Wagenen mentions they haven’t gotten everything right here, but they’re trying to make it work.

Fenix has changed his Twitter name to ReyFenixMX and it’s no longer private.

Alberto el Patron is of the Lucha Ilimitado show in Washington. Rey Mysterio will now face Jeff Hardy, which should still be pretty good. Alberto’s restaurant opening is also delayed.

ROH announced the Addiction (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian) & Kamaitachi will face Team CMLL (Ultimo Guerrero, Hechicero and Okumura) in their trios team tournament. It’s an odd heel/heel matchup.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Daga about Heroes Inmortales.

Lucha Memes has a 10/23 show in Coacalco (Chairo Bill Vol 2)
1: Titan vs Sammy Guevara
2: Impulso vs Mike Segura

Misterioso & Sagrado defeated Hechicero & Blue Panther Jr. via fouls on the debut show for Arena Boing in Tulancingo.

DTU will be running free shows in Pachuca at a fair on October 9, 16, and 23rd.

CMLL recaps Matt Taven’s visits to archaeoligcal sites around Mexico City.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground season 3 episode 1.

The 10/16 show at Arena GALLI (but not promoted by GALLI) is now just not happening.


CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Z, Vangellys, Virus
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy vs Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Titán vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush

They’re either setting up Azul/Rush, which should be good, or Azul/Pierroth, which should be amazing.

That’s only the second ever Maya/Hechicero match, and the first to make a stream. Don’t start watching this show until the third match.

CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Nautilius vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Black vs Joker, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
4) Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Negro Casas, Shocker

Valiente & Volador challenged for the tag titles last night, so they’ve moved on from every iteration of Los Ingobernables getting a tag title shot to every iteration of Sky Team.

Mascara Dorada is still around in the semimain, which might have a few flips.