Lucha Underground 2×3: The Hunt is on…

the most powerful slap ever
the most powerful slap ever

the matches

Kobra Moon defeats Bengala (2:46, Dragon (Snake) Sleeper, below average)

Jack Evans defeats Drago (bridging backslide foot on the ropes, 7:19, good)

Fenix defeated King Cuerno in a last man standing match (11:19, great)

the developments

Where to even start with this one?

The Cuerno/Catrina/Muertes pact to keep Fenix away from the main title continues, though with some setbacks. Catrina, disappointed Fenix still had enough spirit to challenge for a rematch with Cuerno, demanded Cuerno finish him off in a last man standing match. Cuerno liked the challenge, but disagreed with Catrina’s notion that he would be no match for Mil. At any rate, Fenix got the win in a back and forth match, tipping over a ladder and sending Cuerno crashing thru a table. This was a non-title match, but Fenix has a good claim on a rematch.

The other matches did not have as much advancement, but served to introduce (and reintroduce) some characters. Kobra Moon defeated Bengala in the opener, in a match more memorable for the shape Bengala is in. He, uh, graduated from the cruiserweight division. We didn’t learn much more about Kobra Moon except she appears to be a snake. Jack Evans defeated Drago in a much better match, using a bridging backslide and a foot carefully placed on the bottom rope to win. Jack declared himself the Dragon Slayer after his narrow victory.

The vignettes stole the show, as they often do:

Drago stops fighting after this for a moment, perhaps afriad Jack is broken
Drago stops fighting after this for a moment, perhaps afraid Jack is broken

A skit with Prince Puma and Catrina dropped the bombshell that Konnan actually died last season when he stuffed in that casket. This didn’t appear to be news to the characters.

A vignette set “a thousand years in the past” had Aerostar meeting ancient Mexican people and insisting on the necessity of bringing peace among the seven tribes. Aerostar said the gods are returning in the form of Men. The ancient people seemed doubtful Aerostar could achieve this goal. The tribesman said Aerostar had returned, so this is likely happening (for Aerostar) after Season 1. It’s not exactly clear, and this was the hardest one to follow. It definitely appears he can travel space and time.

A character profile on Texano established him as a hard working, hard drinking cowboy who still had issues with Chavo Guerrero and the rest of those who attacked him on Ultima Lucha. He’ll be back next week. Texano handled the first section of the promo in English, which is coming along. It’s better than my Spanish, for sure.

The show closer changed what we though was happening for the entirety of season 1. The Crew’s Cortez Castro was revealed to be undercover police, an Officer Reyes. He’d gone deep cover to track down Dario Cueto, and had wanted to bring him in after Mantanza had murdered Bael. His commanding officer, Captain Vasquez, declined at the time (or was just annoyed Reyes brought it up now) and isn’t interested in Catrina or the rest – she wants Dario, who Reyes says hasn’t been seen in months. Vasquez agrees to send Reyes back to the Temple, where Catrina’s invited them back, but not alone. The other officer (who’s unnamed, but is Joey Ryan) will be going as well, though they’re told to pretend as if they don’t know each other and do what they can to bring down Dario. Ryan and Reyes don’t like each other.

The vignette briefly mentioned Blue Demon Jr. had retired back to Miami. Bael was said to be just a street thug. Mr. Cisco and Chavo were touched on.


two tornillos in one GIF
two tornillos in one GIF

I think the feelings about tonight’s episodes are going to be heavily dependent on how interested your are in the Lucha Underground mythology (and maybe your feelings on Joey Ryan in general, since he’s a pretty polarizing figure.) Those last couple of minutes flipped some of season 1 on it’s head, and was totally unexpected at this point. Most of all, The Crew betraying Big Ryck to ally themselves closer to Dario makes a little more sense and seems much more significant. This is a pretty interesting deal if you’re into the storylines, and I am.

Even if you’re not, if you’re someone who’s just watching for the matches, that main event was a pretty strong match. They defied the expectations of what you’d expect from two flyers in a last man standing match, even bringing a ladder in play but not using it for a big dive while still coming up with a compelling finish. Cuerno’s running smash to Fenix’s head was pretty great too. Fenix was good, but Cuerno looked super impressive even in a loss. The pause for ten counts doesn’t usually work for me because it disrupts the flow of a lucha match too much, but they made it work by the end.

Drago & Jack was also good, though again not exactly in the way you’d expect. The announcers even noted it wasn’t until late in the contest before either man tried a dive, and it was much in ring strike battle than it was high risk out of it. Jack was also aiming for an over the top heel than a crazy move exhibition with taunting like his first match with Aeorstar. The eye gouging and thumb biting might mean less snowflakes, but it did his still kind of new character some good. His promo after the match was fun too.

Kobra Moon’s debut did not go well. The editing stuck out, and even then it was one of the least successful matches on Lucha Underground. Her offense looked light and unconvincing. It’s hard to put too much blame on her, because Bengala looked sadly out of shape. He’s been heavy in his entire AAA run and kind of got away with it, and seems to have added another 10-15 pounds since we last saw him and couldn’t get away with it. This is Bengala’s only TV match of the season. Kobra Moon has a cool look and will be back in a few weeks, hopefully it goes better then.

There were farewells to a few people on this show. The Puma/Catrina vignette seemed to only exist to get Puma on TV this week and declare Konnan well and truly dead. That was weird. (Since it came from Catrina, it’s also something that could always be revealed as a lie later down the road.) Blue Demon Jr. retiring to Miami seems to be his write off – he doesn’t appear on the tapings this year. People going in and out is the way of TV shows, but those were names pitched as being pivotal to the success of the show at the start and no one would’ve guess at them both being gone now.

I think I’m going to need to draw a diagram to figure out the Aerostar timeline. (It does bring back the Seven Tribes idea, which hadn’t been seen in a while.) With that, and with Captain Vasquez (who appeared to be a new reoccurring character and not a one off), the advisory that the season would start with a lot of material outside the Temple at first is correct. It’s not bad stuff by any means, but I suspect LU will continue to feature a few minutes of look-ins elsewhere each week until everyone makes it back to the Temple.

the end
the end

2015 lucha libre wins/losses by promotions

Yesterday’s numbers included all matches for everyone regardless of what promotion they were working for. Today, results strictly for each promotion.

I’m skipping the indie groups this year; there’s no sense of a roster for most of them, and DTU runs a lot of shows where results don’t come out. As always, there’s a Google doc with more.


This is any match on a taping for people who were on the roster (made at least 1 TV appearance) during the year. The “draws” are mostly me weirdly listing the original Guerra de Titanes matches as no-contest to preserve the lineup in the database.

Most Wins: Myzteziz & Rey Mysterio (14) – Psycho Clown was right behind at 13
Most Losses: Jack Evans (16); Angelico, Averno and Chessman were right behind at 15.
Best Win %: Rey Mysterio (85%)
Most Matches: Jack Evans (28) – 27 made TV, there was a match in Monterrey which never aired.

Jack’s a good example of the difference between how CMLL and AAA are experienced. If we just count TV shows that are available in Mexico City – not Lucha Underground, the CMLL Guadalajara show, not Azteca, not anything that simply aired on the internet – Jack had 27 TV matches, the most in AAA. Thirty five CMLL luchadors had more TV matches than him. There were more Gran Guerrero CMLL TV matches than Jack Evans AAA TV matches. Sangre Azteca (24) had more TV matches than Angelico (23). Pentagon Jr. and Mercurio had the same amount of TV matches (21). So did Astral and Alberto el Patron (16).


Most Wins: Veneno (25)
Most Losses: Eterno (32)
Big Win %: Miike (82%)
Most Matches: Eterno (56)

What’s left of the IWRG regulars are younger than in recent years. Atomic Star, who was still considered enough a rookie to be in the El Protector tournament recently, had the third amount of matches beyond those two. Hip Hop Man, who’s rarely used in the top half of the card, is fourth. Negro Navarro had 33 matches here, and Black Terry 28. The Traumas are down to about a match every three weeks. Some of that has to do with having less show, some of it aligns with the reasons there are less cards.


including the main three arenas, since the DF matches seem to be booked by the same people.

Only including Mexico City appearances.

Most Wins: Volador Jr. (97)
Most Losses: Mephisto (72)
Best Win %: Aereo (77%)
Most Matches: Volador Jr. (156)
141 wrestlers were part of the main roster (excluding Puebla/GDL only and those who only appeared on Elite shows, but also probably missing some sponsored shows.) That’s slightly down from 145 last year. Wagner, Park and Ramstein only lasted for 2 matches. Sanson and Cuartero made it on the DF roster just at the end of the year, but that means I retroactively count all their GDL matches.

Top 10 most CMLL main Arena matches are Volador, Valiente, Máximo, Atlantis, La Máscara, Último Guerrero, Mephisto, Mistico, Negro Casas and Ángel de Oro. Atlantis is is much higher overall; he’s getting a lot of outside bookings. Rush is way down the list at 77, a product of his early injury and his Guadalajara suspension.

Might as well roll out that TV appearance chart too. This doesn’t include the internet only matches.

72 Valiente
70 Volador Jr.
59 Máximo
58 La Máscara
56 Atlantis
52 Último Guerrero
52 Rey Bucanero
51 Terrible
51 Negro Casas
50 Mephisto
50 Mistico II

CMLL Puebla: 2016-02-08

what's up
what’s up

Recapped: 02/08/2016

What happened: Negro Casas beat Volador to earn himself a title match next week. Nothing else happened – the Mephisto/Angel de Oro feud seemed to be dropped and nothing else was added.

What was good:  The fourth match and fifth matches are the two worth watching.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel. Read More

Tuesday Arena Mexico results, Lucha Underground preview

Tormento Guerrero (with no Guerreros)
Tormento Guerrero (with no Guerreros)

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena México[CMLL]
1) Flyer & Leono b Apocalipsis & Artillero MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:07. Tecnicos took 2/3. though Artillero fell off the top rope when Flyer tried to give him a Spanish Fly.
2) La Comandante, Marcela, Reyna Isis b La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:19. Marcela replaced Seductora and fought against her daughter Skadi most of the match. (With another match in Guadalajara, CMLL might not have had anyone else for the match.) Rudas took 2/3 with Marcela having no problem being a ruda.
3) Súper Halcón Jr. b Disturbio [lightning] MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:04. Halcon won with a hanging DDT.
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., StigmaDQ El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Skandalo pulled off Stigma’s mask as their never ending feud continues Blue Panther Jr.’s mask.
5) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. Rey Cometa MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Valiente MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 9 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Valiente replaced Super Porky.

I didn’t watch this live, started watching very late, got to Skandalo’s entrance and decided I’d rather get some sleep. Those last three results aren’t making me regret it.

The CMLL recaps seem to have decided the “G” in TGR now stands for (Tanque) German. I can deal with that.

Today’s Lucha Underground is episode 3 of season 2, “The Hunt is on…”. They’ve announced all the matches:
Bengala versus Kobra Moon (debut) – a clip of the entrance
Jack Evans versus Drago
King Cuerno versus Fenix

One of those matches has a yet to be announced stipulation.

The second Lucha Underground comic is up, giving the back story of Mil Muerte’s new throne. Someone who looks a lot like Big Ryck meets an untimely demise during the comic book. It looks like they’ll be posting previews one Wednesday, and then the full issue the following week.

Paul London, who’s started working behind the scenes with Lucha Underground this season, says he’s not taking indie bookings from March 11 to May 19th. Maybe those are season 3 taping dates. Maybe they just start with vignettes (but it’d be tough to tape a similar length season unless those are all tapings.) Maybe he’s finally traveling to the moon. It’s quicker turnout around than even I was hearing, and that first day happens to be the same date as Rey de Reyes.

The Tao (and sort of Elite) show in Queretaro last night with Caristico & Mistico vs Mephisto & Black Warrior seems to have sold out the arena. That’s even despite a Fuerza/Octagon main evented show this upcoming weekend in Queretaro that’s free for the first 2,6000 people. The Elite guys haven’t worked out as a major draw in Arena Mexico without TV, but seem like they can fill up the mid level arenas out in the provinces.

Court Bauer says he’s filming the first episode of the AAA US show. He doesn’t say where/when it’s airing, but it sounds like it’s happening. US Dollars are really good for Mexican promotions. (I guess AAA must have an exemption to allowing Lucha Underground contracted wrestlers on other TV shows.)

An AAA interview with Pentagon Jr. states again he’ll keep the mixed tag titles (w/Sexy Star) and win Rey de Reyes. The interview acknowledges he and Lider are out of the mix for the men’s tag titles, with Pentagon blaming Lider.

Konnan was asked about Sexy Star on MLW Radio, but declines to say much about the situation, saying it’ll come out soon enough. Konna does say Sexy Star hasn’t been treated well by AAA and had to deal with a lot of crap when she came into AAA: other luchadoras being unsafe with her in the ring and getting into locker room fights with her. Konnan doesn’t say Sexy Star is done wrestling in Mexico outside of major shows, but that’s the vibe I got from the conversation. Konnan does say he was not at this week’s TV taping, which is counter to what Pro Wrestling Insider mentioned a few days ago.

There’s some talk about Bryan Danielson – and an unnamed AAA official telling Konnan they didn’t see anything in him when he came in for TripleMania. Danielson got the booking thru Ricky Marvin. Konnan mentions he was looking to bring in Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli during that time, but the drug violence made it too unsare.

CMLL has a note on it’s return to Mexican TV, back on February 9th, 1990. It was show aired at 11pm on a Friday, rebroadcasting part of the Coliseo show of that day. EMLL’s Mexico City show had been airing in the US since the early 80s, but it had been held off Mexico TV in an attempt to protect the business (and there’d be probably in the next year after it started airing.) In true EMLL/CMLL fashion, the main event of the show – Los Brazos vs Pierroth, Ulises, Gran Markus Jr. – did not air. They deemed it too bloody. Americo Rocca, Gran Cochisse, Mascara Sagrada vs Pirata Morgan, El Egipcio and Super Halcon was the semimain and did air. Announcers were Pedro Septien, Alfonso Morales and Miguel Linares (who’s still doing the announcing.)

That bit would’ve been a good place for CMLL to promote their the TDN show. There’s no mention of it. There hasn’t been a mention of it since that one Twitter message.

Criterio Hidalgo writes about Rocky Lobo, before his Arena Mexico debut. He just turned 21 yesterday, which seems amazing given how long he’s been around.

Segunda Caida reviews Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro  vs Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II from April 16, 2009


IWRG (SUN) 02/14/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Alas de Acero & Shadow Boy vs Adrenalina & Matrix Jr.
2) Astro, Dragón Fly, Súper Astro Jr. vs Atomic Star, Hip Hop Man, Power Bull
3) Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro vs Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, El Imposible
4) Argos, Emperador Azteca, Veneno vs Heddi Karaoui, Negro Navarro, Trauma II
5) Trauma I vs Hijo De Dos Caras ©, Herodes Jr. [IWRG IC HEAVY, hair, mask]
second defense. Herodes puts up his hair, Trauma I his mask.

That stipulation almost always leads to a title change, with Herodes Jr. more likely to win of the two. Tercera looks like it’s setting up a title rematch.

CMLL (MON) 02/15/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & París vs El Malayo & King Jaguar
2) Asturiano, Robin, Soberano Jr. vs Artillero, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
3) Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Silueta vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Okumura, Sansón
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Volador Jr. © vs Negro Casas [NWA WELTER]
eighth defense

Hope they take some time in the main event, but I’ve got my doubts it’ll last any longer than the woman’s match. Not sure about the Battlon teaming with Artillero, they seem like an anti-military force.

DTU (FRI) 02/19/2016 Autolavado VM, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) Luigui vs Masizito
DTU Kids
2) Gran Cobra & Perro Negro Jr. vs Meteoro & Niño Cobra
3) Hormiga & Paranoiko vs El Chato & El Nene and Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako (Distrito Federal)
4) Exotico vs Adrenalina, Kastigador, Lokillo, Johnny Idol
5) Lanzeloth & Rocky Lobo © vs Jimmy & Kevin [DTU NEXO]
first defense
6) Ayako Hamada vs Drastik Boy, ?, Pesadilla, Tony
7) Miedo Extremo & Sharlie Rockstar vs Cíclope & Super Mega

Sixth match will be weird but also probably great. I like the tag title match too.

DTU Cara Lucha (SUN) 02/21/2016 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Erwin & Irving vs Mazisito & Porrito [lightning]
DTU Kids, 10 man time limit
2) Wasson vs Lokillo
3) Kilvan & Yoruba vs Jimmy & Kevin
4) Fly Star, Fly Warrior, Toxin vs Cíclope, Crazy King, Miedo Extremo
5) Guerrero Mixtico vs Drastik Boy, Adrenalina Fly, Johnny Idol, Dragón Celta, Látigo, Tony
6) Magnífico II, Rayo Star, Sky Man vs Jinzo, Lanzeloth, Rocky Lobo
7) Danger & Toro Negro vs Crazy Boy & Super Crazy and Joe Lider & Ricky Marvin

The combination show between the two promotions, with a lot of CaraLucha vs DTU matches. Sixth match looks th best, but there’s chances for everything to be interesting.

CMLL NJPW FantasticaMania 2016 Day 2: 2016-01-19 

stop hitting Dorada everyone
stop hitting Dorada everyone

Recapped: 1/29/2016
This is the second show of the tour, on 2016-01-19, in Kyoto

What happened: Panther & Maya won their singles matches leading into the tag title match. The Ingobernables were mean. Not much else.

What was good: Maya/Zavala was one of their better ones. Kushia/Mistico vs Gedo/UG was simple but well done. The atomicos was entertaining.

Where can I watch it: It’s on RealHero’s rutube channel Read More