great match roundup, week of 2015-11-14

A week of matches I’ll largely forget about.

Monday night Puebla recap.

Friday night Arena Mexico recap.


rating matches TV Show taped
good Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Laredo Kid vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-14 2015-11-02
good Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Boby Z, Disturbio, Virus CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
good Ángel de Oro vs Hechicero in a lightning match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
good Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. © vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas for the CMLL World Trios Championship CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
good Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Felino, Puma, Tiger CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20
good Atlantis, Dragon Lee, Volador Jr. vs Kamaitachi, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20
ok Electroshock, Fénix, Psycho Clown vs Taurus, Texano Jr., Zorro AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-14 2015-11-02
ok Meyer & Paris vs Artillero & Súper Comando CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
ok Black Tiger, Millenium, Oro Jr. vs Policeman, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
ok Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Dragón Rojo Jr. vs La Máscara,Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-16 2015-11-16
ok Fantasy & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20
ok Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr. vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Ripper CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20
ok La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20
below average Dr. Wagner Jr. & Rey Misterio Jr. vs Brian Cage & Hijo del Fantasma AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-14 2015-11-02
below average Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sangre Azteca, Súper Comando CMLL on 2015-11-20 2015-11-20

Marco defeats Shocker, CMLL to hold press conference this Wednesday

insightful commentary

CMLL (MON) 12/07/2015 Arena Puebla [thecubsfan]
1) Black Tiger, Flyer, Magia Blanca b Akuma, Ares, Espíritu Maligno LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:45, tecnicos took 2/3. Akuma suffered a left knee injury on the second fall finish and had trouble continuing the match. He returned long enough to take a dive from Magia Blanca.
2) Disturbio & Policeman DQ King Jaguar & Lestat LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:34, Disturbio & Policeman taking 2/3. King Jaguar & Lestat didn’t get along. Rudos destroyed one of Jaguar’s knees, leaving him stretchered out. Espiritu Maligno ran out to make the save, and seemed to be friendly with Lestat.
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stigma b Canelo Casas, Okumura, Skándalo LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:26. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:59. Rudos took 2/3.
5) Marco Corleone b Shocker LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Marco took 2/3, beating Shocker clean to remain undefeated in singles matches in 2015.
6) Kráneo, Ripper, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 7 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015- 21:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:05. Rudos took 1/3.

There was nothing horrible, but there was nothing worth going out of your way to watch on the show. No lineup for next week yet. No lineup for Sunday’s show either. No lineup for any IWRG lineup. Maybe lucha libre is just ending this week and no one’s told me? Probably not.

The news from the show were the announcements in between matches. The Christmas and New Year’s Day shows, which they’ve been talking about for weeks as having special (5pm) starting times, also now have names.

12/25: Infierno en el Ring
01/01: Sin Piedad

This fits with the theory from earlier this week: the early December big show concept is generally gone for now, and they’re moving the big shows to later in the month. They may not be loaded shows because CMLL just won’t do loaded shows, but at least something might happen. Infierno en el Ring is nearly always a cage match, and highlights of past cage matches were shown elsewhere on the show. Sin Piedad is a more general purpose name. The last one appears to be in 2012, when La Sombra defeated Tama Tonga in the finals of a Copa Junior. I don’t think they’ll be rematching. The 01/01 show has recently been the site of a lot of opening match luchadors losing their hair or mask.

2012: Hombre Bala & Super Halcon Jr. beating Rayo Tapatio I & II for the masks (Rayo Tapatios’ final CMLL match)
2013: Bobby Zavala & Disturbio beating Leono & Tigre Blanco for hairs (Tigre Blanco’s final CMLL match)
2014: Copa Junior (focusing on first/second match luchadors)

The Soberano Jr./Star Jr. mask win over Ramstein/Cholo last year took place on 01/06 last year. If they go back to the normal pattern, Super Comando versus The Panther should take place on 01/01. I really hope it’s not the end of Super Comando entirely; if Cholo can stick around, he can too. There’s enough other luchadors who’ve done match feuding challenges that they may not be needed in a 12/25 cage match anyway.

We’ll probably have a good idea of whatever they’re planning by tomorrow afternoon. CMLL’s announcers also said there would be the usual Wednesday noon press conference for announcements. The press conference will stream on CMLL’s website, probably thru YouTube again.

One item which was not announced, but hinted at, is the continued tease of a new group of trainees debuting. Iv’e mentioned it seems like one is coming, and the video package seemed to confirmed it. A video package hyped the stars of recent trainee classes and very briefly showed footage of new trainees working out around the Arena Mexico ring. (Paco Alonso was visible, if you looked very closely.) Magia Blanca was at the front of the line when they were running around, so it was recent footage but we didn’t get much a look at who else might be in line. There were also way more people in the shot than are likely going to debut. It’s possible CMLL may introduce the next class entirely at the Wednesday press conference. They’ll be trickling in on cards over the next couple months either way.

Arena Mexico has Atlantis, Titan, and Volador facing Dragon Rojo, Hechicero and Polvora in the main event. Guerrero Maya Jr. and Bobby Z continue their rivalry in the lightning match. The tercera has Fuego, Pegasso, Triton versus Sangre Azteca, Puma and Tiger, all of whom could end up in the cage match.

Guadalajara has the Hijos del Infierno defending the trios championship against Angel de Oro, Blue Panther and Stuka Jr. A title change would be a big surprise. Rush is listed in the main event; Rush is also listed as wrestling Puebla at 4. That’s the other way. I dunno, he’ll probably work Guadalajara.

Averno is still listed as wrestling in Arena Quetereo today. Your guess is as good as mine.

The LLF Anniversary show saw Heronia lose her mask to Krystal, Estrella Explosiva take La Chacala’s hair, and Karisma win the main LLF title from Angelica.

12/25 LuchaMemes updated card:
Lucha Memes added another match to their 12/25 card. Show so far
Negro Navarro vs Virus
Black Terry & El Dandy vs Trauma I & Trauma II
Keira vs Marclea (c) for CMLL Women’s Championship
Negro Casas vs Dr. Cerbero
Arez, Belial, Impulso vs Toscano, Decnnis, Zumbido – new

On Kushida’s regular NJPW podcast (translated via @reasonjp), he mentioned NJPW had expected Sombra over for FantasticaMania, and said the relationship between CMLL & NJPW is as mysterious to him as it is to us. There’s something not quite right there, because the Sombra was still around when the FantasticaMania lineup was announced, but NJPW only found out something was up when they asked for him.

DTU is running Arena Xalapa on Christmas.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.


CMLL (SAT) 12/12/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Acero vs Pequeño Violencia
2) Leono vs Inquisidor
3) Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte
4) Star Jr. vs Nitro
5) Marcela vs Amapola
6) Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
7) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Super Porky vs Boby Z, Euforia, Gran Guerrero

Maybe Maya & Panther can get a title shot after three straight wins. Marcela and Ampola was a big match at one point (and they’ll be on Informa to talk about this one.)

CMLL (SUN) 12/13/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitan Cobra vs Quca
2) Ángel Aéreo & Rey Halcón vs Mercenario & Mr. Brisa
3) León Blanco, Metatrón, Nautilius vs El Chakal, Évola, Sádico
4) El Alteño, El Yaqui, Vaquero Jr. vs Carlos Rogi, Exterminador, Mr. Apolo
5) Mr. Niebla, Mr. Trueno, Negro Casas vs Delta, Gallo, Stuka Jr.

At least we know four people who aren’t working Sunday’s Elite show.

CMLL Puebla: 2015-12-07

don’t trust Volador

Recapped: 12/07/2015

What happened: a The big news has nothing to do with this show. The announcers dropped new items in between falls again

  • the 12/25 show will be an Infierno en el Ring
  • the 01/01 show will be a Sin Piedad

A Ecos video promo implied the Infierno en el Ring will be a cage match. Another video talked about past groups of debuting trainees, suggesting another one was coming soon.

In actual matches, Ultimo Guerrero cheated to beat Atlantis. Atlantis asked for a super libre match like always, but they’ll likely have a normal singles match next week. Shocker lost to Marco Corleone in their own singles match. King Jaguar didn’t get along with Lestat, but didn’t get along with the other rudos either and was stretchered out of his match with a knee injury. Espiritu Maligno made an unlikely and unexplained run-in to attack Policeman & Disturbio for the DQ.

What was good:  Nothing really. There was no embarrassingly bad match, but there were a lot of half speed matches and nothing I’d think about watching again. I don’t even have a strong feeling on match of the night.

Where can I watch it: It’s up on CMLL’s YouTube channel. Read More