CMLL roster for 2016 FantasticaMania announced; Los Ingobernables not on the tour

CMLL & NJPW announced the names for the 2016 FantasticaMania tour Monday night. The FantasticaMania tour runs from January 17th to January 24th, six shows in seven days. CMLL luchadors going this year:

  • Mistico, CMLL trios champion
  • Volador Jr., NWA Welterweight and CMLL trios champion
  • Atlantis, Mexican Light Heavyweight champion
  • Guerrero Maya Jr.
  • Dragon Lee, CMLL Super Lightweight champion
  • Stuka Jr.
  • Fuego
  • Mascara Dorada, CMLL Welterweight champion (and on loan to NJPW until the end of this tour)
  • Titan
  • the Panther
  • Mephisto
  • Ultimo Guerrero, NWA Middleweight champion
  • Hechicero
  • Bobby Z
  • Virus
  • Barbaro Cavernario, Mexican Welterweight champion
  • Okumura

Ring announcer Ivan will be on the tour as well. This will be the NJPW debut of Dragon Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., the Panther, Hechicero, Bobby Z and Virus.

This is an excellent roster for putting together exciting CMLL matches, with some guys I’ve really wanted to see make the trip to Japan but wasn’t sure would make it. The final four from last year’s En Busca de un Idolo – Cavernario, Hechicero, Dragon Lee, and Panther – go to Japan as a group after only Cavernario got the trip last year. Guerrero Maya Jr., who was runner up in En Busca de un Idolo goes anyway; it’s illogical but he deserves it. Stuka, Fuego and Titan have done well in previous trips and Virus should do the same.

Many of the big FantasticaMania matches are usually around title matches. Ultimo may defend against someone. Cavernario/Titan fits. Dragon Lee/Virus as well, though Kamaitachi is already teasing one match against his rival on this tour. A rematch of Dorada/Volador feels like the proper tour ender match, but they could also do something with two luchadors challenging for the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Titles too.

The big news is the omissions. No Ingobernables. No one was really expecting Marco or La Mascara, but Rush & Sombra have been on this tour every year they’ve been healthy and are among the biggest stars of the CMLL crew in NJPW. They’re the only ones who are treated as threats to the NJPW heavyweights. Rush missed last year, so this will be two straight for him. Sombra was supposed to be in the World Tag League, was not. There was recent word going around that Sombra was going to be on this tour and so everything had to be OK with him and CMLL and there was talk of him being the CMLL guy who goes to Japan for a year. Sombra’s not on this tour after all, so he won’t be going to NJPW for a year. Maybe this’ll change when they put up the Puebla lineup for next week, but Sombra’s currently not booked anywhere in Mexico either. There’s definitely something going with Sombra for all these things to be happening.

We know it won’t be Sombra who’s going to NJPW. Who will it be?

Unlikely: Okumura (does not compute), Mistico (better in small dodes), Volador Jr. (CMLL needs him to much), Atlantis (he and Tiger Mask and Lyger could wrestle in trios all year, but nah), Virus (would be great but nah), Ultimo Guerrero (same as Mistico), Mephisto (same), most of the new guys (too new!)

Outside possibilities: Stuka Jr. & Fuego (could do everything Dorada did without being wasted, but seems more likely NJPW would want someone they could build up), Mascara Dorada (just did it, but who knows)

Best candidates: Dragon Lee (is really great, but this is his first time in Japan and is really young, they may want to wait a year to see how he progresses), Titan (is really great, but this may be wishcasting; doesn’t have as a high profile as the other guys), Barbaro Cavernario (is really great, may have to sacrifice a bit of accounting education for wrestling education)

As of November 16, at 11:46 PM, I guess I’d put my money on Cavernario. But not much money, I don’t really know.

IWRG, FULL in Monterrey, Puebla

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 11/15/2015 Arena Naucalpan [@naoki909, Mano a Mano]
Pantera 30th Anniversary
1) Atomic Star & Matrix Jr. b Aramis & Dragón Bane
2) Centvrión, Hijo del Alebrije, Látigo b Hip Hop Man, Kanon, Ram El Carnero
Centvrion’s first match here since last Christmas.
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Diablo Jr. I, Golpeador, Imposible, Violencia Jr.
4) Canis Lupus, Eterno, Spector b Mega, Pantera I, Super Mega
Eterno snuck in a foul on Pantera I.
5) Danny Casas, Pantera, Súper Nova b Heddi Karaoui, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., X-Fly
Karoaui made it from wrestling in Arena Mexico earlier the day. Tecnicos took 2/3. Mascara challenged Pantera to a mask vs hair match.

Mascara 2000 Jr. is funny.

FULL MDA (SUN) 11/15/2015 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [Estrellas del Ring, Lo Mejor de Lucha]
1) Difunto I, Epydemius, Psicotico b Ninja Jr., Obsesión, Ultimo Ninja
Difunto snuck in a foul on Ultimo Ninja.
2) Blue Panther, Solar I, Súper Astro b Fishman Jr., Pirata Morgan, Satánico
Pirata fouled Panther, but Latin Lover ran out to foul Pirata and give the tecnicos the win.
3) Atlantis, Máscara Sagrada, Tinieblas Jr. DQ El Dandy, Mano Negra, Scorpio Jr.
Mascara 2000 ran in to attack Tinieblas. Satanico and Dandy fought after the match.
4) Mistico II, Super Porky, Zumbi b Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero, Toscano
5) La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Rush b Herodes Jr., Trauma I, Trauma II
excellent match
6) Canek, Dos Caras Sr., Rayo de Jalisco Jr. DQ Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000
Scorpio Jr. ran in for the DQ. Usual challenges followed.

Building looks ~70% full, which is a really good turnout nowadays. FULL does a lot of run-ins for the sake of run-ins, not that they’re necessarily going anywhere. lists next sunday’s Elite/CMLL show as Cibernetico, Mephisto and Black Warrior versus Caristico, Atlantis, and Negro Casas. That’s Black Warrior in the spot Box Y Lucha had as Dark Cuervo. does not have the rest of the lineup. Elite released the full lineup on Tuesday night the last couple of weeks.

Today’s CMLL Puebla show has the Sky Team defending their trios titles against Peste Negra. A title change seems unlikely – it seems doubtful a Mistico team is going to lose a title and a Niebla team is going to win one – but they’re capable of having a good match. Locals working tonight are Meyer, Paris, Black Tiger, Millenium, Black Tiger, Policeman, Toro Bill Jr. and Rey Apocalipsis.

Heavy Metal is wrestling in Irapuato next Sunday, listed as teaming with his student Heavy Metal II.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Dragon Lee versus Impulso.

Segunda Caida already has a recap of last week’s Elite main event.

There’s a new lucha libre art exhibit in Argentina.


CMLL (SAT) 11/21/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Sensei vs Camorra
3) Star Jr. vs Inquisidor
4) Starman vs Hijo del Signo
5) Tritón vs Okumura
6) Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
7) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas

Main event could be fun. Semimain is the Arena Coliseo Tag Team champions teaming up in Arena Coliseo. Maybe show up a half hour late for this one.

11/15 AAA TV Results (Ciudad Juarez)

AAA TV (SUN) 11/15/2015 Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua [@aleskywalker, @andgosto, @TKD_117, AAA]
1) Centinela, Mr. Alfa, Pagano b Aéreo, Dragón, Latino
Dark match. Pagano tried a Brillo Dorado but it went wrong. Aereo looked good.
2) Dinastía b Mini Abismo Negro [AAA MINI]
Dinastia’s 7th defense (5 on TV, 2 unofficially on spot shows) and first since June. Pagano & Aereo worked as seconds. Dinastia won cleanly.
3) Australian Suicide & Speedball b Daga & Steve Pain
Speedball beat Steve Pain in a very good match. Daga attacked Suicide after the match.
4) Garza Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
Cuervo appeared as normal, though his name appeared as wrestling on the next Elite show in the Box Y Lucha released earlier that day. Garza Jr. got his first win. Zorro asked Cuervo & Scoria to join him in a new faction (so maybe Zorro really was the stalker?)
5) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Taurus b Blue Demon, Electroshock, La Parka
Pirata snuck in a foul on Electroshock.
6) Averno, Chessman, Psicosis I b Chris Masters, Psycho Clown, Rey Misterio Jr.
Psicosis I replaced Cibernetico (back to AAA), Chris Masters was the mystery tecnico. This was Rey & Psicosis’ first match in AAA since 1996 (they’ve met in Promo Azteca, WCW, CMLL and WWE since.) Psicosis first match in AAA since being fired in May 2014. Rey beat Psicosis clean with a frog splash as a tribute to Eddie Guerrero. Konnan joined Rey (in something probably not taped for TV), talking about past Juarez greats – Fishman, El Cobarde, Cinta de Oro, Rocky Star, Crazy 32, Crazy 33, Ari Romero and Eddie Guerrero.

Air Date: 12/05. AAA airing Guerra de Titanes on a Friday night changed the meaning of this taping. This is now the first show that’ll air after the last PPV, and is the start of the lame duck winter period. Sketching this out for TV

11/21: Xalapa part 1
11/28: Xalapa part 2
(Guerra de Titanes happens on 12/04)
12/06: Juarez (one part)
12/12: Guerra de Titanes part 1
12/19: Guerra de Titanes part 2
12/26,  01/02, 01/09: Best of/Year In Review material
01/16: next taping

There’s usually one more taping in December and one taping in late January, but AAA’s news for the year is almost over. It works out smoothly that this will also be the period when they’ll be busiest with Lucha Underground.

No mentioned of a AAA Mega heavyweight title tournament on the taping. Maybe they’re rethinking, but there’s generally not a sign of anything big for Guerra de Titantes. It’s like Heroes Inmortales where you can see some the undercard come together but they’re lacking a headline match. Konnan’s comments sounded like AAA had planned to do a title switch with Alberto (to Mundo? someone else?) and it doesn’t feel like they’ve come up with a replacement match. If anything, that heavyweight title tournament/decider might get added to the card not because of a need to have a champion, but a need to add a big match to the Guerra de Titanes.

Chris Masters is a rival of Rey Mysterio on the Que Viva el Rey show, but they just did Wagner turning on Rey and doing that twice in a short time would’ve been lame. (It’s also more likely Wagner will be back than Masters.) He and Psicosis are working the Que Viva el Rey shows.

I called Zorro being the stalker! I might be correct! This is the kind of cutting edge insight that drives people to luchablog dot com. No sign of Cuervo leaving town, no matter what was listed in Box Y Lucha. It seems like false advertisements and just bad acting for Elite to put those names out there if they’re not for sure coming, but it’s not like AAA can be critical of others advertising names who won’t be there.

Next taping is Guerra de Titanes on 12/04 in Tampico.

Edit: forgot to mention – this was a sell out, or really close. Good turnout for AAA’s return to Juarez with a TV taping.