Mistic 2.0, Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero & Shockercito/Demus tonight, Rey not to France

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All Elite/Elite Lucha Libre held a press conference today to announce their plans. As usual, even though they’re officially an independent promotion, it was held in Arena Mexico in front of a CMLL background. Myzteziz revealed his new name will be Místic 2.0. He said he had no contract (or was out of contract) with AAA and just decided he was going to leave. He had nice things to say about Rey Misterio Jr. He said he believed he had the rights to the Myzteziz mask, and his new look would combine elements of all his previous characters but he’d be getting rid of the horns. The promotion announced they would be running regularly on Sundays starting November 8th. Myzteziz claimed his brothers (Argenis, Argos and Mini Murder Clown) had not left AAA, each family member was making their own decision, and he had not tried to recruit anyone to come with him.

The name’s not good – adding 2.0 is only good for making jokes hoping for an upgrade to 2.1 next time he botches something – but we got used tot he last name. The running shows every Sunday is really interesting. In a way, they’re already running shows every Sunday: they’re running next Sunday in Arena Mexico and the following Sunday in Guadalajara. There was no mention of where they’re running the 11/08 show. If it’s in Arena Mexico, that’s a pretty big deal in terms of how CMLL works. If it’s not in Arena Mexico but in Mexico City, the relationship between Elite and CMLL probably won’t end up well. If it’s just touring around the country every Sunday, that’s not as interesting but will probably keep him busy longer. These shows are being built completely around Myzteziz, and he’ll be the #1 guy.

Edit: Apolo Valdes says Elite will be taking over the Sunday Arena Mexico shows starting 11/08. That’s a big deal for CMLL to give up one of it’s weekly spots. It’s almost as if Elite is second brand for CMLL.

If Mistic 2.0 was really not under contract, that changes the whole look of the jump – Myzteziz is still a bit unprofessional, but AAA probably should’ve locked down the guy they were building around. AAA’s in the past been pretty insistent that all their top guys are signed to contracts.

Furia de Titanes also disputes the story that Myzteziz was trying to recruit people to leave AAA to CMLL with him, saying a luchador couldn’t possibly guarantee someone spots in another promotion. They also say Argenis and Argos haven’t left AAA at this time, and Argos was only off TV because a “cuban” took him off. This is meant as a slam on Konnan, but if Konnan took the largely terrible Argos off TV in favor of better people, this is actually a great compliment. Please Argos/Argenis leaving started because Argenis changed his Facebook page to take AAA out of the name. (Argos too.) Electroshock figured out that all he had to do is pro-AAA picture and everyone would figure out everything is OK now. Argenis has not.

The author does believe the issues between Alberto and Myzteziz were correct. They cite issues as far back as a post-World Cup press conference (where Myzteziz did a separate interview than the other two.)

Tonight is another Ultimo Guerrero versus Atlantis match. Past Arena Mexico matchups:

2011-09-23 Arena México 5 of 5: Atlantis b Último Guerrero
2012-02-03 Arena México 4 of 4: Atlantis b Último Guerrero
2013-03-22 Arena México 6 of 6: Atlantis DQ Último Guerrero
2013-08-23 Arena México 11 of 11: Atlantis b Último Guerrero
2014-09-19 Arena México 6 of 6: Atlantis b Último Guerrero [mask]
2014-11-02 Arena México 6 of 6: Último Guerrero b Atlantis
2015-10-16 Arena México 6 of 6: Atlantis vs Último Guerrero [CMLL Universal, final]

The last time these two met was on this year’s FantasticaMania. (CMLL’s preview forgot, but so did I until I looked this up.) Ultimo Guerrero won that won, won the last one in Arena Mexico during 2014 Dia de Muertes, and is the heavy favorite to win tonight. This is a not a great matchup for people who watch everything. Atlantis & Ultimo Guerero have the same match every time and they’ll be having it here. It’s a better match for those who don’t follow the promotion so closely or just aren’t as cynically numb. Atlantis doesn’t really need the win (but is one of the few top guys who hasn’t won this tournament) and Ultimo Guerrero doesn’t need to be a three time champ either.

The better match will likely be the Demus 3:16/Shockercito hair match. This is a rematch of a 2009 match, where Shockercito took then Pequeno Damian 666’s hair. Shockercito has never lost his hair and Demus has only lost his hair once since that (versus Virus in the match that sent him back to the minis division, when they were just adding more and more stips.) Both Demus & Shockercito have been pretty great of last and have some signature spots that everyone loves. Shockercito probably will win again, but it’ll be a fun match to that ending.

The other matches on the show include Los Ingobernables (Rush, Sombra, Marco) versus Volador, Valiente, Maximo and Stuka, Dragon Lee and Guerrero Maya versus Virus, Boby Zaval and Kamaitachi. Both of those could be quite good. The show will air on ClaroSports.com at 8:30pm. There were no issues last week, hopefully they keep that streak.

Atlantis & Ultimo Guerrero were part of the main event tag match last night in Arena Olimpico Laguna. The show appears to have sold out, which is rare for that Torreon arena. Ultimo Guerrero won, of course. Atlantis talked about his mask wins to El Siglo de Torreon, and argued CMLL is better than AAA because AAA couldn’t draw as well as CMLL if they ran three times a week in Mexico City. Atlantis says each CMLL draws at least 5,000 people and AAA would draw about 20-30% capacity if they ran regularly for two weeks. He might be right about that part, but 20-30% capacity seems to be what CMLL is drawing most weeks (and who knows where “at least 5,000” comes from.)

WWE is in Merida as show 1 of their three show tour. The scheduled main event is Undertaker & Kane versus Luke Harper & Braun Stroman, though WWE shows frequently change. This is Undertaker’s first appearance in Mexico since 2010 and probably his last shows in this country. They’ll be in Mexico City on Saturday and Monterrey on Sunday. King Barrett & Charlotte did press yesterday.

Averno’s first post-Mytzeziz jump match was Sunday in Oaxaca, and Mano a Mano notes he participated in his match as normal. That match was supposed to be the main event but instead was the tercera, with Alberto explaining it had to occur earlier because he had to leave immediately afterwards due to personal issues. Hope everything’s OK.

Alberto was in Aguascalientes last night, teaming with Hijo de Rey Misterio (III) versus Dr. Wagner and Laredo Kid (replacing Extreme Tiger.) It’s tough to tell on the fan cam, but it looks like a good crowd.

Rey Misterio was being advertised as appearing for a promotion in France next weekend. Today, the group announced Rey Misterio will not be appearing in France, because he demanded first class tickets for himself and his wife. The promotion says they were willing to give his wife a ticket, but balked at the (huge) price of first class upgrade, and now they’ll never be seeing the advance again. They’ve posted photos of payments on their Facebook.  This story sounds a lot like the Alberto/wXw story, though this promotion (LNC) seems far less well known.

The flights list Rey going to France from the 19th to the 29th. Rey’s booked in Torreon on the 18th, so that would be tough to get him back to San Diego for that first flight. Maybe he was doing that because his wife was coming along, but strange they would have him go all the way back to San Diego instead of flying to France out of Mexico City or Monterrey or some place like that. On the other hand, Rey going to France and being unavailable to work AAA TV would easily explain why the Nuevo Laredo taping got pushed back a few weeks.

Lestat acknowledged his mask match with Molotov wasn’t good and pointed the blame at Molotov. Molotov, maybe doing kayfabe to explain why he lost, said he hurt a ligament a week ago. Not sure what ligament. Molotov pointed out Lestat should’ve been DQed for unmasking him, but he was a professional and kept on going. Lestat made the case that the Puebla luchadors have turned the tide against the Mexico City ones, with Stigma, Espiritu Maligno and Lestat getting big wins.

Frontera NorteSure writes about the lucha libre scene in Ciudad Juarez. Eduardo Macazani, who founded local magazine La Lucha Juarez, guessed there’s 300-400 luchadors active in the area and 10 different active arenas. Kris finds so many posters from Juarez and El Paso and those numbers seem about right.Lucha World has KrisZ’s news update.

CaraLucha has an interview with Espanto Jr. for Saturday’s show, who’s making the case that he’ll show more in this match than in his emergency fill in duty on the last show.

RobViper has highlights of 04/30/15 AAA.

Segunda Caida reviews Blue Panther vs Virus.

The Sporting Nation writes about the POR promotion in Glendale, Arionza.

LA Park claims he gets paid better in Arena Naucalpan and Arena Lopez Mateos than he did in Arena Mexico.

Plantilla Deportiva has a video interview with Taya.

Ian posted this week’s AAA show with English commentary.

Mexico city indy promotion IWG held a press conference for their 10/31 show, their first in over a year. They announced a partnership with RCW Evolution in Europe.

Alas de Angel lost his mask to Angel Real in San Luis Potosi.

Pirata Morgan and Blue Demon Jr. want to start feuding.

2 thoughts to “Mistic 2.0, Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero & Shockercito/Demus tonight, Rey not to France”

  1. I love lucha, but I have to be honest. Mistico 2.0+ has burned me out on his name changes and his decreasing performance in the ring. He’s lost a step or two and has lost a lot of his image. Newer talent like Steve Pain are stealing the spotlight and this guy runs around acting like he is the gift to lucha, when those days are over for him.

  2. Mistic 2.0 makes him sound like the second coming and not the original. Not a good marketing strategy.

    I hope that when he eventually sings a new deal with CMLL that they give him back the Mistico name, and put an end to the imitator who cannot live up to the Mistico character.

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