CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-29 

Recapped: 09/01/2015

that’s a win

What happened? The Sky Team kept the trios titles over a non-Ultimo Guerrero combination of the Guerreros. Kamaitachi beat Dragon Lee (!) and challenged him to a title match next week.

What was good? Sky Team defense was great (in the usual fashion) and Kamaitachi/Dragon Lee was good in unexpected ways.

Where can I watch? It’s up on my YouTube channel. Read More

11/06 AAA TV Lineup (Xalapa)

AAA TV (THU) 11/06/2015 Arena Xalapa, Xalapa, Veracruz
1) Goya Kong, Maravilla, Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Mamba
2) Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Fireball vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain
3) Angélico, Garza Jr., Jack Evans vs Hijo del Fantasma, Súper Fly, Texano Jr.
4) Drago, Murder Clown, Speedball vs Brodus Clay, El Mesías, Taurus
5) Fénix, Psycho Clown, Rey Misterio Jr. vs Johnny Mundo, Low-Ki, Pentagón Jr.

Air Date: 11/14

That didn’t take long! Thanks to @CarlaDagaGirl. This looks like a temporary poster too, but it’s enough to start selling tickets.

Low-Ki (phonetically spelled Law Kid) and ex-WWE-er Brodus Clay look like new additions, but it might just be a one night thing. Both (and Mundo) are among the names working the ZZinc show the next day in Veracruz, and AAA might have just been splitting the cost to use them. Clay is theoretically still under contract to TNA and would be needed for their TV shows, if there were any more after this point. Low-Ki was last in AAA in 2006, when the team of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Low-ki defeated Crazy Boy, Juvi and Joe Lider in the finals of a tournament.

Speedball continues to show up here. AAA hasn’t given him said anything, but Smash Wrestling said Mike Speedball Bailey would miss their next show to start with AAA.

Flamita returns as Fireball, facing some of the same guys as his last appearance. It wasn’t mentioned in the results, but Daga attacked Suicide during a backstage interview segment (with Australian Suicide!), so they’re meant to be feuding. That match doesn’t need a reason to happen because it’ll be awesome on it’s own, but it’s good to give them something to do.

Again, tough to tell what they might be going with for Guerra de Titanes, and it now might be different from what they planned when this show was put together. Maybe we’ll get one more taping to figure it out. Interesting that this will be the fourth straight one week taping and eight in nine weeks. They seem to run more taping when they can get local promoters to pay for htem, so all the one week shows means that part of the business is doing much better than it was earlier in the year.

IWRG all champions show, Molotov/Lestat, Volador/Mephisto, Mistico dancing

Mistico II on Si Se Puede

IWRG (SUN) 10/11/2015 Arena Naucalpan [Esterllas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
Caravana de Campeones, 2015
1) Hip Hop Man © b Tortuga Leo [AIWA ARGENTINA CRUISER]
second defense. Hip Hop Man’s father was his second.
2) Imposible © b Hijo del Pantera [IWRG IC Light]
Imposible 10th defense. Imposible gave credit to Pantera for being a good opponent and said he’d be open to a rematch.
3) Apolo Estrada Jr. & El Hijo del Diablo © b Canis Lupus & Trauma I [IWRG IC TAG]
first defense. Diablo used a ref distraction to smack Trauma I with a weapon for the win. Lupus & Trauma were angry with the finish, so they took the belts and left. The commission brought the belts back a few minutes later.
4) Golden Magic © b Trauma II [IWRG JUNIORS]
first defense. Straight falls, a surprise to all. Trauma II was DQed in the first and surprised in the second. Very good match, money thrown in. Trauma II handled his loss better than his brother.
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Hijo De Dos Caras © [IWRG IC HEAVY]
Mascara jumped Dos during the title match photo. Dos still took the first, but Mascara took the second. Dos got a visual submission with the referee down in the third, Mascara dropped him with a martinete and got the pin off that. Dos falls on the sixth defense. Mascara dedicated the title win to the memory of Hijo de Cien Caras.

Magic/Trauma II is easily the most praised match. X-Fly totally could’ve beaten Hijo de Dos, and it’s a little weird Mascara 2000 Jr. is back here (though AAA people have been champions in IWRG in the past.)

CMLL has an unusually loaded up week, starting with a big show tonight in Puebla. The main event is Volador Jr. defending his NWA Welterweight championship against Mephisto. As we saw on Friday, Mephisto’s big match structure is basically “people kick out of the Devil’s Wings repeatedly and then do moves” and Volador has a lot of moves so it could work out well. Mephisto and Volador are tied 3-3 in singles matches all time, with Mephisto defeating Volador early and Volador winning late. He should win late tonight too.

The bigger match is the Molotov versus Lestat mask match. Molotov wasn’t much good as a tecnico, hasn’t been much better as a rudo, and fifty people should be getting mask wins before him but it’s CMLL so you can’t rule it out. Lestat was a Puebla prospect who appeared to get frustrated with his career going nowhere and basically retiring for two years. He’s gotten more focus since returning last December, but it’s at least possible it all might just be a set up for him losing to his mask and disappearing again. And maybe that’s even a reasonable thing to do, but not with Molotov.

Box Y Luchas has Demus vs Shockercito and Luchas 2000 has Hijo del Santo on the cover. I guess that says how much a secret Myzteziz’s jump was; no one knows more about Elite Lucha Libre than Luchas 2000 and they didn’t know to keep the cover open for Myzteziz showing up in Arena Mexico.

I’m not writing much about Mistico II on the Azteca/Telemundo Si Se Puede celebrity reality show because I can’t be bothered to care (and I’m not sure how much it means outside the context of the show.) He’s still alive on the show, and did a dance number as Gloria Trevi yesterday which tore down the house. There’s a 30-45 pre-roll add, but you ought to withstand it and watch the video.

The local newspaper in Reynosa still thinks Myzteziz is appearing on the AAA show Saturday.

Drastic Boy & Flamita will be on the 11/05 DTU show.

Alas de Angel lost his mask in San Luis Potosi.

Segunda Caida reviews Felino vs Blue Panther as part of a run of lightning matches.

Lucha Libre in Japan

10/10 Tokyo Gurentai: Douki beat Low Rider. That was both men’s debut in Japan – Douki on Twitter sounded happy about finally having a match where he was born.

Mascara Dorada actually won on the NJPW show! Post show interviews suggested Dorada’s teaming with Taguchi for the upcoming junior tag team tournament (and also there’s an upcoming juniors tag team tournament), but don’t trust me reading NJPW. None of the Ingobernables were Naito’s friend.

great match roundup for week of 2015-08-29

These are going to not work right, or at least not work how they have prior. I started posting the recaps right after the show for the live broadcasts. It doesn’t make sense to post them again, so that means the reviews for some of these were posted weeks/months ago. I definitely need a better way to look thru old recaps, but I can at least relink to them. This time, it’s only CMLL on ClaroSports 2015-08-31.

The trade off is I should be catching up quicker; a lot of weeks only have two TV recaps to post. The weeks where AAA (re)airs a PPV will only really have C3 recaps. I’d like to sprinkle in some of the indy catch up instead of leaving it all to the end (or just leaving it on my hard drive like last year), but we’ll see.

I’m trying to filter out the Azteca/52MX matches since they would’ve been listed before when they aired on other shows. I’m not sure if that’s the better way. I did update the best matches list.

rating matches TV Show taped
great Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Myzteziz AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-29 2015-08-09
great Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-29 2015-08-14
great Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. © vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja for the CMLL World Trios Championship CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-29 2015-08-23
good Ángel de Oro, Fuego, Tritón vs Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Terrible CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-29 2015-08-25
good Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Kamaitachi, Rey Bucanero, Ripper CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-29 2015-08-23
good La Sombra © vs Último Guerrero for the NWA World Middleweight Championship CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-31 2015-08-31
good Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Kamaitachi, Mephisto CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
good Titán vs Pólvora in a lightning match CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
good Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
good Dr. Wagner Jr. & La Sombra vs Atlantis & LA Park CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
ok Blue Demon Jr. & La Parka vs El Mesías & Electroshock AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-29 2015-08-09
ok Alberto el Patrón vs Brian Cage for the hair AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-29 2015-08-09
ok Astral, Eléctrico, Shockercito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pierrothito CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-29 2015-08-25
ok La Máscara, Máximo, Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Kamaitachi, Último Guerrero CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-29 2015-08-25
ok Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Zeuxis CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-29 2015-08-23
ok Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma vs Kamaitachi, Morphosis, Okumura CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-31 2015-08-31
ok La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Máximo vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-31 2015-08-31
ok The Panther vs Okumura in a lightning match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-01 2015-09-01
ok Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Luciferno, Puma, Tiger CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
ok Blue Panther, La Máscara, Super Porky vs Boby Zavala, Rey Bucanero, Shocker CMLL on 2015-09-04 2015-09-04
below average Bengala & Robin vs Apocalipsis & Espanto Jr. CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-29 2015-08-25
below average Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-29 2015-08-25
below average La Vaquerita, Marcela, Skadi vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-31 2015-08-31
below average Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-31 2015-08-31
watch later Hijo del Pantera & Pantera © vs Diablo Jr. I & El Hijo del Diablo for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship IWRG Zona XXI: 2015-08-31 2015-08-30

Myzteziz doesn’t work in Veracruz, Atlantis gets a another win, Maximo/Terrible

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (SAT) 10/10/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala b Camorra
2) Metálico b Star Jr.
3) Hombre Bala Jr. b Hijo del Signo
4) Sagrado b Tritón
Triton wants a shot at Sagrado and the Arena Coliseo tag team titles but can’t get a win over him.
5) Amapola & Dalys b Princesa Sugehit & Skadi
Skadi replaced Marcela. Rudas won in straight falls.
6) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo b Felino, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
7) Atlantis b Rey Escorpión
Atlantis won clean with an Atlantida.

The only person to beat Atlantis in a singles match in the last year is, of course, Ultimo Guerrero.

CMLL (SUN) 10/11/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Robin b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
straight falls
2) Demus 3:16 & Mercurio b Eléctrico & Último Dragoncito
Scheduled to be a trios match with Pequeno Olimpico & Fantasy.
3) Delta, Fuego, Rey Cometa b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Negro Casas b Titán [lightning]
Negro snuck in a foul on Titan.
5) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, La Máscara b Boby Zavala, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
6) Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Máximo, Rush, Valiente
Terrible beat Maximo to set up a title match next week. Atlantis was listed in Rush’s spot, but it’s Rush in the pictures.

The heavyweight championship doesn’t mean much, but Maximo seems like the most over tecnico. Crowd definitely cheered him over Volador on Friday night. There’s a bit of logic in using him as the main event on a Sunday after a WWE show, though it still doesn’t feel like a big thing.

Mesias replaced Myzteziz last night in Veracruz. They announced he wouldn’t be there at the beginning of the show. It’s unclear if AAA told him not to show up or if he decided not to on his own. AAA hasn’t commented on Myzteziz yet, but it was reasonable to expect they wouldn’t want to do any more business with him. Myzteziz is still be advertised for other shows by local promoters in the next three weeks, which probably means those local promoters also haven’t heard from AAA yet. The Arena Neza group, where Myzteziz is next listed as wrestling on Friday, still was pushing the poster with Myzteziz as the centerpiece on Facebook.

Karlo Colin, in his role as spokesperson for the Lucha Libre Elite shows, talked about Myzteziz’s appearance in Arena Mexico Friday night on Guadalajara’s Super Libre radio show. (Lucha Libre Elite has been promoting the no-promotion-listed Sunday big name indy shows at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara once every month.) Colin was likely part of the process which got Myzteziz into Arena Mexico on Friday and evasive answering questions about it. He only said more surprises are coming and the promotion would have another show in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara soon.

(There’s some irony in Colin being one of the people bringing back Myzteziz to Arena Mexico. Colin, in his other job as part of the Lucha 2000 magazine, made up interviews quoting Myzteziz’s father saying he was saying in CMLL and not going to WWE back when that all happened to try and protect CMLL. Myzteziz and his family were very displeased. Time changes alliances.)

No one’s saying how long this has been in the works, but friend of the site Daniel Gonzalez pointed out some dramatic Myzteziz Twitter messages from mid September which could be read as Myzteziz deciding to making this move.

In the post Arena Mexico interview, Myzteziz blew off his feud with Rey Misterio as one neither man won but he was happy to have done. He said he was looking for his old place in CMLL (again noting no one’s taken it), but did not want the Mistico name. He said he’d be ok facing Mistico II or teaming with him, whatever Mistico II wanted. He mentioned (a little unprompted) Ultimo Guerrero, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. and Atlantis as possible opponents. They’re not even giving away if he’ll be a tecnico or rudo. Slightly interesting the Ingobernables were not on that list.

Arturo Rivera said dumb stuff on Twitter and defended AAA, as he usually does. Boasting about AAA creating stars while others only steal them seems like poor timing when the promotion has been built around ex-US stars Alberto & Mysterio and ex-CMLL star Myzteziz. The thing is Arturo clearly needs to be right about AAA being built around homegrown stars rather soon.

AAA’s had a unfortunate year and that may not be over yet. WWE may be talking to Alberto el Patron about returning. Cageside Seats has all the bits of the story. The quick version is WWE wants to bring back one of it’s former Latino stars to help do better in that demographic, they’ve talked to Carlito but Carlito hasn’t liked the offer, and they’ve probably reached out to Alberto as well. On the face of it, if they’re not offering Carlito enough to return than that offer is probably not good enough to get Alberto either, and Alberto’s previous complaints about the WWE schedule would have to be addressed. Still, WWE is capable of making that kind of deal if they want him bad enough. Alberto himself has said he’s not locked in for season 2 of Lucha Underground. (The fact that no one’s come out and ‘corrected’ that says he was right and probably still hasn’t been locked in.) Myzteziz’s jump to CMLL suggests AAA contracts may not be all that binding either. There’s also been past reports in the WON about at least 1 of the 3 big AAA signings being unhappy with the payouts they’ve been getting. I don’t know which one it was, but the general sense is those deals have not worked out as expected so far. Alberto had much more positive things to say about WWE last time people asked. I’d still be surprised if Alberto left AAA, but it’s not out of the question.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s LuchaWorld.


CMLL (SAT) 10/17/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala vs Apocalipsis
2) Magnus vs Inquisidor
3) Starman vs Hijo del Signo
4) The Panther vs Nitro
5) Fuego vs Sangre Azteca
6) Super Porky & Titán vs Kráneo & Ripper
7) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Titan teams with Super Porky a lot. Main event might be best match.

CMLL (SUN) 10/18/2015 Arena México
1) Leono & Metatrón vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Tritón vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Skándalo
would be Skandalo’s first match in nearly a year.
3) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Rey Cometa vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, La Máscara vs Ephesto, Felino, Vangellys
5) Máximo © vs Terrible [CMLL HEAVY]
Maximo’s fourth defense.
6) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Sky Team in the main event to help out the title match.

There’s no bigger disparity than Pierroth and Hechicero on the same team. Skandalo’s had many injuries; the last one was a knee injury. He’s also had some false alarm returns from injury.

CMLL (SUN) 10/18/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Meteoro vs Guerrero de la Muerte & Quca
2) El Yaqui & Nube Roja vs El Chakal & Mr. Apolo
3) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) El Divino, Esfinge, Frezzer, Magnum, Neutrón vs Kempo Dragón, Mario Mora, Príncipe Kisho, Relampago (Sinaloa), Terremoto [cibernetico]
Jalisco versus Sinaloa

The Sinaloa guys have been showing up for a couple months, but this is the first sign it’s going anywhere.