Ingobernables versus Atlantis, En Busca de un Idolo

Today’s CMLL main event has the original three Ingobernables back together as a trio in Arena Mexico for the first time since Dos Leyendas. That’s a long time! (Naito & Marco have gotten involved.) They face Valiente, Maximo and Atlantis in what should continue the Atlantis/Sombra tease from last week. Few people seemed to understand and/or care about the Sombra/Atlantis feud last year, but perhaps another week will help.

There’s been talk for weeks about the Ingobernables – mostly Sombra & Rush – showing up in Japan this week to help Naito as part of the NJPW G1 final shows. Sombra, Rush and La Mascara are booked in Arena Lopez Mateos on Saturday, which would make it impossible to get to Tokyo in time for the G1 final. CMLL isn’t past having an entire main event not show up, especially with that particular venue, and Arena Neza is advertising Rush tonight while it seems impossible he’ll be able to make the show. Still, it seems unlikely Los Ingobernables would’ve been booked in Mexico in the first place if there was a plan for them to be going to Japan.

The real big match on tonight’s show is the final second round portion of En Busca de un Idolo. It’s tecnico versus tecnico and rudo versus rudo, Esfinge versus Guerrero Maya Jr. and Boby Zavala versus Disturbio in the final match before the final. TKD has the totals

The standings give Disturbio a win which should’ve actually gone to Zavala. Zavala and Maya’s big points for finishing first and second in the fan poll give them a lead again. Maya would be in third without the fan poll, and Esfinge would be in second.

Esfinge seems a pretty good bet to win tonight, since he needs to do so to stay alive. Howerver, he’s finished last in the poll both weeks so far and he’s not going to advance unless that suddenly changes in the last week. Maya doesn’t actually need a win, but one might clinch it for him early.

Disturbio’s situation isn’t quite as dire as Esfinge’s, but it’s not great either. He’s 13 points behind the cut line right now, and Zavala has outscored him by an average of 23 points in the fan poll in both weeks. Disturbio could accumulate a big lead over Zavala tonight with a win and good judging score and still be an underdog to advance.

Those fan polls do have a way of changing in the last week. They’ll also be largely irrelevant if Zavala & Maya both win tonight; it’d be possible for the final to be set tonight if results and judging go just right.

Tonight is the first night the entire Friday night show will stream live on It’s a little extra visibility for the promotion going into the Anniversario show, though there’s nothing on their website which would let you know something is airing. No article, no advertisement. (Very strange.) ClaroSports has been doing live soccer broadcasts over the internet, so this shouldn’t be a tech issue. Still, while I hope this goes great, and the undercard looks fun tonight, I wouldn’t suggest you build your night around expecting to see this.

CMLL has a recap of the minis segment on CMLL Informa, where many matches were set up which will never actually occur.

SuperLuchas talks to Daniel Gonzalez about his custom figures.

LuchaWorld was back up, and then it wasn’t any more. They’re having a lot of server hosting company problems.

Segunda Caida reviews Black Gordman versus Jose Lothario.

LV has reviews of all this week’s lucha TV, including this week’s CMLL C3.

+LuchaTV has lots of highlights, including from the CaraLucha I attended: Famalia de Tijuana vs CMLL and Jinzo vs Toxin vs Polvora, plus hype for Virus vs Dr. Cerebro.

An AAA show at the fair in Durango drew about 2,300. (That was probably this show.)


CMLL (SUN) 09/06/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino, Frezzer, Virgo vs Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
2) Kendra & Silueta vs Chica Tormenta & Súper Estrella
3) Joker, Ráfaga, Sádico vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Esfinge, Nautilius, Omar Brunetti vs Exterminador, Maléfico, Satánico
5) Atlantis, Gallo, Máximo, Mistico vs Mephisto, Mr. Águila, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

This is hard to explain, given this is a card in a CMLL owned venue using CMLL wrestlers, but I don’t think it means Mr. Niebla is actually back – or any more ‘back’ than Mr. Aguila. This is a benefit show with a special noon start time.

There’s an Arena Queretaro benefit show on August 23rd.

08/31 AAA TV Lineup (Tehuacan)

AAA TV (MON) 08/31/2015 Polideportivo La Huizachera, Tehuacán, Puebla
1) Faby Apache, Niño Hamburguesa, Venum vs El Apache, La Hiedra, Mamba
2) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Súper Nova vs Carta Brava Jr., Machine Rocker, Súper Fly
3) Aerostar, Bengala, Drago vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain
4) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria and Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr.
5) Psycho Clown vs Chessman © [AAA LA]
Chessman 2nd defense. Seconds are Jack Evans & Pentagon Jr.
6) Fénix & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs El Mesías & Myzteziz

Poster pulled from KronoSport, but I suspect it’ll be everywhere by the end of the day. FWIW, Tehuacan is about a 100 minutes away from Puebla, so this show isn’t going to affect Arena Puebla (and vice versa) except for the hardcores.

Air Date: 09/05 (the Saturday following) and 09/12.

This card is going to be better than TripleMania, but that’s an incredibly low bar. This lineup has the bonus of looking pretty good on it’s own. Matches two and three in particular have no apparent purpose except for being really good matches, which is something that other show could’ve used.

I’m not really possessed to do the math, but this seems like a much younger card than TripleMania. It’s not just the one time and special event acts like Villanos and Blue Demon; the guys who appeared to be on TripleMania only to keep them happy (everyone in the Demon match, no Cibernetico.) Some guys who are good but aren’t on TV much get a shot.

Myzteziz starts right away on the rudo side, and opposite of Rey Mysterio Jr. Mesias has been best against Fenix (in both countries) and best against smaller luchadors – if he doesn’t have a good match here, he’s never going to have one. I guess the Fenix/Myzteziz Reyes del Aire tag team is dead.

Chessman, last seen participating in his annual dumb fall off a high place in a bad way, gets reassembled to face Psycho Clown. Either Psycho wins the title (which would be great! and maybe the first time this title got to someone where it might get over) or Villano IV costs him the match. I would like to see Jack Evans and Psycho Clown have a prematch strategy session.

It looks like Joe Lider & Pentagon, the actual tag team champions, are back to being a tag team after their misadventures at the end of TripleMania. They’re reintroduced to the tag teams who are actually participating in tag team matches, so those titles should be defended sometime soon. (That seems like the easiest match to figure for Heroes Inmortales, there’s not a lot obviously hinted here.)

Hijo del Pirata hanging out with Daga & Steve Pain (Anarkia lives!) sounds much more fun than Hijo del Pirata hanging out with Electroshock and Parka Negra.

I was a little concerned Venum had vanished when he wasn’t at the AAA march and Ludxor went to Colombia without his tag team partner, but he returns. La Hiedra did well on AAA’s swing thru Nuevo Laredo and gets brought in.

This show continues the pattern of AAA TV mostly being two week shows, so probably not another taping until the second week of September.

lucha TV schedule for the week of August 15


  • I’m not putting Time Warner Deportes episodes until they air three new ones in a row. It’s the LATV rule; it’s fruitless to do guesses on the show if there’s no logic at lay. FULL is dropped until they air a new episode.
  • If the Fireball match airs on AAA TV, it may turn out to be at least the second best on TripleMania.
  • No one really knows how CMLL on is going to work until it happens. Should be exciting. It’s great to get the full show but we’re all going to be sad if it turns out worst than YouTube (and also if it takes a match to figure out, because that should be a good opener.)
  • Titanes del Ring/Claro Sports should be actually interesting this week. Not so sure about the other CMLL TV shows.
  • Figure on IWRG AYM not airing ChilangaMask and showing the trainee show only. Didn’t seem like they taped last Sunday.