Maximo/Casas, Shocker/Mascara, ChilangaMask, AAA TV, FantasticaMania

Esfinge (CMLL/Alexis Salazar)

CMLL (SAT) 01/10/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Flyer b El Rebelde
There appears to be no dive ban on Sabado Retro – even Rebelde was doing dives in this match. Spanish Fly for the win.
2) Sensei b Disturbio
Molotov continues to be announced and not appeared; Sensei won with the Sensei lock in his place.
3) Boby Zavala b Esfinge
Zavala powerbombed Esfinge for the win. Said to be Esfinge’s best match in DF
4) Marcela b Dalys
Moved down a spot. Said to be Dalys’ best match ever. Top rope double stomp gave Marcela the win.
5) Blue Panther Jr. b Sangre Azteca
Moved up a spot. Nudo lagunero for the win.
6) Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr. DQ Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
Misterioso took Delta’s mask for the DQ. Sagrado took Maya’s mask after the fact.
7) Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Blue Panther, Dragón Rojo Jr., Máximo
Bucanero snuck in a foul on Maximo. Maximo wants a hair match with Rey.

Are we sure Molotov isn’t jumping Lucha Underground? We’re very definitely sure, huh.

There appeared to be a private show for a corporation in Arena Mexico Saturday night. La Mascara won a Copa of some sort. It was a private show, not something where tickets were being solved. Still, a couple of days ago I was wondering if CMLL would run a normal show at Arena Coliseo while renting Arena Mexico out to All Elite, and they basically did that here.

Fuego and Aly.

CMLL (SUN) 01/11/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000 COR Angelito & Stukita Angelito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeno Universo 2000, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Rudos took 1/3, the last when Universo beat Angelito and Mercurio & Stukita were counted out after a Stukita dive. Good.
2) Magnus, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Cholo, Metálico, Ramstein Magnus, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Cholo, Metalico, Ramstein, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Magnus replaced Starman. Rudos were DQed in the first fall for throwing Soberano over the top, then Mangus beat Metalico in the third. Cholo – who’s face looks a lot like Cholo’s mask – and Ramstein took Star & Soberano’s masks after their loss. Ok match.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, Pegasso b Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, Pegasso vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos took 1/3. Pegasso replaced the Panther, and fell off the top rope on his own in the first fall. He seemed to be fine the rest of the match.
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico b Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky vs Kraneo, Morphosis, Olipico, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Rudos took 2/3. Heavy on the comedy. OK.
5) Máximo b Negro Casas Maximo vs Negro Casas, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Negro went after Maximo’s knee and submitted him to a STF in the first. Maximo was in great pain but managed to squeeze out the second. Casas continued to attack Maximo while he was getting medical aid, but Maximo was able to rally once again and pin him after a super armdrag. Great match. Maximo challenged Negro Casas to a hair match and Casas agreed to do it at some point in the future.
6) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Shocker b La Máscara, Titán, Valiente
Match did not air on Terra; feed cut out during a Fuego/edecanes dance number. Shocker pulled Mascara’s mask and pinned him for the win.

Unusually big crowd and treated like a big show with two edecan dance numbers. CMLL did not advertise it specially, but gave away tickets via a radio station they’re affiliated with. (If you wanted tickets, all you had to do was sign up.) One of the hosts was announcer for the Terra broadcast and received an awards prior to the show.

Maximo/Casas is worth going out of your way to see. The Terra show cut out before the main event; the show was going longer than usual, but it wasn’t the longest ever show and the ending of the show usually appears to a manual decision (not a clock.)

Chilanga Mask (SUN) 01/11/2015 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [Tercera Caida]
1) Keira b Black Fury
Vaquerita appeared after the match to challenge Keira
2) Herodes Jr. b Karma
bloody match
3) Magnifico b Trauma I
referee 19 1/2 helped Magnifico get the win.
4) Black Terry b Trauma II
good match. Aeroboy challenged Black Terry after – they’re part of the four way on 03/22 – and they ended up fighting. Terry was ready to go right now, but Aeroboy opted to wait until March.
5) Judas el Traidor b Belial
good match
6) Arez b Impulso
good match

Chilanga Mask also announced US indy wrestler Kimber Lee would be on their o3/22 Coliseo Coacalco card.

Konnan talked about the AAA TV situation on this week’s MLW Radio podcast. It’s possible it was done earlier in the week, because he was talking about AAA doing four less TV tapings in 2015 (they ran 32 in 2014) and now they’ve added at least two tapings back for this month. Konnan explained Televisa felt their AAA’s TV was dated and wanted to see changes, specifically citing La Parka’s “Thriller” music as being too old for the TV people. The TV people also didn’t like the venues they were running, with Palenques being singled out as looking run down on TV. The plan to handle that is to run more in Mexico City and near Mexico City, which Konnan feels is their hotter crowd and would have the added benefit of saving on travel costs. They’re also looking to update the graphic packages.

This is not the full scale changes that have been hinted at, and it’s a little bit of what was planned originally for 2014. AAA and the Sports Department of Mexico City originally announced AAA they’d be running the Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera 12 times in 2014, but instead only ran it three times for TV and twice more for sponsored shows. AAA cited difficulty getting dates in the building and not wanting to overload the Mexico City market prior to TripleMania as reasons for the few amount of dates, and those figure to be issues again in 2015. (They haven’t said they’re running Arena Ciudad de Mexico for TripleMania, but everyone would be shocked if they ran any place else.)  Just generally finding modern venues to hold lucha libre events is going to be tough; AAA’s run the places they have because there aren’t many better options in a lot of cities.

Separately, I got an explanation on the “no TV until March” ->  “we’re running twice in January” weirdness. It’s as simple as AAA bringing the idea to Televisa, Televisa requesting AAA they keep producing television shows, and AAA just scheduling dates. It was tough to figure why Televisa would say anything different. Anyway, the situation could mean AAA just produces some lame duck TV for a couple months before going in whatever direction they’re going. AAA’s got the talent to produce some good matches when they’re just thrown out there with no restrictions, so I don’t believe this is a bad thing at all for people who like to watch AAA TV. These are likely to be double taping events, so AAA can take care of as much TV as possible. They might need only one more to make it to Rey de Reyes (which you’d think they’d want to build up in some fashion, but I’m completely lost here.)

The FantasticaMania roster arrived in Japan a few hours ago. Their opening show is about 24 hours away in Osaka, and includes a match honoring Okumura. He says he didn’t imagine he’d be in Mexico for ten years, and he’d like to continue living there. Atlantis says this is his 30th trip to Japan and he likes facing international opponents. Triton is making his first trip, which he says is a dream come true, and he hopes it’s the first of many. Triton also says he does not want to win titles or masks in 2015, but just continue to slowly build his career towards the main event. Angel de Oro is making his second trip, and feels his was inexperienced the first time but left a good impression. Mr. Niebla notes this is his first trip to Japan in 14 years; he says he plans on retiring on five years and isn’t sure if he’ll have another opportunity, plus he’d very much like to challenge someone for a mask match this year.

(Yes, it’s odd there’s so many FantastiaMania interviews.)

Marco does the math and declares if Shocker is 1000% guapo, Marco Corelone must be 10,000% guapo. He seems under the belief that the Ingobernables are just going to be expanded to four people when Rush returns, but I think we’re all just guessing at this point.

I found results for the missing 12/29 Arena Puebla show. The main event went three falls and the tecnicos won all three because everyone lost count, according to the writer.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Cara Lucha announced a IndyStrongibles (Arez, Belial, Impulso) versus the Neza Kings (Guerrero Mixtico, Andy Boy, Danger) trios and a Demus & Pierrothito vs Freelance & Suicida tag match for their 01/31 show.

Demus and Electrico are working in Puerto Rico next Saturday. Rey Horuz is also on that show.

SuperLuchas writes about the IGW promotion, looks back at Enmascarado Rojo successfully defending his mask for the third straight week, and Doc Cerebro vs Bushi.

Segunda Caida reviews CMLL from July and October.

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews Dragon Lee vs Virus and Mocho Cota & Silver King vs Negro Casas & El Dandy from ’94.

An article about a mask collector in Ciudad Juarez. He’s collected 260 in the last four years.

Histeria talks about working the Leyendas Inmortales shows. He’s much too young.


CMLL (FRI) 01/16/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío & Frezzer vs Furia Roja & Thunder Boy
2) El Divino, Javier Cruz Jr., Virgo vs Évola, Infierno, Ráfaga
3) Flash I, Flash II, Gallo vs Pierroth, Pitbull I, Pitbull II
4) Blue Panther vs Satánico
5) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Niebla Roja, Sagrado

No results were ever posted for Friday, but Panther/Satniaco is set up anyway.

Tercera is Pierroth teaming with his brothers, though we’re not supposed to know that. Pierroth’s actually working lower on the card to make that match happen.

CMLL (SAT) 01/17/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Leono vs Camorra
2) Sensei vs Hijo del Signo
3) Astral vs Pequeño Nitro
4) Star Jr. vs Virus
5) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis
6) Blue Panther & Blue Panther Jr. vs Niebla Roja & Rey Bucanero
7) Misterioso Jr., Negro Casas, Sagrado vs Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., La Máscara

Virus singles match! First team up of Blue Panther & Blue Panther in a 2v2 match! Possibly continuing a setup to an Arena Coliseo Tag Title Match soon! You have to be there to see any of this. (That also suggests there’s at least one more of these Coliseo shows.)

On the other hand, totally okay with no Leono vs Camorra video.

CMLL (SUN) 01/18/2015 Arena México
1) Bengala & Metatrón vs El Rebelde & Espanto Jr.
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Molotov, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Akuma, Artillero, Súper Comando
3) Pegasso vs Cancerbero [lightning]
4) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Sangre Azteca, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Máximo, Valiente vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Marco Corleone, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Rey Bucanero

The Shocker/Mascara finish doesn’t go anywhere and we’re all okay with that. Fourth match should be fun. Will Molotov show is the biggest question of our time. 2nd biggest question is if Metatron will take Rebelde’s big move.

6 thoughts to “Maximo/Casas, Shocker/Mascara, ChilangaMask, AAA TV, FantasticaMania”

  1. AAA graphics package is brutal. Especially the pre-match intro graphics with letters “VS” being so big, it’s just so IWCCW indie.

  2. Giving this AAA TV thing more thought, why would Televisa care after all these years? It might be true, but I’m thinking something else. AAA is going to self-improve on graphics, venues, etc………..”just in case”. At some point in 2015 Lucha Underground could get canceled and AAA wants to be in a position to provide quality content to El Rey and/or UniMas.

    Or Televisa wants international rights again?

    I love LU but it’s future has to be considered shaky for reasons mentioned here several times.

    Let’s hope LU gets picked up by a bunch of countries at NATPE.

  3. One thing really pissed me off in Maximo/Casas, they just dropped the whole “injured leg” plot device in 15th minute and never looked back. Hurt the match a lot.

  4. Konnan obviously does not watch televisa programming, during AAA (and NFL) they plug shows like “mi secretaria” and “hogar dulce hogar”, shows from 40 years ago!!! Televisa wouldn’t care about AAA being “outdated” when it is probably its only regular show in GalaTV that has up to date content.Just found out that wwe is out from over the air tv in Mexico. Pretty sure saw a raw spot last week lol, and televisa website still lists it AND CMLL, so, they’re not really much into updating. Konnan said the same during the last podcast from last year, so he’s probably just making stuff up from what he’s heard around.

    Assuming something is gonna change, the most straight forward reason: AAA wants or thinks they’ll make more money, either by increasing revenue (removing middle promoters from the equation by running all the tapings in MxC) and/or cutting costs down. With the economy getting worse, it makes sense to cut down costs and maybe they’re trying to keep face saying Televisa requested the new format. Wouldn’t be surprised if they sold their LU share (assuming someone would want to buy it, which probably is not the case) as that project does not seem to be generating profits anytime soon (if ever).

    Expect the new show (if it happens) to look cheaper, unless they’re actually moving to Canal 5 or 2.

  5. That kind of what I was thinking the other programming was looking like, but I was thinking about it the other way: if Televisa is charging for programming spots, then AAA is occupying space that they could be sold. (Since AAA’s said before “we need a sponsor to get more time”, I’d expect this has been going on for a while.) Televisa may not believe AAA is outdated as much as Televisa just needs an excuse to move on and “looks old” is a decent reason.

    Another theory is Televisa has the rights to sell the show internationally (maybe not even strictly US) and they feel AAA can’t compete with what WWE is offering (and it’s not worth their time to take what CMLL getting), so they want something more marketable. If there are complaints about how the AAA show looks like, it has to come form a different context than where it’s currently airing.

  6. True. Could be sold, but no one is buying, the other programing in gala gets very little sponsorship too. In canal 5 and 7, they air the big name series (with soso advertising during their runs), NCIS airs at 23:30 on 7, Mon-Thur, Dracula and Spartacus in 5 at 23:00 (2 days each), 7 airs most of Disney stuff (Agents of Shield, smackdown was replaced by Ultimate Spidey and Avengers), Canal 5 had Grimm, Walking Dead in that time slot late last year. They mostly rotate seasons in rapid succession, guess Televisa would consider them syndication or something since the newer episodes would have aired on cable months earlier, it seems neither network considers the “18-49 male” demo worth it, since that programming could be prempted by a random soccer game. That’s why I don’t think LU would be picked up by Televisa, it would have to be in canal 5, but they already have the time slot full. Would also explain why Matador was never picked up either (not sure about From Dusk, the Spanish dub exists, but might be for the US DVD release)

    Maybe Gala in full is being retooled and or relaunched? Maybe, but it is easier and probably right to assume that Konnan is just making that story up. If the next Parka entrance comes by, and they use a generic Thriller ripoff, then it means they don’t wanna pay the rights, so they’re in cost cutting mode…

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