Lucha Underground 1×2 (2014-11-05)

Johnny Mundo pulls a Mistico missed tornillo dive – but goes on to win!

the matches

  • Johnny Mundo [O] & Prince Puma [O] b Cortez Castro [X] & Mr. Cisco [X] – (9:21, top rope 450 splashes on both men) – GOOD
  • Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Sexy Star [O] b Ivelisse Vélez & Son of Havoc [X] (2846-3421, casadora cradle) – OK
  • Mil Muertes b Blue Demon Jr. (4:22, flatliner) – OK

the developments

  • Castro, Cisco and Big Ryck all got names. Mundo rushed them, ran them off, they teased coming back with weapons, and Puma evened the odds. Cueto made it a tag match. Mundo & Puma won, but Konnan disauded Puma from getting involved with Mundo and his battles. Konnan wants Puma just to list to him. Puma remains mute.
  • Big Ryck watched his partner’s match from the crowd, smoking a cigar, and walked off with after the loss.
  • Sexy Star beat Son of Havoc to get revenge for last week’s tights pull. Chavo had the match won with the frog splash but tagged in Sexy to allow her to try to the ring.
  • Mil Muertes was introduced. He’s got Catrina, who licks Muerte’s opponents before he faces them. She’s got a mysterious object that’s important to him. He won clean in his debut.
  • Chavo ran in post match as if to save Demon from more of an attack, but instead hit Demon with a chair. Chavo took out two referees, two unidentified wrestlers and was temporary stopped by Sexy. Commentators invented a story about Chavo being Sexy’s hero/mentor. Chavo hit her with a chair shot too. Demon was stretechered out as if seriously injured.


don’t even know what I’m meant to be calling this.

Opening tag match was good. It was less a total move exhibition than last week, but they worked basic tag team forumla and so they had more of a story than last week’s show. Mundo & especially Puma seemed way out of Castro/Cisco’s league in this match. Maybe Cisco & Castro shouldn’t lose in their debuts, but they definitely should not have beaten those guys – and Big Ryck is being treated as the important guy.

Mixed tag match was better than I thought it would be. Sexy’s figured out enough things to do as a tecnica to make it work. Ivellise was given a minimal introduction, no more than Son of Havoc really. There was one really noticable miscommunication spot near the end that they couldn’t edit out, but otherwise it was okay. It served it’s purporse.

stereo 450 splashes

Main event didn’t do much for me. I’m okay with not seeing Demon for a while, but not-Mesias was not so great either. This match was more about getting over the character than having a good match and making Muertes look like a threat via clean win, but it was all kind of blah. It also totally got overshadowed by the post match angle, which an unexplained swerve.

Commentary was worse than last week and more what I was concenred about. Striker was all over place and hitting the “we’re not the WWE!” talking more frequently and more explicity than last week. Vampiro was saving absurd things. They tried to sell the seriousness of the show ending angle but it was hard to be with them at that point. Though the story of Sexy and Chavo having a meaningful relationship came out of nowhere and would’ve been a hard sell for anyone – the sudden of it all and the expectation we’d care cracked me up.

tecnicos win the segunda

The two patterns so far are ending the show with a big angle to try and get people to come back for week two, and the show being broken down into three long segments. They had a long segement to start and a long one to end, which left a lot of commerical time in the middle half of the show. El Rey is airing a lot of house ads and probably cuodl afford to give Lucha Underground a few more minutes. It may be a Unimas issue, but it definitely breaks up the flow of watching the show live.

Things changed between tapings. We’ll see what that means for next week. They have edited things – there’s now way those matches were that short live – but they ending pushing the Chavo turn and the Demon injury angle big and didn’t hint towards the three guys starting next week.

flatliner for the win
and this also happened

top six stories of the last two weeks

  1. Lucha Underground debuted on El Rey and Unimas. The reaction to the show was generally positive, with praise for looking different and the quality of the Puma/Mundo main event. The show was talked about a lot on Twitter that night. Ratings indicated very few people actually watched it on El Rey but “very few people” still means the 2nd most watched show on the network. The Unimas airing generally felt like a native Spanish language product except for the announcers – their sound quality wasn’t good and Vampiro being on both commentating team made for some continuity problems. There’s no word yet as to how they show did on Unimas.
  2. LA Park returned to CMLL. Park and his son made a surprise appearance after the semimain on Friday night. Park mocked the size of the crowd and challenged the top CMLL wrestlers by name, though none came out to confront him. Park is still out for a couple months due to recent surgery, so none of the teased matches should be coming soon – but he’s advertising for an indy show that’s rented out Arena Puebla & Arena Coliseo next week. CMLL mentioned the promo in it’s coverage of the show but hasn’t said anything more about any plans.
  3. Alberto el Patron spoke out against the WWE in an interview with Fighting Spirit Magazine. Alberto talked about dealing with multiple racist incidents, including specifying an unnamed person who fired him as making racial jokes. (Previously, Alberto has said the person who fired him was HHH.) Alberto also said WWE wrestlers were being paid very cheaply and he and Myzteziz would easily be making more money in Mexico. Alberto mentioned the contract AAA offered included payment for working Lucha Underground and Paco Alonso told him to take the deal when Alberto called to see if CMLL could match. Alberto repeated a mention of working in Lucha Underground in 2015 in other UK interviews; he’s been expected to end up there in months and would’ve been in the first run of episodes if he was legally able to be.
  4. CMLL held a week of special Dia Los Muertos shows, where the arena, edecanes, ring personally and the rudos were costumed for the holiday. A God of Hell presided over the top few matches and ordered his mask soldiers to drag the losers to hell after each match. Hell was a side entrance in this case. The God of Hell was revealed to be Ultimo Guerrero both on Friday and Sunday (it was supposed to be a surprise both times?) Guerrero also was God in the ring, defeating Rush and Atlantis in singles matches to main event both shows. Peste Negra kept the national trios titles over the Ingobernables when Rush suddenly decided he didn’t really care that much about the titles and rather just foul Negro Casas. CMLL also set up a haunted house in a basement (though I don’t remember seeing any pictures from it.)
  5. a mystery promotion called All Elite managed to rent out Arena Puebla and Arena Coliseo for a couple shows, and are bringing in Chavo Guerrero Jr., Hernandez, Dr. Wagner Jr., LA Park to wrestle CMLL guys with other indy guys being added in the undercard. The promotion seems to be tied up with Lucha 2000 magazine someway (it’s being pushed hard in the magazine and they’ve rented out Arena Coliseo in the past), but it also appears to be a hugely expensive card which has limited to no chance of making any money. The All Elite card are interesting politically as well, since Chavo Guerrero is part of Lucha Underground and Dr. Wagner is not part of CMLL.
  6. Tercera Caida announced long time host Bernardo Guzmán was leaving the program.
  • Ciudad Juarez wrestler Anima I was killed. A show in his memory, which will also be the retirement show for his two brothers, will take place this weekend.
  • CMLL & NJPW announced the 2015 Fantastica Mania tour. The tour has expanded by one to a sixth show. Barbaro Cavernario & Ultimo Guerrero and 13 yet to be announced CMLL wrestlers will be on the tour.
  • DTU announced a 12 show December show to celebrate it’s 7th Anniversary. That’s easily the most ambitious schedule the small hardcore promotion has run. Xema Ion and Robbie E are probably working the shows, though only Ion has been announced. Those two TNA guys are also working for AAA in a couple weeks.
  • Kenshi Kabuki lost his mask in IWRG’s Castle of Terror, with tecnico Golden Magic winning once again. Kabuki was revealed to be the former (and now returning) Chicano – not actually Japanese. His identity had been an open secret to the hardcore IWRG fans.
  • AAA announced taping lineups for Leon and Mexico City (and quietly canceled the show in between.)
  • Angel de Oro won the CMLL Light Heavyweight Championship from Rey Escorpion.
  • Indy promotion ChilangaMask held a couple of well recieved shows, including a very good Black Terry vs Hechicero match in Monterrey.
  • Indy promotion’s XMW show included a Necro Butcher appearance and luchador Yoruba being knocked unconscious for a length amount of time after taking a knee to the chin.
  • Hijo del Diablo won the WWS Welterweight Championship to continue his feud with Dr. Cerbero.
  • CMLL’s Turibus coverage has expanded to Tuesdays.
  • People keeping titles: Amapola (CMLL-REINA INTL), Oficials (IWRG TAG), Guerreros (CMLL TRIOS), Imposible (IWRG LIGHT)

Esterllita/Zeuxis, Shocker defeats Marco, Lucha Underground, more lucha TV, more racism, race postponed

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 11/04/2014 Arena México [@CMLL_Oficial, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Flyer & Sensei b Cholo & Espiritu Negro
2) Esfinge, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. b Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Metálico
Tecnicos took 2/3
3) La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis b Estrellita, Goya Kong, Princesa Sugehit
Rudas took 1/3. Zeuxis beat Estrellita with La Roca and challenged her for a title shot. Estrellta said no.
4) Tritón b Raziel [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Triton won with his legdrop.
5) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Hechicero, Vangellys
Vangellys replaced Mephisto on Monday. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Blue Panther, Dragón Rojo Jr., La Sombra b Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Mephisto replaced Barbaro Cavernario. Dragon Rojo’s return from injury. Tecnicos took 1/3. Sombra used the ropes to beat Terrible in the first. Panther submitted Mephisto & Rey Bucanero in the third.

Estrellita kind of owes Zeuxis a title shot from missing a match in Puebla in injury, but it’s going to take a couple more weeks.

CMLL (TUE) 11/04/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl, Informador]
1) Espanto Jr. & Sádico b Robin & Sky Kid
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Guerrero Negro Jr., Ráfaga b Smaker, Soberano Jr., Starman
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Pierroth b Ángel de Oro, Gallo, Omar Brunetti
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Máximo, Titán, Valiente DQ Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Tecnicos took 2/3, Casas fouled Maximo.
5) Shocker b Marco Corleone
Shocker took 1/3, sneaking in a foul in the third.

Semimain sets up a singles match next week.

Echoing similar claims by Alberto, Myzteziz said he too sometimes problems with racism in WWE. Sometimes people would say racist things or make racist jokes, but Myzteziz never complained about it. Myzteziz noted he never had that problem with the fans, who were very good to him. Myzteziz teases a reveal about why he really left WWE the way he did and the suggests it’s similar to Alberto (he was going to make much more money in Mexico so why stay.) All that said, Myzteziz said he would be open to working for WWE or in the US again.

The Enmascarado Race, scheduled for next weekend, has been postponed to “sometime first half of 2015”. It was a run on Mexico City’s Paseo de la Reforma coming up in a couple Sundays. AAA was sponsoring it, with promos on TV the last couple weeks. There’s no reason given for the delay, except for saying the race organizers and AAA are not responsible. (That leaves the Mexico City department of sports.) There’s full refund info at the link.

CMLL has an article talking about Niebla Roja & Puma being in Europe at the moment. Magnus is unmentioned. He does appear to be refereeing (in mask) and not wrestling on this tour, but it’s not like CMLL’s specifically mentioned what anyone is doing in this show (no mention of wrestling Cassandro.) This is not a one time thing, CMLL’s consistently ignored Magnus being on this tour for whatever weird political reason.

Lucha Underground’s second episode is tonight. The episode title is “Los Demonios” and the TV preview is “Catrina warns Blue Demon Jr of 1000 deaths; Mundo and Puma are feeling vengeful; Sexy Star and Chavo battle Son of Havoc and Ivelisse.”

Matches taped for this episode
Johnny Mundo & Prince Puma vs Cortez Castro & Mr. Cisco <- the two non Ezekial Jackson people from the angle at the end of the show.
Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Sexy Star vs Ivelisse Vélez & Son of Havoc
Blue Demon Jr vs Mil Muertes <- El Mesias

The first show had the Puma/Mundo match and the third show has the Fenix/Drago/Pentagon match. There’s no match like that on this show and it’s the early episode I’m least excited about. Maybe it’ll look better than it read. The previous week’s episode will prior to this one. It appears El Rey will eventually have the last thee episodes airing each week right up to the new episode

Today’s Wednesday, so both CMLL Informa and Tercera Caida are new, but I’m writing this too early to know who’s the guest on either show.

Recent Legend Inmortales shows posters have had logos for Teleformula on it, and it looks like they’re actually getting a TV show on the network. At a press conference Sunday, the promotion announced their show on Teleformula will air Sundays at 6pm starting this weekend.  Teleformula previously aired IWRG and CMLL lucha libre. They promoted Canek, Fuerza Guerrera, El Fantasma, Lady Apache and Mascara Ano 2000 as top stars, which should give you an idea of the matches. Teleformula airs in the Mexico and US (if you have the right package) with the same feed; something called “Road TV” is listed in that spot right now, but Teleformula’s listings aren’t very accurate.

Rob has highlights of 07/05/14 AAA.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews Rey Hechicero & Black Terry and Rush vs Negro Casas.

Marcela, Goya Kong and Muneca de Plata are headed to Japan for REINA next month. All will be on the 12/12 show (and they’re teasing a Marcela title defense) and the two daughters of Super Porky are staying around for a 12/26 show. Marcela’s also headed back to New York soon.

The Son of Frankenstein, the Infernal Hunchback, a Zombie and La Llorona lost the main event of Sunday’s Arena Aficion show.


CMLL (TUE) 11/11/2014 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Magnus, Oro Jr., Soberano Jr. vs Artillero, Hijo del Signo, Súper Comando
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Titán vs Pólvora [lightning]
5) Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Gran Guerrero, Misterioso Jr., Niebla Roja
6) Felino, Kráneo, Mr. Niebla vs Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Dragón Rojo Jr.

Titan/Polvora and segunda both look good. Estrellita and Zeuxis continue feuding.

CMLL (TUE) 11/11/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Metatrón vs Évola & Infierno
2) Esfinge, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Guerrero Negro Jr., Maléfico
3) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero, Hombre sin Nombre, Virus
4) Máximo vs Negro Casas [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero

That’s the first ever Maximo/Negro Casas singles match as far I know. Tercera could be pretty fun.