Not sure when or if I’ll be around tonight, so consider this news post. Terra and Puebla are set up to record, but who ever knows with those. (I did capture most of C3 from last night – the sound is still off a little – so it’s a good start for recording feeds.)
Arena Coliseo does not have a particularly strong card. They appeared to be starting a Diamante Azul/Euforia title program last week, and they’re back matched up against each other this evening. Best match might end up being the minis match, depending on if Bam Bam shows up and who replaces him. Guadalajara has Dragon Rojo, Mascara Dorada, and Titan versus Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja. It’s a rare Ultimo Guerrero trios match without Atlantis. Niebla Roja returned a week early from his neck injury Friday night. IWRG has the eight man ladder match for a cash prize. It’s hard to believe there’s really that much cash being put on the line when you can see how much they’ve spent on the ladders. There are the usual many other shows run on Sunday; you can find today’s list here. (Or, if you’re really bored and want to see a big download, every event I have on this date ever is here.)
This week’s AAA TV dropped the mention of any taping on 09/17 and added 10/10 in Tlahuelilpan, Hildago. AAA still needs two weeks of TV in there unless something strange is happening. I’d assume the date or location is just changing and we’ll know more next week – that show and the Cancun lineups should be released around this time next week.
Black Terry Jr. has photos of the XMW show in Neza last night. That was the one with the bring your own weapons main event and looks suitable violent.
CMLL (FRI) 08/29/2014Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes] 1) Disturbio & Guerrero Negro Jr. b Soberano Jr. & Star Jr. 2) Kamaitachi, Okumura, Puma b Cachorro, Dragon Lee, Pegasso Kamaitachi beat Dragon Lee with consecutive German suplexes 3) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Fuego b Hombre Sin Nombre, Pierroth, Sagrado Pierrothito came to the ring with Pierroth (normal) but stuck around and interfered in the match (abnormal). Tecnicos still won, with Sagrado and Angel de Oro still feuding. 4) Máscara Dorada, Rey Cometa, Valiente DQ Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla Cavernario fouled Rey Cometa. Mascara Dorada was stretechered out after a tope on Mr. niebla. 5) Negro Casas, Niebla Roja, Rey Escorpión DQ Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Rush Rush tried to attack Negro Casas, but Casas moved and Rush ended up fouling Babe Richard instead. It was by accident, it was still a DQ, and it caused Rush to attack the ref after the fact. 6) Último Guerrero b La Sombra [CMLL Universal, final] Seconds were Rush & Hombre sin Nombre. Sombra took fall 1, Guerrero the second with Pulpo Guerrero, the third with Guerrero Special. He’s the first two time champion. UG declared the same thing would happen on the 19th to Atlantis.
What’s not been clear the last few weeks: Rey Cometa and Cavernario are feuding! They’ve been matched up on trios for the last month (except last week), including fighting after the match a couple weeks ago. They’re matched up in a lightning match next week, while CMLL is short at least one apuesta match for the Anniversary show. Could Cavernario and Cometa, hair vs hair, be happening on 09/19?
It’s not going to help sell tickets much if the feud is not advertised (isn’t that the entire point of CMLL Informa?), but it would be a quite a match and one where I’m not totally sure who would win.
Ultimo Guerrero bringing Hombre sin Nombre out as his second signals to me that they’re not even trying to keep his identity secret from the fans who pay close attention. Hope that means he can return to wrestling normally now.
Mistico was part of the announce crew last night.
AAA’s TV show will have the cage match and Psycho vs Texano today – and it’s already up on YouTube. That leaves the opener and the Copa TripleMania for next week. They’ve also separated out the videos which opened the show, the one for the Reinas de Reinas match, the intros for Psycho Clown and Texano Jr. and the cage match video. It got lost in everything else but the feud & entrance videos for this show were about ten times better than AAA has ever done, and better than WWE quality in a lot of cases. That was an amazing quantum leap, even if I don’t know why poor Saruman got beat up. I’m sure they’ll be back to a normal ad playing on a video board behind a wrestler when they get to Pachuca, but as far as a spectacular event, I bet that TripleMania is what Antonio Pena really dreamed of it being.
Two for two for the CMLL luchadoras! They’re both headed back home now.
CMLL (FRI) 09/05/2014Arena México 1) Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Artillero, Canelo Casas, Súper Comando 2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs La Comandante, Tiffany, Zeuxis 3) Fuego, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys 4) Rey Cometa vs Cavernario [lightning] 5) Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Rey Escorpión, Último Guerrero 6) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush
So if Rey Cometa and Cavernario – one spot higher than would normally appear – is the fourth (mask, women, opener) anniversary show match, could the main event be the fifth? That’s the national trios champions against their most natural challengers, two weeks out from the show. That’s pretty much exactly how CMLL title programs work and would get the Rush/Casas feud and all those guys on the card.
That leaves room for one more match, probably something with Volador, Dragon Rojo, Shocker and Rey Escorpion and two less certain spots. That tecnico spot is going to be rough – Maybe Mistico? Maybe Titan? Maybe Porky? – and the rudo spot isn’t any more clear.
Sexy Team gets it’s first match as a full trio since MARCH.
Tonight’s CMLL show is headlined by Ultimo Guerrero vs La Sombra in the CMLL Universal final. The winner becomes the first two time champion: Ultimo Guerrero won the first tournament in 2009, La Sombra won the second in 2011. Ultimo Guerrero, on a hot streak leading into the his mask match three weeks from today, is the heavy favorite to win. The bigger concern is the match itself, as both guys styles suggest they may not bring out the best match in each other.
There’s not a lot else of note on the show. It’s odd. There are definitely good sounding matches (2/4/5 all have possibilites and we’d be looking forward to the opener if there was a chance in the world it’d air.) CMLL should be building a few more matches to complement Atlantis/Euforia and have not really teased anything of late. There are ongoing and old issues which could be pressed into resolution, but they need ot start flagging up to the fans they’re going to happen if they plan on selling tickets for the show.
This show will probably air on 09/27, and the Veracruz taping the following week will take care of 10/04. Point is, AAA Mexico will be taping way ahead of airing. They may have zero to two TV shows left after Veracruz to Heroes Inmortales, which is usually in early/mid October. I wouldn’t expect a lot for that show, given the limited build to other AAA big shows this year, the few amount of new TV shows, Guerra de Titanes (December) being more important to AAA, and AAA probably more concerned with the events ongoing in the US for the next couple months.
Programming Note: I’m heading back to Mexico City! I’ve mentioned this elsewhere but don’t think I’ve actually said that here. I’m going from September 12th to September 22nd. I’ll definitely be at the CMLL Anniversary show and we’ve got arrangements to make the ChilangaMask show in Queretaro. I don’t think we’ve locked in anything else (except maybe that all minis show), but it’ll probably be the same bit of going to a show every day – probably the CMLL/IWRG shows but maybe not if something else seems more interesting. (AAA is running as far as possible away from Mexico City again this year. They’ve must’ve known!)
The idea is also to bring back the daily podcasts – people seemed to like them ok and it’s still easier to spend a half hour talking about shows than a couple hours writing about them. I grabbed a microphone off Amazon, so they may sound a little bit better this year.
I’m bringing a tablet and a keyboard so there will probably be result posts and other notes posted, just maybe not like usual. I’ve been working on a bunch of recaps and another year of newspaper clippings; if everything works out well, you’ll still get a post around lunchtime every weekday, but it may just be less current stuff.
I’m not sure about video posts on 09/16 and 09/23. My vague idea is I’ll just get stuff up on YouTube whenever I get a chance, but there just may not be a post full of downloads and such as usual. And some shows won’t get done at all for a while because the people who help with them will also be on vacation.
(I’m also expecting to be busy/tired when I get back home, so it may not be until that following weekend until things to get back to normal.)
AAA-Televisa: They’ve got four matches left from TripleMania; I’ll guess opener and main event this week, leaving the cage match and mask/hair for next week.
== CMLL ==
FOX2: CMLL Universal Block A, and whatever else they have time for. Moved to 12:30pm this week.
52MX: Gran Guerrero vs Titan and the mysterious main event
Claro: Angel de Oro, Dragon Rojo, Stuka vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Hombre sin Nombre
C3: Shocker vs Maximo.
TVC Deportes (Puebla): They should be onto the Reyes del Aire show from 08/05, but they’re now four weeks behind and that’s meant a big skip of episodes in the past. (Of note, the recent Sombra/UG match here hasn’t aired, could be one of those skipped over.)
Lucha Azteca: CMLL Universal, Block A
Terra Sunday: maybe random matches from last Sunday?
== Other ==
Noches de Coliseo: Random matches from last weekend?
Poor Alan Xtreme. The Neza Boys got him this time.
Hip Hop Man apparently (?) won that championship in Argentina, so Dragon Celestial going there for a show may actually be the plan.
El Rey announced the taping schedule for Lucha Underground yesterday afternoon. It’s a two weekends (Saturday/Sunday) on, one weekend off schedule for September and October. Tickets are free if you send in your info and are willing to sign a non disclosure agreement. It’s possible they could be taping beyond that and just don’t want to worry about taking tickets for November yet. As it is, one episode per taping would give them twelve episodes, enough to air thru Christmas Eve. If the show is a success and meant to be weekly programming, a second set of tapings in December and January work make sense.
AAA also posted the press release for the show, so whatever disconnect I thought I was seeing is not there. They took out Sexy Star’s FILL championship reign in that one, but left in the mention of the luchadors being announced during TripleMania (which I still don’t think actually happened, but whatever.) I’d assume Dorian and others would be in Los Angeles for the first set of shows (09/06 & 09/07) and not Pachuca for AAA Mexico’s taping. It sets up the odd scenario of one of the biggest matches AAA could run (Myzteziz vs Perro Aguayo Jr.) taking place on a show where the internal AAA focus is primarily going to be elsewhere. They’ll have less to actually do in Los Angeles since other people are running the show, but it’ll be a little bit of a challenge to manage two situations in different countries at the same time.
AAA’s next Mexico taping is on the 19th. That’s an off weekend for the El Rey show so there won’t be the same set of problems. There’s likely to be more double booked weekends the next couple of months though, because there’s not enough weekends for both (unless AAA starts taping more often mid week.) Even beyond that, I’d guess the five AAA luchadors working El Rey (Demon, Fenix, Pentagon, Sexy Star, Drago) would not appear often in Mexico while the tapings are going on even when the schedule works out, to avoid injuries and burning them out.
This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter adds female wrestlers Candice LaRae and Ivelisse Velez to the list of those working the El Rey show, probably as opposition for Sexy Star. Sexy Star and Pentagon Jr. being on the show opens up the possibility of AAA doing something with the mixed tag titles on El Rey, but I’m doubtful the titles are going to be carried between promotions. Lucha Underground seems like it’s just going to be a totally separate product.
The WON also mentioned WWE has taken no action towards Alberto del Rio, Rey Misterio Jr. or AAA for everything which happened on TripleMania. That’s totally unlike WWE. They’ve recently gone after promotions and former recent wrestlers for being billed as their WWE characters on indy shows in the United States. It was said WWE did the same when Myztzeiz started wrestling as Sin Cara in Mexico, though I don’t know that it had any effect. It’s possible WWE just doesn’t feel they can get anything done in Mexico, it’s likely WWE believes going after Del Rio or Misterio right now will just shine a brighter light on their own questionable behavior in both situations. After the Twitter messages, WWE has gone with the idea that if they just stopped talking about Del Rio, it will all eventually get forgotten – and it might, if they weren’t coming to Mexico in October.
UFC almost sold out Arena Ciudad de Mexico on the first day tickets were on sale to the public (though they might have done their usual fanclub presale.) Those tickets are significantly more expensive than the much derided CMLL Anniversary ticket prices. If the product is hot enough, tickets can move at those prices. (CMLL’s not hot enough.)
Last night’s Tercera Caida included the people running the lucha libre seminar. They talked about how they got into lucha libre on the after the show video. AAA luchadors will be guests during the run of the seminar; waking up for a 9AM class on Saturday is tough enough, but seems rough if you’re wrestling the night before.The show included a Flamita promo from Dragon Gate, where he said he’d be on DTU shows on 09/27 (Tulancingo) and 09/28 (Veracruz).
Last night’s CMLL Informa included interviews with Cachorro, Dragon Lee and Ultimo Guerrero. The Guerrero one was interesting for the message they were pushing. Ultimo and JCR emphasized that the match with Atlantis would happen this year for sure, with no tag match or four way or any out similar to last year. Ultimo was asked who his second would be and said he hadn’t decided, going on to say it might be Gran Guerrero but implying they wouldn’t pull any sort of switch – Guerrero insisted he’d wrestle the match clean (limpio!) and not use any tricks to win. This might sell tickets, if anyone saw the show at all. (It would be better to show clips of this than the same promo literally ten times every week on 52MX.)
They also mentioned that, as of this moment, the CMLL press department has been told the Anniversary show will not be airing on Terra. There’s always the hope of an expanded CMLL on Fox show the following weekend, similar to Juicio Final, but even those matches were edited down to fit the time. The two undercard matches CMLL’s announced so far – Dragon Lee/Cachorro vs Puma/Tiger and the women’s cibernetico – are likely to be the first two on the card and unlikely to air unless there’s a total change in how CMLL does TV. There’s always the chance CMLL could change it’s mind if tickets sell well going into the show, but maybe the best chance is to keep letting CMLL know (on Facebook) that you’d like to see the show somehow.
AAA (SAT)08/30/2014Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal 1)Faby Apache, Ludxor, Octagoncito, VenumvsEl Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Súper Fly, Taya Valkyrie 2)Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho ClownvsDemon Rocker, Machine Rocker, Soul Rocker 3)Cibernético, La Parka, MyztezizvsAverno, Parka Negra, Texano Jr.
AAA’s finally back in Juan de la Barrera! This is the third show of the ten they indicated they were running this year. It’s a sponsored show for Helados (ice cream), who’ve been running a ticket giveaway contest the last few months. (So, it’s last minute news to us but may have been announced somewhere else for a while. It’s a free show anyway.)
CMLL (TUE) 08/26/2014Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Leono b Apocalipsis & Camorra
2) Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor, Nitro b Magnus, Molotov, Sensei Rudos took 2/3.
3) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi DQ La Comandante, La Seductora, Zeuxis Tecnicas took 2/3, the last when Seductora unmasked Lluvia
4) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Black Panther, Starman, Stigma Rudos took 2/3.
5) Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Titán b Boby Zavala, Kráneo, Tiger Tecnicos took 1/3, Marco using Mije in the win.
6) Shocker b Máximo Shocker took 2/3, clean.
Uncertain if Shocker got his robe back.
CMLL (TUE) 08/26/2014Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Metatrón & Virgo b Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito b Astral, Meteoro, Último Dragoncito Rudos took 1/3.
3) Gallo, Super Porky, Tritón b Arkángel de la Muerte, Kamaitachi, Skándalo Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Ephesto & Mephisto b La Máscara & Máscara Dorada Rudos took 1/3, Mephisto pulled Mascara’s mask and beat him.
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Rey Escorpión, Último Guerrero Tecnicos took 2/3, UG pulling Atlantis’ mask for the DQ.
Ultimo Guerrero and Atlantis don’t seem to like each other! I think Mephisto/Mascara might be the least interesting of all the possible singles matches to come out of that semimain. Ephesto/Mephisto would at least be weird.
El Rey finally released details about next week’s tapings for the AAA show. It’s name has switched again, to “Lucha Underground”. Contrary to what I had reported earlier, there will be AAA wrestlers on the show: Blue Demon Jr., Sexy Star, Fenix, Drago and Pentagon Jr. Note they’re all masked luchadors – that’s probably one big reason why Sexy Star is there and others are not. Other people are to be announced at some point later, though probably not too much later since the tapings are still supposed to be on 09/06 and the show will debut on 10/08 at 8pm ET/7pm CT.
The press release claims these names were all announced at TripleMania. That didn’t actually happen, but maybe they forgot about in the Alberto del Rio rush. (It may not be just that, because AAA Mexico has been really quiet about the AAA US project of late.) This probably explain why Drago was added to the card, since that gave them footage of all five people to use later. (TripleMania as B-roll, basically.) The plan looks like they’re building around Blue Demon Jr. as the big star, and hopefully he’ll be more reliable available in the US than he has been for Mexico.
Eric Van Wagenen is listed as the showrunner. IMDB lists him as working on past Mark Burnett shows (including the Contender, weirdly named dropped here) and also on WWE’s most recent reality shows: the last season of Tough Enough and the (only?) season of Legends House. I did not watch Legends House, but Tough Enough was pretty standard reality show fare completely made by Steve Austin’s performance.
I probably would have more faith in this project if the person writing the quotes could spell “luchadores” correctly. Edit: The online dictionaries are saying “-es” is the correct plural, not “-s”, so they’re right and I’m crushed.
Random tournament! Champions are still Nero Casas & Shocker and any of the four tecnico teams could win this. Only 2 trios matches means the tournament matches could get more time, though Puebla shows seem to be on the short side normally.
Edit: I missed it, but this is just Block A of a tournament. So now anyone could really win.
CMLL (TUE)09/02/2014Arena México 1)Robin & Star Jr.vsEspanto Jr. & Ramstein 2)Fantasy, Shockercito, Último DragoncitovsDemus 3:16, Mercurio, Pierrothito 3)Lluvia, Marcela, SiluetavsAmapola, Dalys, La Seductora 4)Dragon LeevsVirus[lightning] 5)Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, TritónvsBoby Zavala, Misterioso Jr., Tiger 6)Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, TitánvsEphesto, Hechicero, Shocker
Hechicero versus Mascara Dorada and Titan is going to be a thing to see. Dragon Lee vs Virus is promising enough to keep checking CMLL’s YouTube page on Tuesday night. They’re actually doing a Lluvia/Seductora feud, for some reason.