CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-04-12


taped 2014-04-08 @ Arena México

Leono hit by ghost double boot

Leono & Metatrón vs Espanto Jr. & Zayco: Four guys in no man’s land where the announcers spent most of the match talking about other matches to come, as if to reassure you that were actually going to get something better if you didn’t go now. Announcers didn’t distract from a good match, at least. Espanto Jr. looked a little more aggressive at times and Leono has yet another look, but this was unremarkable.


Hooligan makes Oro look like a moron

Dragon Lee, Oro Jr., Pegasso vs El Rebelde, Hooligan, Súper Comando: This was a rough one, definitely below what should be expected from this unit. Oro Jr. had a memorable flip to absolutely nowhere in a spot gone so wrong it was impossible to work out what happened. It took him a while to recover from that. Young técnicos were awfully dumb at the end of the first fall, but the Rebelde balanced it out by celebrating his tornillo splash instead of staying on Pegasso for the clean win. As sure as Dragon Lee is eventually going to injury someone with his finish (and nearly did here), Pegasso’s also got to put the 450 splash on the shelf. It’s not looked any good in a while.



Dark Angel vs Marcela, Estrellita, Goya Kong, Lluvia, Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Tiffany, Princesa Sugheit, Dalys in a cibernetico match for the Number One Contenders to CMLL-REINA INTL championship: Good women’s cibernetico, with ruda Amapola heroically defeating the woman who took her hair and the woman who took her mask to win the tournament. The last bit of Dark Angel versus Amapola was fun and I wish they could find a way to do more Dark Angel singles matches. Princesa Blanca was good in her time – her dive is pretty effortlessly on target lately. The disqualification seemed random, but she didn’t argue it at all. There were some rough spots, Lluvia is not very good at this point and Estrellita is Estrellita, but this was overall fine.


caveman splash

Hechicero vs Cavernario in a En Busca de un Idolo match: Very good match made memorable by Hechicero’s crazy fall on the barricade, but there was plenty of other good wrestling around. This wasn’t a one man show, Cavernario kept fighting Hechicero the whole way. All the way to the final, with Cavernario fighting Hechicero to block his hold only for Hechicero to get the great spinning cobra clutch backbreaker was solid. Hechicero’s judging celebration was also great.

Súper Halcón Jr. vs Guerrero Negro Jr. in a En Busca de un Idolo match: Much more the generic move trading lightning match, which is not going to work in this tournament and especially after the last match. They both did some moves, they did a weird suplex and Halcón moonsaulted for the win. These are kind of the matches it seems like they’re told to have, but it’d seem more advantageous to do what other people are not in this tournament.

La Máscara, Rush, Stuka Jr. vs Herodes Jr., Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas: Another Negro Casas/Rush teaser, and a brief one (maybe they still can’t time out the En Busca de un Idolo segments?) Negro didn’t seem to be much of a match for Rush this week, though Negro did beat Rush in the post match mocking. Herodes wasn’t in much and got to take Rush’s dropkick to the face and an extra Mascara heel kick, so it was not much fun for him.



Mistico vs Averno for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship: Do you like headscissors? Do you like matches which are nothing but headscissors? Well, you probably still won’t like this match because even the headscissors aren’t novel or impressive. Místico La Nueva Era is nearing his two year anniversary and any idea of him growing into the role hasn’t happened so far. Not from an aesthetic crowd, not from a fan interest level. This match drew a crowd who strongly wanted to see Averno win. Averno had no luck, not in getting the win, not in getting this to be something worth watching. Finish itself felt way early and screwed up somehow; Averno was refusing to quit just as it was ruled he did. What a strange way to go (if he went!)

CMLL adds another TV show, Metalico contra Oro Jr., En Busca de un Idolo

Ultimo Dragoncito finds his way back to the fans/Terra

CMLL (TUE) 05/06/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Molotov & Robin b Akuma & Espiritu Negro
tecnicos took /23
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Inquisidor b Metálico, Oro Jr., Sensei
Rudos took 1/3, after Oro Jr. accidentally hit Metalico. Metalico, still in a shoulder brace, went crazy on Oro Jr. after the match.
3) Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragoncito COR Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico Astral, Electrico, Ultimo Dragoncito vs Demus 3 on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos took 2/3, the last by countout after a triple dive. They were allowed to do (multiple) dives because they were in the tercera.
4) Star Jr. b Cavernario [En Busca de un Idolo]
4) Cavernario b Star Jr. [En Busca de un Idolo] Star Jr. vs Cavernario in a En Busca de un Idolo match, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Blue Panther was guest judge. Cavernario defeated Star Jr. in a back superplex flipped into a faceslam. Cavernario scored a 8, 8, 10 and 7 for 33. Star Jr. scored a 6, 7, 7, 9 for a 29.
5) Hechicero b Súper Halcón Jr. [En Busca de un Idolo] Super Halcon Jr. vs Hechicero in a En Busca de un Idolo match, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Hechicero won with a camel clutch. Hechicero scored a 7, 7, 8, and 8 for a 30. Super Halcon Jr. score a 5, 5, 6, and 4.
6) Herodes Jr., Terrible, Vangellys b Sagrado, Stuka Jr., Super Porky
Sagrado replaced Mistico. Rudos took 2/3.
7) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero
Rey Bucanero replaced Niebla Roja on Monday. UG planned on jumping Atlantis, but Atlantis got the drop on him. UG still pulled Atlantis’s mask for the first fall DQ. Rudos took fall 2. Delta & Maya beat Bucanero & Euforia in the third.

Terra’s feed was a second of action followed by five seconds of a still image for the first two and a half matches. They restarted the stream in the tercera and everything was fine after that.

Metalico & Oro Jr. feuded at the end of the En Busca de un Idolo qualifying cibernetico. Metalico’s been out of action since then, and is till not 100%, but they definitely were picking back on that in this match. This seems like a much more promising feud than Metalico’s previous one with Hijo del Signo.

Star Jr. & Cavernario was easily the better match of the two En Busca de un Idolo matches. Hechicero went more rudo in his match, as the judges had demanded, and ended up with a below average judges score. He also had to deal with Super Halcon Jr., who is not helping himself or anyone else.

How would’ve the semimain worked had Mistico not suffered a motorcycle accident? Herodes Jr. would’ve worked with him?

CMLL (TUE) 05/06/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Black Metal b Acertijo
2) Camorra, El Cuatrero, Sansón b Sky Kid, Smaker, Stigma
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Puma & Tiger b Black Panther & Cachorro
Puma & Tiger took 1/3, Puma pulling Cachorro’s mask and Tiger covering him for the win.
4) Felino, Kráneo, Ripper b La Máscara, Titán, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3, Felino defeating Mascara.
5) Diamante Azul b Ráfaga [OCCIDENTE HEAVY]
Diamante Azul is champion and took falls 2/3 to keep the title. First defense.
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Rush DQ Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
Rudos took 2/3, Rojo fouling Marco.

CMLL announced a slight change the TV situation. “Guerreros del Ring”, featuring matches from Guadalajara Tuesdays and Mexico City Sundays has been airing on both 52MX and sister channel Claro Sports. They’re going to split that show into two different shows. 52MX keeps the Guerreros del Ring name, but will broadcast matches from Guadalajara exclusively. Claro Sports gets Titanes del Ring and the Mexico City Sunday matches. This change, including long over due new bumpers for Guerreros del Ring, starts this Saturday. CMLL will now have 7 hours of television a week in Mexico (though it’s impossible to get it all via one provider and there’s also 1 additional hour in the US.) They’re also currently airing about 7 hour of internet TV, with a lot of duplication between the two.

This is a net positive for people who like to watch things I upload onto the internet. CMLL has been taping the complete Guadalajara shows, and now two more of those matches will make air. I won’t have access to the Claro Sports show – it doesn’t have a US feed and it’s only on Dish, Megacable and MasTV in Mexico – but all those matches already air on the Terra internet show. (The US version of 52MX gets a few more repeats of Guerreros del Ring than airs in Mexico; ideally they’d replace one of them with the Claro Sports show, but it’s never worked out that way.) There will be some weeks where the Terra feed has some issue and some matches may go missing, but it’s more content most weeks. CMLL has clearly picked (over)saturation over strength and taking any money they can get from slicing up their live content as many ways as possible. This doesn’t seem to do anything to help CMLL’s overall situation but maybe put a few more pesos in someone’s pocket. If you like picking thru the matches, then you might be able to find something more interesting.

The CMLL press release lists the Tuesday Terra broadcast as if it’s ongoing and not just until the end of En Busca de un Idolo. I assume it still is a temporary situation, but maybe it’s something to keep in mind in a couple weeks.

This 05/17 show in New Mexico is not noteworthy in itself, but it’s part of a trend of a crew of Ciudad Juarez luchadors working a wide variety of United States locations the last few months. They’re using the Border Wrestling Association name; Albert has more posters here. Some of the guys who wrestle in Juarez have also turned up on Saturday in Arizona, Colorado and Georgia before returning to Texas or Chihuahua on Sundays. It doesn’t seem like enough to be a full time job, but they’ve figured out something.

Mistico continues posting photos of his damaged leg, this time saying he had four screws placed in, but vowed to return to “1000%” in a few months.

Segunda Caida reviews La Máscara, Rush, Titán vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas.

An Aeroboy vs Black Terry rematch has been added to the 05/25 ChilangaMask show.

LuchaMania has a Sin Cara interview.

Video interview with Los Revolucionarios.

Pasion Kristal talks about being on the Villahermosa taping.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at Mr. Niebla defending a middleweight title in 1995. Middleweight!

A fake Hijo del Fishman! Why would you be a fake Hijo del Fishman? If you’re going to lie, lie bigger than that.



CMLL (TUE) 05/13/2014 Arena México
1) Acero & Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) Metálico, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Disturbio, El Rebelde
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis
4) Cavernario vs Guerrero Negro Jr. [En Busca de un Idolo]
5) Dragon Lee vs Súper Halcón Jr. [En Busca de un Idolo]
6) Blue Panther, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Boby Zavala, Terrible, Vangellys
7) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Main event we were supposed to get this week! Will they finally do the title match on the 20th?

Guerrero Negro Jr., incredibly, is still on the fringes of the top four. He could really use the win. Super Halcon Jr. is not on the fringes of anything.

Will Metalico’s turn take longer than the Princesa Sugehit?


CMLL (TUE) 05/13/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Virgo vs Demonio Rojo & Sádico
2) Black Metal & Leo vs Artillero & Súper Comando
3) Black Panther, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Kamaitachi, Magnum, Shigeo Okumura
4) Gallo vs Sangre Azteca [lightning]
5) Metatrón & Sagrado vs Puma & Tiger and Sky Kid & Smaker and El Cuatrero & Sansón
6) Máscara Dorada, Titán, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión

Semimain is a brothers tag team tournament. Main event looks very good. It’s only the second time Metatron & Sagrado have teamed up. Presumably the top 3 matches will air, but that’s going to take a week to figure out.

top six stories of the last two weeks

Averno left CMLL to work with Sin Cara again. In a rare move, CMLL actually acknowledged Averno had left the promotion. Sin Cara, Averno and various local promoters used Kid’s Day/Labor Day weekends to run a week full of shows around Mexico. The two, teaming with AAA wrestlers or independents, drew good crowds though not consistently sold out ones. Sin Cara, Averno haven’t been officially announced as working for AAA yet, but it’s coming soon. AAA TV lineups on 05/17 and 05/24 have luchadora sorpresa spots which are holding a spot for Sin Cara & Averno.

Mistico II is out of action for an indefinite time after getting into a motorcycle accident. The accident took place Friday, and CMLL has only said Mistico broke a couple of bones in his leg. Mistico has been more forthcoming on his own Facebook, saying he had four screws put in his leg and vowing he’ll be 1000% in “a few months.”

AAA announced Verano de Escandalo would take place on 06/07 in Orizaba, Veracruz. Psycho Clown challenges Texano Jr. again for the Mega championship (the first TV defense in 7 months) will be on the card, and challenges were made for a Blue Demon Jr./Chessman Latin American championship match. The other big development from AAA’s weekend of tapings was the debut of “Bengala” – not the CMLL luchador using the same name, but Ricky Marvin under a mask. Marvin is a fine addition, putting him under a mask is a bit more mysterious.

La Sombra, Rush and La Mascara have formed a rudo outlaw group. All three are now basically doing Rush’s “most hated tecnico” character, only they’re now not getting along with any one else. The three are saying they’re not tecnicos or rudos, but they’ve been repeatedly turning on their tecnico partners and rudos have tended to work as tecnicos against them. The build here is to set up a Negro Casas & Mr. Niebla tag challenge versus La Mascara & Rush (and continue to Casas versus Rush beyond that.) The story has taken a strange turn – that tag title match was announced for this Friday, then everyone involved was abruptly pulled from the card this Monday with no explanation.

The En Busca de un Idolo tournament continues on – but to what, we don’t know. Hechicero continues to lead over all, with his dominance in internet polling passing pushing him far beyond Cavernario (who’s doing better in the other phases of the competition.) Soberano has a little bit of lead for third. Cachorro, Star Jr., Guerrero Negro Jr. and Dragon Lee are all close in a battle for fourth – which may or may not matter. The youngsters in this tournament have looked much more adept at putting together good matches than would be expected for their experience, which is the most important outcome.

El Dandy lost to Satanico in his “retirement” match, as the main event of the 04/27 Chilanga Mask show. Satanico faked a foul, causing El Dandy to lose by disqualification. The good news for Dandy is interest in the Satanico/Dandy retirement tour has grown, and he’s now got at least three more matches after what was billed as the end. In the undercard, AAA’s Eterno worked as a surprise wrestler in a four way tag match that also included CMLL luchadors, and Black Terry beat Aero Boy in a very good match.

– Dr. Wagner Jr. defeated La Park in the main event of the Masked Mania show. Negro Navarro defeated Solar in the second biggest match. The iPPV had issues during the middle of the show, but the two biggest matches got thru clean.

– Stuka Jr. won the CMLL Reyes del Aire, in what would be Averno’s final match for the promotion (for the time being.)

– Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. won the annual IWRG Rey del Ring 30 man royal rumble match.

– Mascara Dorada will be part of the NJPW BOSJ (and probably lose more than he’ll win, because JAPAN)

– Demonio Maya won the Occidente Middleweight championship from Fuego

– People who kept their titles: Escorpion, Flamita (in Dragon Gate!), Mephisto, Angelico & Jack Evans, Hijo de Pirata Morgan

– One ref lost his hair to another in IWRG.

Cameraman does not watch what he’s filming, goes down hard.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-04-12


taped 2014-04-01 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara

Leo flipped

Leo vs Camorra for the hair: Best match of their feud. Match in their feud with the fewest springboards. These are not coincidences. Leo is not an agile flying guy but can do a good tope and can do near falls, so that’s what they did. This is not near as good Stigma/Camorra and Camorra does not have Pólvora like super powers, but this was better than I thought it would be based on the feud leading up to it. The finish is so random, the crowd is still to busy chanting at each other to notice at first, and then don’t react much when it’s made clear. They worked a storyline about Leo having an injured shoulder early on, but kind of abandoned it until it’s supposed to play into the finish. Like the match, it doesn’t quite work. I have no better understanding of why this feud happened after watching it.

Leo takes out Camorra with a tope
Trash can to the head

taped 2014-04-06 @ Arena Coliseo
Atlantis vs Mr. Niebla: Watched this via the Terra recording, drove myself mad with the sound slowly drifting apart from the video. There was a match underneath that, which seemed more active and varied than their match in this same building a few months ago. We’re still in the moment where 51 year old Atlantis can have good 10-12 minute singles matches, but CMLL doesn’t seem in a hurry to have the ones that they really need to have before that time runs out. This particular match was Atlantis’ usual classic moves, a couple dives, and a little bit of Niebla goofiness, though less than you’d expect – he took it more seriously than usual. The finish is pretty definitive and seems like an end to this feud for now, which means they’ll be back at it someplace else by the time you read this.

not the most disguised rope grab, but the ref misses it


Astral wins

Eléctrico vs Astral, Stukita, Acero, Pequeño Halcón, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito, Último Dragoncito, Fantasy in a cage match, loser loses mask: If you’re in a cage match, and someone’s trying to be the first person to leave, and you’re the only person there to stop them, why are you stopping them? You only really win a cage match by escaping, so as long as you’re pretty sure you’re not going to be the last person left by letting someone go, let them go and worry about yourself. The only time you should be thinking about stopping people from escaping is if you really hate them enough to want to finish it with them, or if you’ll be stuck in the final if they escape. These are the things I think about when lucha libre makes me watch too many pointless cage matches in a short time. (Also, the climb over the top part as elimination bit is still not as dramatic as touching the floor. At least CMLL came up with the last two having to finish like a real match.) As usual, match improves when there are less people in it, which makes you wonder why all all those people who were so unnecessary that they quit the match a dozen minutes before it ended were ever in the match to start with. Nitro blowing his own escape was a delight. Eléctrico may want to consider wearing pants which aren’t easily pulled down the next time he’s in a cage match – or maybe he doesn’t want to consider that. Final match between Astral and Pequeño Halcón was not as rough as it sounded on paper, more like an intense lightning match than might be feared.