CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-26


Rudas plan needed some work.

taped 2013-10-15 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Luna Mágica, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit: Only aired because everyone was on auto pilot. Not a good match, not really interesting in anyway. Between the rest of CMLL’s Sunday show and the Guadalajara one, there surely were more interesting matches to be had, but what we had was a lackadaisical luchadora match.

Valiente crushes Ultimo Guerrero

taped 2013-10-20 @ Arena Coliseo
Valiente vs Último Guerrero: Straight up Ultimo Guerrero match, with Valiente plugged into the opponent spot. He did fine and the crowd was into him but it really wasn’t about him. There’s been a lot less singles UG matches of late and it’s been a pleasant change. UG still has no plans of changing how he does singles matches – not even the order of the moves in the third fall – so at least they’re giving chances to other people instead of doing these. This seemed a little longer and little better live, but neither version is worth going out of your way to see.


can’t believe this didn’t work!

Atlantis, La Máscara, La Sombra vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto: This seems like a real match live, but was edited down to not be much of one for the first two falls and then total autopilot for most the last two falls. I guess it was enough, but it was also very nothing special.. Crowd cheering more for Mascara than Sombra is feels so wrong but happened here. Unclear if there was a plan for a Mephisto/Mascara match the following week which got scuttled, or if this was just usual a CMLL random finish.

Quien es “Psyco Ripper”?

Heck if I know.

Theory #1: Psyco Ripper is a current CMLL luchador getting a new name.

CMLL usually keeps people who are getting new characters away for around a month, so they’re forgotten a bit before they show up with the new name. A list of male luchadors who’ve been away for at least two weeks (number is days since last match.)

14 Mr. Águila
14 Bengala
14 Cholo
21 Morphosis
21 Ramstein
21 Robin
21 Leono
21 Apocalipsis
39 Rey Bucanero – out hurt
49 Inquisidor
49 Diamante
53 Psicosis II
95 Skandalo – out hurt, but I put him here so you wouldn’t ask

I’m thinking Cholo is not getting a midcard gimmick, as much as the Cholo fan club might dream. We can rule out Ramstein, Robin, Leono, Apocalispis and Inquisidor for similar reasons. Mr. Aguila and Rey Bucanero are not getting new characters at this point of their career. Morphosis obviously would like to be Histeria and it seems unlikely he’ll change names outside of going back to that name. That leaves two names:

Psicosis II – Psyco Ripper is not far off and it’s always possible he lost the rights to the name. It’s also possible someone decided they couldn’t put him in a credible mask match with that name but maybe thought a new one would work. The problem here is he’s in Puebla Monday under the Psicosis name, but CMLL internal confusion is not new.

Diamante – went home seven weeks ago and hasn’t been heard from since. Diamante’s career has nose dived since he took up the El Santo outfit. There’s a half dozen tecnicos who’ve passed him on the pecking order and he’s regressed in the ring. CMLL was high enough on Diamante to feature him on the first FantasticaManias, so maybe there’s still someone who holds him in enough esteem to give him a new chance as a rudo. It may not work, but it’s not hard to try.

Theory #2:  Psyco Ripper is a new person

Trainee? Family member who is getting a spot to make other family members happy? A Black Abyss-like indy guy getting a good spot here? (Unlikely.) A foreigner? (More unlikely.) There are a lot of possibilities. Most of them aren’t likely to be any good.

Psyco Ripper will be revealed tomorrow if he’s a new person. Any new guy who’s important enough to jump right into the midcard will certainly be required to be at the crazily important bodybuilding contest, and is probably a participant. That seems to be how CMLL works.

Theory #3:  Psyco Ripper is a Trojan horse for Dr. Wagner Jr.’s invasion of Arena Mexico

[head explodes]

11/16-18 lucha videos

No IWL this week. Friday Terra recording was pretty wrecked. Last week’s UTDN is running late due to internet issues. Extra IWRG aired on AYM previously.


11/16 WWC:
11/17 WWC: – interrupted briefly by severe weather alert

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-11-03 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Dragón Celestial, Fulgor II, Imposible vs Ciclón Black, Douki, Guerrero Mixtico

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-09
taped 2013-11-07 @ Arena Naucalpan
Full show:
1) Alfa, Hip Hop Man, Omega vs Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Electro Boy
2) Dragón Celestial, Mr. Leo, Seiya vs Douki, Anubis Black, Fulgor II
3) Chico Che, Golden Magic, Relámpago vs Canis Lupus, Imposible, Saruman
4) Dr. Cerebro, Toscano, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, X-Fly

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-15
taped 2013-11-15 @ Arena Mexico
1) Metálico & Molotov vs Disturbio & Espanto Jr. – last few minutes only.
4) Titán vs Boby Zavala in a lightning match

AAA on Televisa: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-03 @ Domo de Parque Solidaridad, Tonala, Jalisco
1) Angélico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans vs Eterno, Juventud Guerrera, Steve Pain
2) El Mesías vs AJ Styles [TNA HEAVY]

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-05 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Full Show:
1) La Máscara, Rush, Shocker vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys
taped 2013-11-10 @ Arena Coliseo
2) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky vs Niebla Roja, Pierroth, Tama Tonga
3) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-12 @ Arena Mexico
1) Metatrón & Sensei vs Akuma & Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Bam Bam, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
3) Estrellita, Goya Kong, Marcela vs Amapola, La Seductora, Princesa Blanca
Stellar Moments
4) Ángel de Oro, Super Porky, Thunder vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
History Capsule: La Fiera
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Volador Jr.

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-08 @ Arena Mexico
1) Máximo vs Rey Escorpión in a lightning match
2) La Máscara & Rush vs Tama Tonga & Terrible for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship
3) Atlantis, La Sombra, Shocker vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Lucha Azteca (CMLL): 2013-11-16
taped 2013-10-11 @ Arena Mexico
Full Show:
1) Máximo, Super Porky, Valiente vs Comandante Pierroth, Ephesto, Rey Escorpión
2) Titán vs Averno in a lightning match

3) La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Tama Tonga, Terrible

CMLL Puebla: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-04 @ Arena Puebla
Full Show:
1) Meyer & Tigre Rojo vs Guerrero Negro Jr. & Herodes Jr.
2) Asturiano, Leono, Robin vs Fuerza Chicana, Inquisidor, Siki Ozama Jr.
3) Marcela vs Dalys for the CMLL World Women’s Championship
4) Máximo & Super Porky vs Felino & Puma
5) La Máscara, Rush, Vangellys vs Negro Casas, Shocker, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match
6) La Sombra vs Volador Jr.

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-17 @ Arena Mexico
Intro (Dark Angel)
1) Acero & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Warrior
2) Magnus, Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Camorra, Hijo del Signo, Nosferatu
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tritón vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Nitro
4) Dark Angel vs Dalys in a lightning match
5) Rey Cometa, Super Porky, Thunder vs Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.
6) La Sombra, Titán, Valiente vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-14 @ Arena Naucalpan
Full Show:
1) Alfa & Omega vs Atomic Star & Electro Boy
2) Dragón Celestial, Látigo, Mr. Leo vs Anubis Black, Douki, Imposible
3) Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus
4) Trauma I, Trauma II, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, Súper Nova

La Lucha se la Hace, aired on Mexicanal 2013-11-17
taped 2013?-??-??
Full Show:
1) El Infiel, Fuego de Plata vs Destructor Jr., Daemon
2) Senor Dante vs Drack Conde
3) Brujo Cosmico Jr., El Baron, Rayo de Plata IV vs El Esta Bien, Leopardo, Vagabundo
4) Huracan Ramirez, Ciclon Ramirez Jr., Rayo de Plata Jr. vs Fishman Jr., Espectro Jr., Sabu Jr.

Noches de Coliseo: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-12 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Coyote Jr. & Pedro Navajas vs Flecha & Muerte Guerrera
2) Cirio Negro I, Cirio Negro II, Rey Demonio Jr. vs Baby Power, Super Jack, Xtreme Boy
3) Sexy Maciel & Sexy Piscis vs Genocida & Mr. Cuervo
taped 2013-11-10 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
4) Bengali, Genocida, Heddi Karaoui vs Difunto I, Gato Fantasma, Super Jack

Rush defeats Shocker, Wagner/Niebla, Shu/Navarro, EAW, Atlantis on WON HOF

WCS (SUN) 11/10/2013 Coliseo Coacalco [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), El Pancracio]
1) Látigo & Vega Boy b Cáncer & Sacristán del Diablo
2) Belial, Fulgor, Terremoto, Tornado (DF) b Aramis, Epidemia, Hijo del Angel, Ztizan
an XMW vs Coacalco match, Terremoto beat Ztizan.
3) Ojo de Tigre Jr. & Violent Wotan b Arez & Impulso and Metaleon & Mr. Leo and Angel Celestial & Silver Storm
Wotan & Ojo beat Arez & Impulso. Metaleon and Leo are the Lion Brothers.
4) Jaque Mate, Jaque Mate Jr., Tsunami (Coacalco) b Huracan Ramirez, Huracan Ramirez Jr., Ultraman
5) Black Terry b Black Warrior
Warrior explained after his match he was retired from CMLL, but not from lucha libre.
6) Shu el Guerrero b Negro Navarro [UWF SM] highlights (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
originally listed as UWF, no weight class, then revealed to be Shu’s Super Middleweight Championship. Shu submitted Negro Navarro to defend the belt.

Debut show for the promotion. Main event sounds good.

EAW (SUN) 11/17/2013 Centro de Usos Multiples, Hermosillo, Sonora [El Imparcial]
1) Dark Crow, Embajador del Infierno, Misterio de la Muerte b Herson Kid, Meican Wolf, Sagrado Misterio Jr.
2) Bello Juan, Rey Centella, Sexy Alan b Mario Mora, Templario, Wily Cortez
3) Murua Kid & Sol de Oriente b Yako & Yako Jr.
4) Chico Che, Extreme Tiger, Laredo Kid b Estruendo, Tron, Xcalibur
5) Máscara Dorada & Máximo b Animaniac & Lizmark Jr.
6) Hijo de Rey Misterio II, Mistico, Villano III b Latherface, Rey Escorpion (CMLL), Shocker
Shocker replaced Atlantis and sides were changed. Mistica on Rey Escorpion for the win

Only show with results from the EAW, though there are video clips of other shows here and here. Rey Escorpion ended up on the rudo side and the shows do not seem to have drawn well, as expected.

CMLL (SUN) 11/17/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Fuego en el Ring]
1) Aéreo & Fantasy b Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
Pierrothito replaced Nitro.
2) Oro Jr. & Stigma b Boby Zavala & Disturbio
Straight falls for the the tecnicos.
3) Canis Lupus b Guerrero Maya Jr. [IWRG IC WELTER]
Canis Lupus’s first defense. AAA’s Eterno was Lupus’ second, rudo Disturbio was tecnico Maya’s second. Both seconds eventually got thrown out for interfering too much. Maya took the first with his suastica variant, Canis took the second with a reinera, and the third with a nudo to keep the title. Money thrown in after the match.
4) Black Terry, Negro Navarro, Satánico b Blue Panther, Solar I, Super Astro
Brazo de Oro was referee, and argued with Satanico after the rudos won. Satanico attacked Brazo de Oro and left him laid out on the floor.
5) Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Rush, Valiente
La Mascara replaced Marco Corleone (out hurt.) Rudos took 1/3, the last when everyone (but Niebla) was distracted by the arrival of Dr. Wagner, and Niebla fouled Mascara to get the pin. Niebla and Wagner had a 15 minute argument post match (and everyone else left?)

Putting everything else aside – and you’d have to find a pretty big aside to put it all – Mr. Niebla versus Dr. Wagner Jr. is an infinitely more doable mask match than LA Park versus Mr. Niebla. I don’t think that’s actually happening here, but I’m sure it’s been suggested.

They’re not using the Furor name for these shows any more (though it’s the same group behind them; they just don’t have a name.) Weird to see Eterno slip thru; I’d imagine CMLL pays so little attention to AAA that they didn’t even realize he was on AAA TV now.

CMLL (MON) 11/18/2013 Arena Puebla [Cinco Radio, El Popular]
1) Águila Egipcia & Bengala b Akrón & Cholo
2) Pierrothito & Saurón b Asturiano & Blue Center
Blue Center replaced Bam Bam.
3) Cancerbero, Fuerza Chicana, Raziel b Metálico, Pegasso, Tigre Rojo Jr.
Raziel beat Pegasso.
4) Kráneo, Olímpico, Psicosis b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma
Camorra drove all the way to Puebla just to distract Stigma into a loss. That’s dedication.
5) La Máscara, Titán, Valiente DQ Averno, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla
Niebla stole Valiente’s mask for the DQ. Averno and Titan continued their feud from Sunday.
6) Rush b Shocker
Rush jumped Shocker on the way to the ring, but lost the first fall. (That seems to happen a lot here.) Rush took fall two with a suplex and snuck in a foul in the third.

Tonight’s CMLL Arena Mexico show has Mascara Dorada defending the NWA Welterweight Championship against Volador Jr. In CMLL Gaceta quotes, Dorada wants a mask vs hair match regardless of the outcome, while Volador thinks they should just combine the stips in this match to get it out of the way. (CMLL Gaceta also warns this match may cause cardiac problems.) CMLL title changes in the summer are planned around the Universal tournament, and CMLL title changes in the late fall seem similarly planned around the FantasticaMania tour. Both guys are on that tour, but a title change tonight could be the set up for a rematch (and another title change) in January. This is a pretty even match which always leads me to take the status quo, but you should not be surprised if the NWA Welterweight title changes hands tonight.

The rest of the card is a toss up at best. There was a good sounding Diamante Azul, Delta & Titan versus Hijos del Averno match on the card, but Mephisto and Averno are now replaced by Terrible & Pierroth. (Dalys also replaces Comandante.) Luchadors in tomorrow’s bodybuilding contest will probably be more focused on whatever they need to get into peak shape for that and not as much on tonight’s matches.

Over in Guadalajara, Sombra faces Ultimo Guerrero in his last match before the NJPW tag team tournament.

photo by Eric

Ultimo Guerrero and Atlantis were among the luchadors working a show in New York this weekend. Reader Eric got to talk to Atlantis at the show:

I told him that he was in the Observer HOF. He was amazed on how well he did in the voting in comparison to Villano 3, LA Park, Blue Panther, etc. He said a mask VS. mask match with Ultimo Guerrero is going to happen, hinted possibly in March.

At least they still think the mask match is happening.

AAA has the second and third part of their interview with Mesias.

Tinieblas Jr., Oriental, and Mascara Jr. defeated PirataMorgan, Hijo de LA Park (sub for Wagner III), and Hijo del Medico Asesino in the main event of the Arena Azteca Budokan 52nd anniversary match.

Holkan and Yakuza continue to build to a mask match in Arena Lopez Mateos.

No IWRG Sunday lineup yet, but they say it’ll be a Caravana de Campeons show. They may not have announced it because Thursday could be setting the title matches – Douki/Celestial versus Impossible for the lightweight, Golden Magic versus Canis Lupus for the Welterweight, FdT and/or Veneno & Alan Etreme for the tag team title. Dinamic Black isn’t going to be back, so they could vacate that title and have a title match. Piratas haven’t been around so probably not that trios titles (or the middleweight), but maybe the Gringos title?

Hijo de Rey Misterio, Xtreme Tiger, Niebla Roja, Dragon Rojo, and Cassandro are billed as appearing in Atlanta on 12/15

DJ Spectro has a bio of Gran Markus

I got a notice from Comcast that El Rey will launch on my cable system on 12/19. It should be around that time for other Comcast customers. At last word, AAA programming wasn’t expected to be on the channel until spring 2014.


CMLL CHOLO TJ (THU) 11/21/2013 Auditorio de Tijuana
1) ? vs ??
2) ? vs ??
3) Tony Casanova & Venum Black vs X-Torm & Zarco [LA TAG]
no champions listed
4) Camaleon De Oro & Hijo de Lizmark vs Memo Velazques & Super Kendo and El Pulpo & Espectro and Rubi Gardenia & Septiembre Negro [ruleta de la muerte]
5) Brazo de Oro, La Máscara, Mistico vs Histeria, Oriental, Rey Escorpión

Rare Thursday show in Tijuana. Non-rare Mistico/Escorpion match.

CMLL (MON) 11/25/2013 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer & Paris vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Black Tiger, Milenium, Pegasso vs Blue Center, Camorra, Hijo del Signo
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Psicosis
4) La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Tercera is a rematch from this week. At least Camorra gets a match this week. More Artillero/Comando.

CMLL (SAT) 11/30/2013 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Aéreo & Astral vs Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito
2) Dallys la Caribeña & Estrellita vs Princesa Blanca & Tiffany
3) Dinamic Black, Flyer, Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus, Centvrión, Freelance
4) Máscara Dorada, Titán, Tritón vs Euforia, Puma, Tiger
5) Máximo, Rush, Super Porky vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

R de Rudo says this is another Brazo de Plata anniversary show. 3/4 look like a lot of fun if those guys want to have a good match on a Saturday match. This lineup had to be put together long enough ago where Dallys as a tecnica made sense, so Demus’ appearance is probably a hopeful outcome and not confirmed.