Valiente vs Utlimo Guerrero, IWL triple masks vs masks/hair, Maya vs Lupus, Lobo/Flamita to DG

FC (SAT) 10/12/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Idolo & Javier Cruz Jr. b Acertijo & El Yaki
tecnicos took 1/3.
2) El Divino, El Hippie I, El Hippie II b Demonio Maya, Demonio Rojo, Jocker
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Évola & Sádico b Leo & William Rock
William Rock’s debut. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Espectrum, Infierno, Maléfico b Halcón de Plata, Sky Kid, Smaker
rudos took 2/3, Infierno sneaking in a foul on Sky Kid
5) Black Metal, Gallo, Súper Perdura b Bárbaro Cavernario, Maléfico, Ráfaga
Super Perdura is a sponsored character. Tecnicos took 2/3

Rare sponsored show in Guadalajara. Sponsor appeared to be a local hardware store.

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SUN) 10/13/2013 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Molotov & Sensei b Espanto Jr. & Ramstein
Sensei had a white gi. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Metálico, Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Camorra, Canelo Casas, Disturbio
Camorra and Stigma continue to feud. Camorra beat Stigma in the first and third (cleanly), only losing the second by excessive violence DQ.
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo del Fantasma b Misterioso Jr., Namajague, Shigeo Okumura
Tecnicos took falls 2/3 in a good match. Delta & Maya beat Okumura & Namajague in the third, then challenged for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Titles. Fiebre Amarilla did not really answer.
4) Vangellys b Tritón [lightning]
Originally scheduled to be Sangre Azteca, but Vangelis replaced him (and the match was elevated a spot) on Monday. Vangellys caught Triton trying a handspring and German suplexed him for a win. Vangellys had his shoulders on the mat for the three count, but the referee did not call it (or notice.)
5) Mistico, Thunder, Valiente DQ Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
UG pulled Valiente’s mask for the DQ after ripping it up during the match. The two talked about a singles match next week.
6) Ephesto, Mephisto, Volador Jr. b Atlantis, La Máscara, Máximo
Originally announced as Dragon Rojo, but changed to Ephesto on Monday. Maximo subbed for Titan the day of the show (mentioned at the start.) Rudos took 1/3.

CMLL (SUN) 10/13/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) William Rock b Furia Nazi
Bonus match. Furia Nazi (or at least A Furia Nazi) hasn’t appeared here since 2006.
2) El Piraña & El Yaki b Brillante & Metalik
Yaki replaced Samael. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) El Divino & Halcón de Plata b Ángel del Mal & Demonio Rojo
Angel del Mal’s first match since January 2012. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Black Metal, Leo, Smaker b Demonio Maya, Espectrum, Magnum
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Fuego, Gallo, Rey Cometa DQ Bárbaro Cavernario, Exterminador, Maléfico
Tecniso took 2/3. Barbaro and Fuego feuded, and Barbaro was caught fouling Fuego in the third.
6) Rey Bucanero & Tama Tonga b Rush & Titán
Titan replaced Maximo (who swapped places with him in Coliseo.) Tag champs took 1/3, Tonga sneaking a foul on Rush thanks to a Bucanero distraction.

Tama and Rush continue to have controversial finishes. They may be good against each other, but Rush occupied with Tama Tonga means Rush isn’t going to be resolving things with Negro Casas or Shocker any time soon. Luchadors who return in Arena Coliseo a long absence usually find themselves quickly into mask feuds, but there’s no set up of that sort with Angel del Mal. Furia Nazi must be either a trainer working one of his students or a new guy under an old name.

No full results from Naucalpan tonight, but they did set up a Guerrero Maya vs Canis Lupus match for the IWRG IC Welterweight Championship on the next Furor show. That’ll be on 11/17.

Tercera Caida aired matches from the third ChilangaMask show, including Black Terry vs Guerrero Maya and and Valiente & Virus vs Los Traumas.

AAA announced a couple post Heroes Inmortales TV tapings this weekend. They’ll be in Tonala, Jalisco on 11/03 and back in Queretaro on 11/15. That gap says Tonala will be a double taping. Queretaro should start airing the weekend of 11/23 as everything is currently laid out. On the other side, the WON reported Guerra de Titanes is tentatively planned for 12/07. That would mean only one or two tapings after Queretaro before the next major show.

weeks of build up (or weeks since last major show)
Rey de Reyes 2013: 9 weeks
TripleMania 2013: 12 weeks
Heroes Inmortales 2013: 15 weeks (though pre-empted 1 week)
Guerra de Titanes: 5 weeks

Guerra de Titanes could end up a week or two later, but it’s still going to be the shortest build by far.

Battle Campal was giving away tickets to the WWE Queretaro show. 25 sets of 2, which seems like a lot. They’re not the only ones giving tickets away. Ticketmaster is selling the Guadalajara show, and it looks like 4 tickets in the second row are still available. They’ve got a buy 3 get 1 free deal there. It seems better in Mexico City, where there are no blocks of 4 on the floor, but up in the first section of the bleachers. This is a weak show WWE is sending to Mexico, as discussed on the podcast, and it feels like the fans have reacted more to the lineup than the long time before a return. The usual caveats apply – most tickets will be sold day of the show and there’s still plenty of time – but it seems very possible WWE might get some weak turnouts for these shows, which might affect plans going forward.

There’s still no clarification about Rey Misterio’s status – these are going to be his first matches anywhere back, if he really going to be back. I wonder what the fans would chant if Rey didn’t wrestle.

CMLL lists two changes for Tuesday’s card. Acero makes his first Mexico City appearance since May to replace Bam Bam, while Metalico replaces Sensei in the opener. Sensei was obviously fine enough to wrestle on Sunday, so it may just be scheduling issues.

SuperLuchas #511 has Heroes Inmortales, WWE (ticket giveway) and Dr. Wagner on the cover.

DJ Spectro looks back at the 1978 year end show, which (like the 80th anniversary show) had one title match, one hair match and one mask match. In related news, they were worried about El Toreo competition.

LuchaWorld has 20 to 11 in their top 2012 Countdown and KrisZ’s news update from Saturday.

Lucha Libre in Japan

According to the Super Libre Facebook, Valiente says he’s going to Japan from 10/13 to 11/07. That matches up with the next NJPW tour (though not the iPPV at the end, oddly.) Valiente is not the name I hinted would be going next – I think my info was correct at the time, but plans have been delayed or changed. I will explain this better at some later point, though it may take until FantasticMania (who’s dates ought to be announced soon.) It’s also possible there are just multiple CMLL people going on the same tour; it probably should be made clear after NJPW’s show in a few hours.

Funcion Estelar has an interview with Rocky Lobo, who confirms he and Flamita are going to Dragon Gate. They’ll head to Japan on 10/19 and return on 12/23. Jae figures their first show will be either part of PRIME ZONE 11 (10/25) or the 10/26 show. It appears Lobo & Flamita are going in as friends of Eita & crew, but I would presume a Flamita versus Tomahawk match for the DTU Alto Impacto championship takes place at some point some how.

Zeuxis and Vaquerita defend the REINA tag team titles on 11/02.

You know, you could probably book a decent show of all Mexico based luchadors in Japan in the next month. Super Crazy & Pesadilla versus Rocky Lobo & Flamita, Zeuxis & Vaquerita vs Chik Tormenta & Dark Angel, Valiente versus Hijo del Pantera…okay, maybe half a show. Ran out of steam there, but it’s still a dozen.

NJPW’s hung up the posters with Tanahashi from his trip to Mexico, which means they did a better job of keeping track of their souvenirs than me.

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Lineups

DTU (TUE) 10/15/2013 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Rex vs CalibiusJhonkyOptimus
2) Lanzeloth vs LacadonÁngel del MisterioArtikus
3) Chica Ye-Ye & Demente Extreme vs Dulce Kanela & Golden Boy
4) Septimo Dragon vs KalethBlack FireRocky LoboRey CelestialPequeno Cobra
5) Drastik Boy & Flamita vs Aero Boy & Violento Jack
6) Dance Boy & X-Fly vs Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Crazy King & Miedo Extremo
7) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider vs Hooligan Byron & Kaientai and Cíclope & Sick Boy

DTU + Monterrey = possibly craziest show. Main event is electric – like, something will be electrified. This is announced lineup/event #8 for DTU in October. OcDTUober?

CMLL (SUN) 10/20/2013 Arena Coliseo
1) Astral & Stukita vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Metatrón, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Camorra, Espanto Jr., Guerrero Negro Jr.
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Boby Zavala, Hooligan, Namajague
4) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Thunder vs Misterioso Jr., Mr. Niebla, Pierroth
5) Valiente vs Último Guerrero
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Shocker vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

Shocker keeps getting listed, hope he can make one of these. I wonder if the Arena Coliseo crowd will react differently to Sombra than the Arena Mexico one. Valiente & UG is standard three falls match. Good for CMLL to make it easy for me to figure out exactly when I should step away to make dinner. Odd no Okumura in the tercera for storyline purposes, awesome for the guys who are there instead. Camorra versus Stigma keeps going. Pequeno Universo keeps getting booked.

IWL (SAT) 12/14/2013 Gimnasio Juan De La Barrera
1) Concord, Medic 1, Medic 3, Mr. Zebra vs Babel, Brazo Jr., Gotita de Plata, Kid Jaguar, Pinocho 3000
listed as 4 on 5, probably missing a name.
2) Holocausto, Infierno, Ojo Diabólico Jr., Sepulturero I vs Arkanos, Kilvan, Shadow, Yoruba and Atm 1, Atm 2, Atm 3, Atm 4
ATM team is listed as Nueva ATM, unclear which ATM members are on teh team
3) Zumbido vs Último VampiroFresero Jr.Último GladiadorFlamitaTony RiveraEmo ExtremeDinamik BlackCentinelaExtreme TigerDecnnisQuimico Jr.Corcel Infernal [20000 pesos, TLC]
a brieface with 20000 pesos will hang above the ring. Lineup says Maldito Jr. may replace Xtreme Tiger
4) el Ángel, León, Ovett, Perico vs Aero Boy, Demente Extreme, Hormiga, Violento Jack [IWL ATOMICOS]
Los Porros hold the Trios titles, which are apparently now the Atomicos titles (or maybe they have those seperately?)
5) Súper Muñeco, Súper Pinocho, Súper Ratón vs Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera [hair, mask, WWA Trios]
whoever is champion at this point – currently Secta Negra – will put the titles on the line in addition to all the masks/hair
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Canek & Canek Jr. and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan and Hijo de LA Park & LA Park [IWL DINASTIA]
new championship

Lineup here. IWL seemed like the Tlalnepantla Convention Center building was way too big for them. They must believe differently, because they’re running the building TxT has had trouble half filling. However, IWL managed to get the Super Muneco/Trio Fantasia mask match TxT was clearly building towards but couldn’t get done. It’s not listed as the main event but will probably turned out to be the biggest draw. (Possible both Carta Bravas could be unmasked in the same month, which might solve that problem.)

40% chance IWL forgot they gave out trios titles and honestly believe Los Porros are Atomicos champions. 60% chance they had IWL Atomicos belts made at some point and just gave them to Angel o Demonio.

Escorpion & Porky, Dallys & Marcela, Castillo del Terror, EAW

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (FRI) 10/11/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL on Terra]
1) Astral & Eléctrico b Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
Tecnicos took 1/3. Astral had many bad spots.
2) Dallys la Caribeña, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit b Goya Kong, Marcela, Silueta
Dallys may now be “Dallys la Gladiadora” – announcers used that name. She’s got a new dark look, black hair with blue highlights and a gladiator helmet. Marcela welcomed her to the ruda side by hitting her very hard, including spiking her on the second fall Michinoku Driver. Third fall came down to the feuding two, Marcela double stomping Dallys but Dallys kicking out, then using a double underhook suplex for the win. Dallys challenged for Marcela’s title.
3) Gran Guerrero, Misterioso Jr., Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Fuego, Stuka Jr.
Originally announced with Ephesto, Misterioso replaced him on Monday. Rudos took 1/3 in the usual match with most of these guys. Gran Guerrero fit in fine.
4) Averno b Titán [lightning]
Originally announced with Mascara Dorada. Titan replaced him on Monday. Titan took a lot of the match, but Averno (again) threw him into the barricade on a tope, then pinned him with one hand in about seven minutes. Titan needed medical attention after the match, which didn’t stop Averno from unmasking him.
5) Comandante Pierroth, Ephesto, Rey Escorpión DQ Máximo, Super Porky, Valiente
Dragon Rojo was originally announced, but replaced by Ephesto on Monday. Maximo & Super Porky were DQed for excessive violence on Rey Escorpion – specifically, closed fists, which will be legal next week.
6) Rey Bucanero, Tama Tonga, Terrible b La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Rush
Rudos were wearing their TRT gear (where appropriate), but were wearing Bullet Club t-shirts and referred to as Bullet Club Latinoamerica. It appears Tonga beat Rush for the deciding pin.

Rush & Tama Tonga seem to be paired up at the moment. I’m not a huge fan of the Bullet Club idea because it continues the trend of CMLL treating itself like a NJPW minor league, but it does solve the problem of figuring out which letter Vangelis is in TRT.

There’s a story going around that referee Rafael el Maya has left CMLL. It’s said he left on good terms. We ran into Rafael el Maya on the first day we were in Arena Mexico. He had found out he was left off the Anniversary show and was headed into Arena Mexico to talk to Paco Alonso about it. He didn’t seem angry, but didn’t understand the decision. In the end, CMLL used seven referees on the 80th Anniversary show, and he was the eight left off. Maya’s better than some of the ones they used and it’s a shame he’s leaving.

Jack Evans, Faby Apache and Taya visited patients at a hospital before Thursday’s show

AAA will have a webchat with Perro Aguayo Jr. on Monday. The first part of their interview with Faby Apache is up.

Porra Fresa previews Monday’s card.

“Mini Scorpio Jr.” is instructing a lucha libre school in Chimalhuacan, though it would have to be Scorpio Jr. based on the info they give for him and the picture (or someone’s making up facts.)

Tinieblas Jr. talks about his career, explains OCESA/WWE followed his model of promoting when they came to Mexico.

EAW – the double ring group – says they’re coming back in November to run shows in Baja California and Sonora. It’s very boastful and critical piece for a promotion which hasn’t run a show in a year and a half (and hasn’t run many successful ones ever.)

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 10/18/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Diamante, Fuego, Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sangre Azteca
2) Ángel de Oro, Máximo, Stuka Jr. vs Terrible, Tiger, Vangellys
3) Marcela vs Dallys la Caribeña [CMLL WOMEN]
Marcela is champion. Ninth defense.
4) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
5) Super Porky vs Rey Escorpión [hair, super libre plus]
6) Rey Bucanero & Tama Tonga vs La Máscara & Rush [CMLL TAG]
Tama Tonga & Rey Bucanero are champions. First defense

CMLL did everything but give the show a special name – or one of the Shocker/Negro/Rush or UG/Atlantis apuesta matches. It’s compelling if you’re interested in CMLL, though I’m still not sure it’s going to draw anyone away from the WWE show. (WWE’s doing that themselves.) The most recent show with two title matches was on 2012-04-10, with Bucanero/Maximo and Pierrothito/Electrico. (No hint of that last one happening again any time soon based on last night.)

Mascara & Rush are already the national trios champions and it’s unusual for a team to end up with two different sets of team titles at once. (There’s no sign of a trios title match coming up to balance things, too.) Again, this may be the start of a longer issue for Rush & Tonga.

This same setup – teaming with Marcela, getting angry on Marcela, turning on Marcela, and asking for a shot at Marcela’s title – is how Princesa Blanca won the national women’s championship. It would be disappointing if history repeats itself, because Dallys being declared the best luchadora in CMLL kind of makes a mockery of the whole thing.

IWRG (SUN) 11/03/2013 Arena Naucalpan
***Castillo del Terror, 2013***
1) Mini Multifacetico & Voladorcito vs Bracito De Plata & Mini Canis Lupus
2) Dragón Celestial, Fulgor I, Imposible vs Ciclón Black, Guerrero Mixtico, Karate Kid
FILL vs Rivera
3) Dr. Cerebro, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Trauma I vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Decnnis, Fuerza Guerrera
4) Tony Rivera vs Bombero Infernal [hair]
5) Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Carta Brava Jr.Alan ExtremeCanis LupusTrauma IIGolden MagicRelámpagoCentvriónOficial 911Picudo Jr. [Castillo del Terror, mask, cage]
ten minute minimum.

Not clear candidates to lose the cage match. I guess 911 is the favorite, but not by much. It’s very possible Carta Brava Jr. will eventually get a new character in AAA so he could always lose his old one but that’s no sure thing.  I feel like the hair match is pretty clear how it’ll go, but not the main event.

IWRG, Tama Tonga in CMLL, marathon show

IWRG (THU) 10/10/2013 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG]
1) Araña de Plata Jr. b Seiya
One fall.
2) Fulgor I & Fulgor II b Alfa & Omega
3) Alan Extreme, Canis Lupus, Fresero Jr. b Centvrión, Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic
4) Trauma I, Trauma II, Veneno DQ Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro
Tecnicos took 1/3. 911 faked a foul in the second, Trauma II in the third.
5) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Toscano b El Hijo del Medico Asesino, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., X-Fly
Tecnicos took 1/3.

There are very limited pictures, but I did not see a TV camera in any of them. That would mean Sunday is the taping. Again, Sunday’s show is a CMLL/Furor production, next Thursday is an AAA/RCH show, so IWRG proper is not back until 10/20.

Today’s CMLL show is based around the returning Rey Bucanero & Tama Tonga, teaming up with Terrible against La Sombra, Marco Corleone and tag challenger Rush. Tonga arrived a couple days ago, and said he and Bucanero are on the same page and he doesn’t care who challenges for the tag team titles. In the undercard, Brazo de Plata and Rey Escorpion face off one more time before their hair match, Dallys starts on the ruda side, and Titan versus Averno appears to be the TV main event.

Turnout might be down from usual; the Mexican National Futbol Team has a critical home game versus Panama which starts the same time as this show. CMLL is doing a 2×1 deal for anyone with a Mexican team jersey – you have to wear a green jersey, and you get a seat in the green section. That might be a cool visual, though I’d think if you were excited enough to wear a jersey you’d probably rather go watch the game.

The Mexico City Box Y Lucha Libre commission is sponsoring an eight hour marathon show, where the price of ticket is 50 pesos worth of hurricane relief donation. CMLL, IWRG, AULL and anyone other promotion they can find will be participating. I would so go to this show, start to get bored around hour four, then get way into it around hour six.

The fourth episode of DTU TV is up.

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10/10 AAA TV Results (Tlahuelilpan)

photo by Black Terry Jr.

AAA TV (THU) 10/10/2013 Plaza de Toros Jorge Guiterrez, Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Lucha Libre AAA]
1) Dinastía, Faby Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba, Mini Charly Manson, Taya Valkyrie
Faby submitted Taya. Cuervo was hanging out near ringside during the match and attacked her after. Faby fought him off but the rest of La Secta attacked. Cuervo asked Taya if she’d like to take Faby’s hair, and suggested they challenge for the mixed tag titles.
2) Angélico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans b Daga, Psicosis, Steve Pain
Moved to the second. Australian Suicide was the mystery person, as usual, and was welcomed to AAA by taking Psicosis staples to the chest. Gringos hit their usual move on Steve Pain for the win.
3) Fénix & Octagón b Eterno & Pentagón Jr.
Moved to the third. Fenix landed a tornillo on Eterno.
4) Cuervo, Espíritu, Ozz, Scoria b Cibernético, El Mesías, Electroshock, La Parka
La Secta beat Cibernetico via foul after Faby ran in (and was no help.)
5) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Texano Jr. [cage]
Made a cage match. Order of escape was Monsther, Silver, Murder, Mascara and Psycho gave Texano a Canadian Destroyer to escape. La Secta attacked Psycho Circus after the match and challenged for the trios titles.

Air Date: 10/19. This looks like a one show taping, which usually means only the top 4 air on UTDN – but they ran that angle in the opener so maybe they find a way to air all five? Or maybe one of 2/3 gets cut.

La Secta running over everyone on this taping (though I’d be surprised if the semiman wasn’t 75% the tecnicos getting all their usual spots, because that’s just the way they’re going to work these matches.) AAA continues to build to Guerra de Titanes, which is great except for Heroes Inmortales being next Friday.

Happy to see a new direction for Psycho Circus. It does seem to imply something about the title match next Friday.

Rare sighting of the six sided ring! Not sure if they needed it just for the cage or just pure randomness.