03/02-03 lucha times

box. This isn’t on the list, but Tercera Caida has been moved to Saturday again this week, airing at 9:30 AM.

== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: Last week’s episode shows clips of the opener from Irapuato, so that and the trios title match. It seems like the newest pattern is to show a third match only on the UTDN show (on Thursdays) – maybe that’ll be the Apaches/Atomic Boy match?

AAA-Fusion: Today’s episode – show seems to be moved to Thursdays – showed both Fusion tournament matches so far. If AAA is announcing the Rey de Reyes card next week (good chance!) and if the Fusion tournament final is on Rey de Reyes (unclear chance!), then they’d probably want to air the other two four ways as soon as possible, and this week’s episode gave the impression that would be next week.

== CMLL ==

Galavision/Televisa: Namajague/Okumura vs Stuka/Cometa is a Televisa feud, lightning match usually ends up here too, and the Tuareg match always oddly ends up here too. I wonder if guys get paid differently based on which network airs their matches; that would start to explain some choices.

FOX: This seems to be the Volador/Sombra show, and the main event ends up here by default. Fox Deportes US has updated it’s schedule – it looks like every episode of this show will air, but almost never on Saturdays. Some episodes will air on Sundays, some episodes will be pushed to the following Friday. (That’s the deal with the episode airing this Friday, it’s the Sombra vs Volador final which aired in Mexico last Saturday.)

52MX: set up for the Arena Coliseo debut, Mistico’s debut.

C3: Everything airs but the lighting match. Sangre Neuva Block A is the highlight.

GDL: Feed was working Thursday night. They did not air a new episode and may be out of order now, but the usual taping has Averno/Mephisto/Terrible vs Maximo/Shocker/Thunder in the main event, and more of the Cometa/Stuka vs Namajague/Okumura feud.

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Astral vs Olimpico for the minis title, Sombra/Mistico/Thunder vs Kraneo/Psicosis/Volador. The early Monday morning replay seems to be canceled here.

Terra: Arena Coliseo Tag Tema title match, Atlantis/Azul/Mistico vs Niebla/Dragon/Averno.

== Other ==

IWRG-AYM Sports: Latin American Sports, a sister network of AYM Sports, lists Lucha Libre on Sunday evening, the same time the IWRG show airs on AYM. I think they’ve picked up the show (winter baseball is over, spring baseball hasn’t started), but you never know. They did NOT air a new episode last week; this episode should be the mask match if they air live. I really hope the mask match turns up.

IWRG-TVC Deportes: I’ve been a week of here; they’re on an 10 day delay, so this is the week with Mesias and LA Park.

Noches de Coliseo: Seem to be airing 2 matches from Sunday, 2 matches from Tuesday, and 2 matches from who knows.

Dr. Wagner talks (more), Horuz, Villano V press conference, insurance

Dr. Wagner Jr. went to Saltillo to talk to college students about sexually transmitted diseases, and all this article about it wants to talk about is CMLL and AAA. A tremendous disappointment. The only info we get is the name of the program, “Ponte la Mascara”, a program to encourage condom usage. I have so many more questions, and the Wagner/CMLL/AAA thing is not nearly as weird. Dr. Wagner’s new new new new newest story goes this way: AAA wasn’t giving him enough work, so Wagner went to the independents to get some more, and CMLL contacted Wagner for him to come in so he could get some work. (That is not true.) “I don’t know how AAA found out”, says microphone friendly Dr. Wagner. Truly a mystery! Dorian was going to sue Dr. Wagner for a million dollars, so Wagner was forced to cancel his CMLL bookings and serve out his contract until 2014. AAA can’t stop him from working with El Hijo del Santo and Wagner will be working those dates. If Wagner and AAA are now agreeing he’s working with them until 2014, then maybe everyone can stop doing interviews with him about this for 10 months. Wagner might also wrestle for AAA, but I’m less interested in that part.

On his Facebook page, Horuz says he’ll be out about three months due to the knee injury he suffered on Tuesday.

El Fantasma wants CMLL wrestlers to sign up for the new lucha libre insurance plan. Fantasma mentions CMLL will help out wrestlers who’ve been hurt in their rings, but it doesn’t extend to outside the ring and it doesn’t cover their families. If something happens to your family while you’re already out hurt, you’re out of luck, and it’s too late to do anything when you’ve already used up your money paying bills. The insurance he’s offering covers the luchador’s families as well, and Fantasma says the insurance is free. This lucha libre healthy insurance program is a very small part of a greater Mexico City plan to enroll 700,000 uninsured people into free health care programs this year. AAA wrestlers were in attendance at a large event in Arena Ciudad Mexico to push the program.

Villano V/Ray Mendoza Jr. held a press conference for his retirement show yesterday. MedioTiempo and R de Rudo have recaps, and Black Terry Jr. has photos. Villano V explained here that he was retiring because he didn’t want to be a guy who hung around too long and went downhill physically. (Older brother Villano III, also at the press conference, thought that was a good decision but said he’d be wrestling for a while longer.) Villano V mentioned he’d asked CMLL to use their wrestlers, and some had expressed interested, but CMLL did not approve of that idea. Villano V took a shot at El Hijo del Santo’s wife, Gabriela Obregón, referencing the TxT veto and mentioning their money from their show would go to charity. Rayman and Cien Caras Jr. are off that card for that reason, with Heavy Metal and Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. replacing them.

Psycho Circus and Drago were part of a press conference for Sunday’s AAA TV taping. Not much new info. Drago mentions he’d like to face Psicosis, then get a shot at either Daga’s Cruiserweight title or even the DTU Alto Impact championship (currently held by Flamita.)

And another press conference, this one in Tijuana, to hype MV’s show at the Auditorio this Friday. Just pictures, no details.

Lucha Libre USA is starting to officially announce dates and locations for it’s 2013 shows. The first is April 14 in Ontario, South California. People listed for the shows: Blue Demon Jr., RJ Brewer, Jon Rekon (Strong Man), Petey Williams, Stevie Richards, Psicosis (II), Hijo del Fantasma (!), Super Crazy (is everywhere), Super Nova, Lizmark Jr., Mini Park, Pequeno Halloween, Mascara Pupura, Solar, Melina, and Shane Helms.

Sounds like Crazy Boy has been cleared for a return. Congrats to him.

Culinary Backstreets visits El Cuadrilátero, Super Astro’s original restaurant which turns 21 years old this year. I was surprised to find out it still exists, because interviews with Super Astro the last few years have suggested it was gone or at least in new ownership. This article explains it’s owned María Guadalupe Cortés, mentioned as Super Astro’s ex-wife, so that probably explains that. You can still get the giant Gladiador sandwich (or a smaller junior one.)

A few more details on the Monterrey lucha libre exhibit. Orlando Jimenez and Christian Cymet are responsible for the event; this is a traveling exhibit which has been in other locations. There will be panel discussions with Mil Mascaras, Tinieblas, Alushe, Chucho Mar Jr., Galactar, Mr. Line and others. The exhibit will be in el Museo del Noreste until June 30th.

Some CMLL wrestlers are headed to Morelos for a show there this weekend, and so the local promotion announced they’ll be having a Reyes del Aire match. This doesn’t quite work when the luchadors going are Ultimo Guerrero, Taurus, Rey Escorpion and Espanto Jr., not a flyer among them.

DTU is hinting AR Fox will be on their March shows, in that they’re mentioning it’s the CZW TV champion and linking to videos of AR Fox matches, but saving the official announcement until this week’s Tercera Caida. They’re also promising 2 Dragon Gate wrestlers for their 03/16 show in Tulancingo, who are probably Eita & Tomahawk.

Rob has highlights of 12/11/1994 AAA.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

magazine roundup

again, this is some Stuff I Learned;

Box Y Lucha #3110 (cover date 12/24/2012)

  • the cover proclaims “Sin Cara (Antes Mistico), A La Arena Mexico!”. Now, I write about a lot of stuff here, and I forget almost all of it as soon as I’ve written it, but I like to think I’d remember if that one happened. It turns out to be a hilarious Dia de la Inocentes joke, which I’m sure everyone who spent money to buy the magazine thought was funny
  • In an interview with Barbaro Cavernario (Guadalajara) mentions he’d like to team with his brotherm Demonio Maya.
  • the story about Relampago training with Arkangel in hopes to get in CMLL. That one is one I’ve blocked out of my mind.
  • Rey Bucanero talks about his knee injury, say he’s aiming for a March return (which still seems to be the case.) The knee was much more damaged than they thought; he and his doctor expected him to be out only 3-4 weeks, and it’s going to be around 4 months. Bucanero was very disappointed not to go to Japan.
  • Sangre Azteca roots for America.

Box Y Lucha #3113 (cover date 01/14/2013)

  • not a lot of new news. This is the week of Sin Cara’s gym opening and just prior to FantasicaManaia
  • Fresero (both Jr. and Sr.) and Tinieblas Jr. visit the Box Y Lucha office.
  • tease of a In Memoriam/Barbaro vs Esfinge/Smaker match for the vacant Occidente Tag Team titles, which doesn’t seem to have turned out.
  • Oriental says he started his career as ‘Acorazado Moreno’, the same name his father used, for the first two years of his career, his favorite partner was Tsubasa and his favorite rivals were Abismo Negro, La Fiera, and Dynamite Kid.

Box Y Lucha #3114 (cover date 01/21/2013)

  • Headline: “I [Averno] had talks with a North American promotion.” You don’t say! Averno maintains they were only talks, nothing more Averno says 2012 overall was a year of opportunities for him, some exploited, some not so much, but his plans are to be the best rudo in CMLL and make the Hijos de Averno the best trio. Averno talks about his father, Rodolfo Ruiz, who’s been missing from CMLL rings for a while. Averno says says his father had health issues 2.5 months ago, but is doing better and hopes to return to the ring soon. (Averno says Rodolfo would be back at the end of January, which does not appear to have happened, unless they’ve put him in Puebla and I’ve missed him.)
  • Rey Cometa says, despite losing his mask, 2012 was a good year for him – he’s moved up the cards, gotten more opportunities, and is one of the best flyers in the promotion. He’s wants to show that a guy from Queretaro is as a good as anyone from Comarca Lagunera or Guadalajara.
  • Herodes has 15 sons, most professionals in their field. Herodes Jr. and the masked Maquina Asesina are the only luchadors.
  • Guadalajara’s Pirana is originally from Torreon.

Luchas 2000 #655 (cover date 01/21/2013)

  • Karlo Colin talks to Hector Garza’s wife for an update – Hector was hospitalized for pneumonia, but recovered and is back at home. They appreciate all the support
  • lots of push for the Brazos show
  • interview with Alberto Munoz, one of only 7 people to win three different national championships (and possibly the most obscure one). I need to grab this one for the wiki later.
  • Rayo de Jalisco mentions he’s got tours for “Europe, Asia, and Japan” in May or June, but he’s really like to face Canek in a mask match in 2013.
  • Blue Demon mentions he’s only working in Mexico a bit because he’s on TV in the US so much.
  • Perro Aguayo Jr. has plans for lots of shows in 2013, with lots of international talent.
  • Metatron’s goal for 2013: be in Mexico City more.


Box Y Lucha #3115 (cover date 01/28/2013)

  • A cover blurb says Hector Garza is in a fight for his life. You will find no article about Hector Garza in this magazine, but a brief mention of him at the end of the Palqiue Enmascarados column mentioning Hector is stable and fightning.
  • magazine spells it “Thunderbir” in the headline, then “Thunderbird” in the text.
  • Vangelis wants a shot at the world heavyweight title! I’m not sure I’m ready for Terrible vs Vangelis, though imagine if Rush had won that title. He still would like that match for the national light heavyweight title, but it’s not his focus right now.
  • Fenix – who roots for Toluca – says his worst match was the one late last year where he was bizarrely teaming with Amazona & Ludark to face Kristal, Sadica, and Pasion Kristal. Yea, that was a weird one.

SuperLuchas #499 (cover date 02/17/2013)

  • El Fantasma talks about the insurance program. He mentions it’s open to luchadors, boxers, announcers and referees. Fantamsa is asked about the XMW show where Astro de Plata show was hurt, and says it was not sanctioned by him – they had sanctioned the one where his son main evented, but noticed many problems. He read the promoter the riot act after he found out what happened (from Astro de Plata’s family) and the promoter must have an ambulance on hand and a plan to help any injured luchadors if he runs another show. After health insurance, Fantasma’s next goal is working on retirement benefits for the luchadors.
  • A long interview with Konnan. A lot of stuff you’ve heard/seen in English restated for a Mexican audience: he doesn’t not like El Hijo Del Santo or Santo’s comments on Konnan and lays out his case for a page and half.  Konnan agrees that AAA has things to fix: luchadors using language on microphones they shouldn’t use in front of families, not dressing up like stars, rudos acting like tecnicos and a general lack of professionalism. Konnan complains that he and Dorian are doing the jobs of five people from WWE & TNA, the lack of merchandising, people who’ve been around for two years and still don’t know the luchadors or the feuds, and the lack of information on the website. Both Dorian and Konnan are very high on social media, teases the international announcement and feels there needs to be new faces on the top of the card – ‘if you see a poster for four years ago, it looks a lot like today’. Some luchadors need to understand they don’t have to leave, but they do have to move down to make room for new people. In answering criticism about the style of lucha libre, Konnan says people need to stop paying attention to internet people who don’t really know anything. Konnan ends with a long speech about how the economy is growing again and he hopes lucha libre grows with it.

SuperLuchas #500 (cover date 02/24/2013)

  • Congrats on #500! It’s a low key celebration; a lot of the columns talk about it being the 500th edition, but it’s also more of a regular issue than a special edition. There is a nice feature on other lucha magazines which reached 500 and what they were writing about that time.
  • Rush goes third person in an interview, which is so great. He doesn’t have much to say: Rush is never satisfied! Rush thanks his father for teaching him humility! Rush is the best rudo and will continue to give 1000%.
  • Dark Angel, often featured in the magazine, talks about her career interlinked with Monterrey. Her first time on the cover was back when she lost her mask to Princesa Sugheit. Dark Angel feels 2013 will be full of changes, one of which is Angel herself heading to Japan in March to work for Stardom again for 3 months, including a 04/29 show at Sumo Hall. She mentions learning from the people she met in TNA and learning to take herself less seriously, and how she’d like an opportunity in WWE.


Pequeno Olimpico keeps his title, Mr. Leo betrays Konkreto, Soberano advances in Sangre Nueva

CMLL (MON) 02/25/2013 Arena Puebla [Porra Fresa]
Attendance: 1000
1) Asturiano, Black Tiger, Tigre Rojo Jr. b Akron, Blue Center, Saurón
Tecnicos took 1/3 with simultaneous pins in the third.
2) Metálico, Molotov, Pegasso b Hijo del Signo, Hooligan, Taurus
Tecnicos took 1/3. Metalico continued his winning form by submitting Signo.
3) Pequeño Olímpico b Astral [CMLL MINI]
Pequeno Olimpico came in as champ. He took falls 2/3, submitting Astral in the third for his third defense.
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada b Ephesto, Puma, Vangelis
Vangelis replaced Black Warrior. Weird finish to the first fall, where Panther had Ephesto pinned for three, but Ephesto was ruled to have submitted Panther before the three count. Dorada surprised Puma with a torito in the the second. Vangelis fell on Dorada in the third while catching a dive and Dorada looked hurt. Oro submitted Ephesto, and the tecnicos brought Dorada back in the ring after the match. Money was thrown in.
5) La Sombra, Mistico, Thunder b Kráneo, Psicosis, Volador Jr.
Volador Jr. replaced Olimpico. Tecnicos took 2/3, with pins by Thunder on Kraneo (spinning side slam) and Mistico on Psicosis (huracarrana). Mistico looked better this week.

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG FILL (TUE) 02/26/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Charly Boy & Dragón Blanco b Payaso Extremo & Skrull Metal
2) Aviador, Príncipe Azteca, Principe Rojo b Electro Boy, Hijo Del Rey Terko, Smog
“Atomic” appears to be Electro Boy listed as Atomic Boy again.
3) Blue Monsther, Matrix Jr., Power Bull b Alas de Acero, Fly Star, Ranchero
4) Ángel Del Amor, Apolo Estrada Jr., Seiya b Araña de Plata, Fulgore, Picudo Jr.
5) Centvrión, Dr. Siniestro, Dragón Celestial, Eita, Eterno, Galaxy, Imposible, Serpiente de Oro b Boycot, Flehyzer, Holkan, Jhon Crazy, Kiuby, Mr. Leo, Rey Tabú, Vuelo Espacial [copa Higher Power]
FILL vs Konkreto, though Fuerza Guerrera was not there for his students this time. Dr. Siniestro replaced Alan Extreme. Match came down to Imposible & Eterno vs Jhon Crazy & Mr. Leo. Mr. Leo, who has appeared on IWRG shows of late, didn’t get along with his team during the match and had a falling out at this point. Crazy used the ropes to beat Eterno, Leo argues with Crazy over tactics and accidental shots before fouling Crazy, Imposible pinned Crazy and then pinned Leo when Leo gave up. Gym Konkreto was very upset with Mr. Leo, who asked for asylum with the IWRG squad. Imposible seemed okay with it.

CMLL (TUE) 02/26/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Metatrón & Virgo COR Exterminador & Magnum
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Esfinge & Gallo b Bárbaro Cavernario & Maléfico
Tecnicos took 1/3, Esfinge beat Barbaro to set up a title match next week.
3) Astral, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito b Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
Tecnicos seem to have won 2/3, though the last fall finish is unclear.
4) Hijo del Fantasma, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. DQ Namajague, Rey Escorpión, Shigeo Okumura
Straight falls. Okumura was DQed for excessive violence on Cometa in the second.
5) Averno, Mephisto, Terrible b Máximo, Shocker, Thunder
Rudos took 1/3, Terrible pulling Thunder’s mask for the win.

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 02/26/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Camorra & Guerrero Negro Jr. b Génesis & Robin
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Skándalo
Tuareg vs Cancerbero fight. Raziel snuck in a foul on Nitro for the win.
3) Soberano Jr. b Camaleón, Stigma, Höruz, Hombre Bala Jr., Akuma, Espanto Jr., Herodes Jr., Cholo, Bobby Zavala [Sangre Nueva, semifinal]
Sides were tecnicos vs rudos. Eliminations went Horuz (by Akuma), Cholo (by Camaleon), Horuz (by injuyr), Camaleon (Herodes Jr.), Espanto Jr. (Hombre Bala Jr.), Herodes Jr. (Stigma), Stigma (Bobby Zavala), and Bobby Zavala (Hombre Bala Jr.) That left Soberano & Hombre Bala Jr., two tecnicos, so who had to face off so there would be one winner. (This rarely happens.) Soberano beat Hombre Bala Jr. with something like Euforia’s Nirvana-lock. Soberano Jr. faces the 03/05 winner on 03/12.
4) Negro Casas b Delta [lightning]
Negro beat Delta in a 6 and a half minutes with a casita.
5) Diamante Azul, Super Porky, Valiente b Kráneo, Morphosis, Psicosis
Match had Angel de Oro on the tecnico side (Valiente took his place), and the Guerreros instead of Invasors. Morphosis wore his Histeria gear again. Porky won the match with a plancha.

Morphosis was in for the CMLL Light Heavyweight contenders cibernetico last month. This is his first trios match in Arena Mexico since September. My hunch is the rudo side changes was an typing error or miscommunication; Euforia, Niebla Roja and Ultimo Guerrero are listed as main eventing Friday’s show, and it’s exceptionally rare for the same trio to be in back to back Tuesday/Friday main events together. Angel de Oro could be the same thing, but he’s also had knee problems of late.

Soberano winning is a bit of a surprise and a nice win. It looks like an all out action match, including a quadruple dive spot and a stage dive bit. Hombre Bala (and CMLL) must be okay with the apron Spanish Fly bit because Bala did it to Soberano here again, and it wasn’t even the finish. Soberano’s stated goal is to team with his father and he’s now a step closer.

Mesias hypes Sunday’s AAA Sin Limite taping in SLP. The card rundown lists Konnan as a referee. That would normally seem like just a weird typo, but that’s how we found out Sexi Star was a guest referee for the match at Heroes Inmortales (and they never really ran an angle to explain it ahead of time.)

Tickets are on sale for the TxT return show on 03/23. The page lists the partial lineup for the show, which hasn’t been announced yet as far as I can find. There’s a minis match (Tzuki/Dorada vs Lobito/Rockerito) and a young guys match (Saruman/Dinamic Black vs Imposible/Alan Extreme), and something with Angel Blanco Jr., Hijo del Solitario, Dr. Wagner Jr. and Rayman which isn’t very clear. The main event will be Santo defending his WBC/CMB welterweight championship against a contender to be determined – two Americans and 1 Canadian will face off, winner vs Santo. The names of the outsiders are not mentioned. Ticket prices run from $590 ($46.10 USD) ringside down to $70 ($5.47 USD).

Meanwhile, Joaquin Roldan mentioned tickets for Rey de Reyes will run from $600 ($46.88 USD) down to $60 ($4.69 USD).

Bill has highlights of 11/24/11 IWRG.

Promo for Sunday’s Arena Lopez Mateos show and highlights of last week’s tribute to Lola Gonzalez and Fray Tormenta.

Rush’s match in Guatemala didn’t happen. Promotion says his plane was supposed to get in at noon, but it was delayed until 8pm (after the show.) They held a battle royal to set up a title match next week instead. Goya Kong is headed there on March 17.

La Copa has a bio on Flamita.

Phil @ Segunda Caida really likes Chico Che, Freelance, Hijo del Pantera vs Apolo Estrada, Avisman and Eita from 02/17.

A new lucha libre exhibit opens in Monterrey next Wednesday. They’ll have free shows every Sunday.

Indy luchador plans to go to CMLL, but not now.


CMLL (MON) 03/04/2013 Arena Puebla
1) Centauro de Fuego & Siki Ozama Jr. vs Espiritu Maligno & Fuerza Chicana
2) Dalis la Caribeña, Lady Afrodita, Luna Mágica vs La Seductora, La Vaquerita, Zeuxis
3) Fuego, Sagrado, Stuka Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Vangelis
4) Rey Cometa vs Shigeo Okumura [lightning]
5) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Diamante Azul, Hijo del Fantasma, Máscara Dorada
6) Atlantis, La Sombra, Thunder vs Euforia, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.

Prelude to H2L as a lightning match. If that women’s match is only slightly bad, everyone should celebrate. There are some bad possibilities there.

CMLL (TUE) 03/05/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Aereo & Pequeño Halcón vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Camaleón, Magnus, Molotov vs Akuma, Apocalipsis, Artillero
3) Génesis, Oro Jr., Robin, Sensei, Super Halcón Jr. vs Disturbio, Guerrero Negro Jr., Inquisidor, Taurus, Zayco [Sangre Nueva, semifinal]
winner faces Soberano Jr. next week
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky, Valiente vs Black Warrior, Misterioso Jr., Olímpico
5) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo

Guerrero Maya and Black Warrior have a thing. I have no idea what that thing is, but Maya seems to annoy Warrior less than all the other young guys annoy him.

Super Halcon Jr. is the most advanced of this Sangre Nueva group and Oro Jr. is the most promising, but neither would be a good fit with Soberano in the final. I kind of want to see Zayco in the final because just to see what the match would be like, but Disturbio or Taurus seem better chances. Soberano moving from the 1’s to the 2’s would be fine, but none of the potential winners seem ready to move up to the 3’s on a regular basis. We’re supposed to be under the impression that Inquisidor is a new brother of Polvora (and Vaquero just happens to be standing off camera in all the pictures), but Sensei has been here under that name since 2005 and is 34 years old. I feel better knowing I’m still eligible for this tournament.

CMLL (TUE) 03/05/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Metal & Sky Kid vs In Memoriam & Sádico
2) Starman & Stigma vs Nitro & Skándalo
3) Diamante, Fuego, Tritón vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
4) Bárbaro Cavernario vs Esfinge [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE]
Barbaro Cavernario is champion. Second defense.
5) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Hijo del Fantasma vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
6) Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder vs Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero

The Terrible/Thunder feud continues here. Might Thunder get his first singles match before his Arena Mexico debut?

Guadalajara brought back the Occidente titles to actually use them, not just hand them out like other places. Two seem like enough, and it’s a long time before they’re meaningful, but they’ve made a nice start of it.

great match roundup, 2013-02-02

Great/Excellent Matches

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-02-02
Volador Jr. vs Rey Escorpión for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship – EXCELLENT

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-02-02
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-02-02
CMLL on Televisa: 2013-02-02
AAA on Televisa (Regional): 2013-02-03
AAA Fusion: 2013-02-07

I had Drago & Fénix vs Daga & Dark Dragon from Noches de Coliseo: 2013-02-03 as GOOD. There was good actions but some slight errors; enough that you knew they had room for a better match.

Matches I Missed That I Should Maybe Check Out

IWRG on AYM didn’t have anything that looks great and TVC Deportes was not back on yet. Can’t think of anything else.

CMLL vs IWL, Sangre Nueva, Trauma II explains the 3 way mask match

CMLL IWL (SUN) 02/24/2013 Centro de Convenciones Tlalnepantla [@lawagnermania, Estrellas del Ring, R de Rudo]
1) Payaso Carroña & Payaso Terror b Arkanos & Rayo Del Futuro
Periko ran in, attacked Arkanos and Rayo del Futuro, and announced he was forming La Resitencia wiht the clowns.
2) Perico, Quimco Jr., Último Vampiro b Ojo Diabólico Jr., Templario, Yago
3) Coco Amarillo Jr., Coco Blanco, Cocolores b Babel, Bugambilia, Corcel
Flamita, Mike Segura and Pantera were scheduled, but replaced by Babel, Bugambila, and Corcel.
4) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas b Ángel o Demonio, León Rojo, Ovett
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., Mephisto, Último Guerrero b Carta Brava Jr. I, Ricky Marvin, Super Crazy
Carta had Dragon Rojo beat, but UG got away with a foul and beat him.

No one mentions any problems between Dragon Rojo and Ultimo Guerrero. No one mentions there should be problems either.

The CMLL Gaceta preview for tonight’s show says it’s a rare occasion to see the Invasors in Arena Mexico. They were just there challenging for the trios titles last Sunday. I dunno. (Morphosis does rarely appear, which they correctly point out.) The Sangre Nueva tournament begins again, with Hombre Bala Jr. and Bobby Zavala among the favorites for this group. The show also has a Delta/Negro Casas lightning match, and another Tuareg vs Cancerberos match.

There’s also a IWRG FILL show tonight in Arena Naucalpan. It’s another battle with the Konkreto Gym. The FILL kids beat them in the cage match, but have yet to win a cibernetico against Fuerza Guerrera’s guys.

CMLL’s shuffled the Incredible Pairs teams for Friday. The Mascara Dorada/Mephisto and Averno/Mascara teams I whined about on Saturday are now back together as originally announced, and Kraneo now teams up with Marco Corleone. Maybe this’ll lead to those in their first ever lightning match.

Arena Xalapa is advertising Joe Lider, Fenix, X-Fly, Eterno for their 03/17 show.  That’s the same day as Rey de Reyes, which means they would be off that card – except Dr. Lucha mentioned a plan to conclude the Fusion tournament at Rey de Reyes (and I’ve since heard the same thing), and Fenix is in the finals of that tournament. I’m not sure what the deal is.

Trauma II gave an explanation about how Oficial 911 ended up back in the mask match on Facebook. He reminds us that he and Angel were upset with how Oficial 911 won the triangle match last Sunday – Oficial 911 snuck back in the ring while the other two were counted out and said so on Tercera Caida. The commission, which Trauma II notes usually doesn’t take care of injustices when they’re supposed to, though they were being fair to Angel and Trauma by putting 911 back in the match. (That darn commission!) Trauma II doesn’t agree with this at all, and now feels like his chances of holding on to his mask are even smaller, but he’s going to accept the situation and take 911’s mask this Sunday.

The Thursday CMLL show at Arena Queretaro has been moved to Auditorio General José María Arteaga in the same city. The Lucha Libre Quereatro facebook says it’s due to changes in Arena Queretaro administration. There’s an AAA show previously announced for that building in the middle of March.

AAA has put up everything from it’s show in segments: a match Rey de Reyes match 1998, more highlights from 1998, a recap of the Sociedad vs AAA feud, Jarochita’s firing and other firings, the recap from the previous weekthe Roldan family meeting, the Rey de Reyes promo for this year, Dinastia vs Mini Psicosis hype,

Rob has highlights of late July and early August CMLL 2002.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

The Gladiatores interviews Hijo del Pantera about his pending long stay in Japan (he’s working with Wrestling New Classic, Tajiri’s promotion) and Dinamic Black about his title win.

Cronicas Y Leyendas looks back at Ray Mendoza & Canek vs Abdullah The Butcher & Perro Aguayo, which sounds like a very bloody match knowing nothing more than those four names.

AAA hypes LuFisto’s debut, including a Cinthia Moreno interview talking up the match. It said to be a long run for LuFisto in AAA, not just the weekend.

Alan Stone, who appeared to be done in AAA way back at last year’s Heroes Inmortales, is listed on a card for this weekend.

Super Porky and Maximo head to Monterrey this weekend. Looks like a Reyes del Aire match is the semimain.

Groon XXX is among the indy names working Arena Aficion next Tuesday. There was a ‘where are they are now’ answer I gave about a month ago, mostly saying people weren’t around any more, and they’ve all returned since I said that. Don’t listen to me.

Ricky Marvin & Super Crazy won in the main event thee way tag match of the NGX (Monterrey) show, but some fans were unhappy because it was a Strong Style match with little weapon usage in a hardcore promotion, and those fans wanted more an extreme match. They style they did left Marvin and Erick Snake hurt still; the Marvin injury sounds like a concussion, which would be very concerning since he just had another one about 10 days ago, but assuming we know anything about these guys medical histories would seem to be a bad bet.

An arena in Xalapa was to be shut down to due to civil authorities declaring the building unfit for use, so the last show featured an extreme match where ‘more than 250 light tubes were broken’.


indy (SAT) 03/02/2013 Gimnasio GDL
1) Casanova Boy, Lander, Spider vs Eragon Extreme, Tornado (DF), Veneno Maya
2) ?, Lizmarman, Principe De La Oscuridad vs Alucard, Black Mercury, El Pastor
3) La Jarochita, Principe Pantera Jr., Sangre Felina vs Alex Montana, El Exorcista, Kamillion
4) Alan Extreme, Comando Negro, Gemelo Fantastico I, Iron Kid, Principe Pantera, Skayde, Terremoto vs Astro Rey Jr., Fresero Jr., Gambler, Gemelo Fantastico II, Impulso, Obscuro, Súper Nova [EdM WELTER]
Astro Rey Jr. is champion.

Astro Rey Jr. and the Tercera Caida guys must’ve patiently explained how that main event works at least 3 different times last week, and I still have no idea. This is a benefit show for Astro de Plata (Astro Rey Jr.’s brother.) SuperLuchas listed another Astro de Plata show on Sunday with Tiffany and Magnus.

Semimain is a mixed tag, with wife (Jarochita) and husband (Exorcista) on opposite sides.

CMLL ICHIBAN (SUN) 03/03/2013 Centro Civico Chamizal
1) Mixus vs Cosmico Delta, Demasiado Moria, Dino, Acerus, Chamaco De Oro, Black Metal (DF)
2) Red Tiger & Zurdog vs Black Shadow Jr. & Pegazus
3) Keira & La Vaquerita vs Estrellita & Tiffany
4) Diva Salvaje, Íkaro, Kráneo vs Antar, Mr. Niebla, Psico Kid
5) Angel del Misterio, Atlantis, Corsario Negro Jr. vs Averno, Jorge Kebrada , Zertiko

Again listed as airing on AYM Sports., again no date given. As far as I can tell, the last show has not aired.

BAJA STAR (FRI) 03/15/2013 Auditorio de Tijuana
1) Eddie Randle & Ryan Kid vs Johnny Goodtime & Johnny Yuma
2) Silver Star & So Cal Crazy vs Pitbull & Ultratumba Jr.
3) Angel Garcea, Camaleon De Oro, Rubi Gardenia vs Enfermero, King Azteca, Pancho Cachondo
4) Arandú & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Hijo del Rey Misterio II & Tony Casanova
5) Canek & El Hijo Del Santo vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Hijo del Solitario

Poster here. Pretty amazing Dr. Wagner Jr. was saying he’d be at Dos Leyendas when he had this match booked for the same night. (Unless you want to believe someone put this show together in the last few days, which – nah.) On the same tip, Dr. Lucha mentioned last week that Dr. Wagner is heavily disliked by CMLL management at the moment – more so than Santo! – and it’ll be a long time before he’s back. For his own part, Dr. Wagner’s latest run of interviews have moved the goal posts to the Anniversary show. I wish Dr. Wagner’s biggest fans better understood his dedication to performance art.

That’s PWG/SoCal’s RockNES Monsters in the opener (and I probably have the other team wrong), in a weird world’s collide situation.

02/23-24 lucha videos

GDL’s feed is still broken.

YouTube Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7RrKv5lKAeXFh5V02rZpdPc&feature=view_all

WWC 02/23: http://www.sendspace.com/file/b13vx1
WWC 02/24: http://www.sendspace.com/file/k0llbo

Sobre el Ring 02/18: http://www.sendspace.com/file/hugwcy – Octagoncito guests

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-02-18
taped 2013-02-17 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Chico Che, Freelance, Hijo del Pantera vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, Eita
2) Centvrión vs Golden MagicCarta Brava Jr.Dinamic BlackAlan Extreme
3) Decnnis, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Scorpio Jr. vs Pantera, Trauma I, Veneno in a super libre match
4) Oficial 911 vs el ÁngelTrauma II [loser advances – maybe]

AAA on UTDN: 2013-02-17
taped 2013-02-03 @ Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Bugambilia, Centvrión, Rocky Lobo vs Flamita, Lanzeloth, Lucky Boy
2) Argenis, Atomic Boy, Súper Fly vs Billy el Malo, Black Mamba, Gran Apache
same as Televisa show
taped 1999-06-11 @ Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas
3) El Cobarde, Octagón, Perro Aguayo Sr. vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Sangre Chicana, Texano in a relevos increíbles match
taped 2006-03-10 @ Centro de Convenciones, Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas
4) La Parka Jr., Octagón, Vampiro vs Chessman, Cibernético, Muerte Cibernetica and Konnan, Ron Killings, Samoa Joe and Scorpio Jr., Shocker, Zumbido in a AAA’s Rey de Reyes Tournament match
taped 2013-02-03 @ Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
5) Cuervo, Escoria, Espíritu vs Daga, Halloween, Psicosis
same as Televisa
6) Drago, Fénix, Octagón vs Pentagón Jr., Silver King, Toscano

AAA on Televisa: 2013-02-23
taped 2013-02-03 @ Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Fabi Apache, La Jarochita, Lolita vs Jennifer Blake, Mari Apache, Taya Valkyrie
Roldan discussion, part 1
2) Cibernético, El Mesías, La Parka vs Chessman, Parka Negra, Texano

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-02-23
taped 2013-02-17 @ Arena Mexico
1) Delta vs Puma in a lightning match

2) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Namajague, Shigeo Okumura
3) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Rush vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Psicosis for the CMLL World Trios Championship

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-02-23
taped 2013-02-19 @ Arena Mexico
1) Oro Jr. & Robin vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Metálico, Sensei, Soberano Jr. vs Bobby Zavala, Disturbio, Hijo del Signo
3) Fuego, Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado vs Puma, Sangre Azteca, Virus
History: Rudy Blancarte
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Máximo vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mephisto, Pólvora
Stellar Moments
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Super Porky vs Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Escorpión

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-02-23
taped 2013-02-15 @ Arena Mexico
1) Dalis la Caribeña, Estrellita, Silueta vs Amapola, La Comandante, La Seductora
2) La Sombra vs Volador Jr. in a CMLL’s Reyes del Aire Tournament match

CMLL on Televisa: 2013-02-23
taped 2013-02-15 @ Arena Mexico
1) Hijo del Fantasma vs Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match
2) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Averno, Mephisto, Namajague
3) Atlantis, La Máscara, Super Porky vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Noches de Coliseo: 2013-02-24
taped 2013-02-19 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Hijo Del Mongol Chino, Pancho Tequilla, Potro Jr. vs Androide, Bengali, Monje Negro Jr.
taped 2013-02-17 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
2) Big Memo & Mortifero vs Ciber Payaso & Rey Unicorno in a hardcore rules match
taped 2013-02-19 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
3) 5x, Big Neurosis, Ninja Jr. vs Chico Latino, Kaientai, Rico Rodriguez
taped 2013-02-17 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
4) Sergio Romo Jr. & Skayde vs Diluvio Negro II & Rey Hechicero

AAA on Televisa (Regional): 2013-02-24
taped 2013-02-03 @ Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Dinastía, Mascarita Sagrada, Octagoncito vs Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria, Mini Psicosis http://www.sendspace.com/file/10e195
Sexy Star segment
Las Claves del Conflicto de La Sociedad vs AAA

CMLL Puebla: 2013-02-25
taped 2013-02-18 @ Arena Puebla
1) Dinámikoo & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Centauro de Fuego & Siki Ozama Jr.
2) Asturiano & Bengala vs Artillero & Blue Center
3) Astral vs Pequeño Olímpico in a lightning match
4) Magnus, Starman, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Shocker, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Morphosis, Olímpico
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Mistico vs Kráneo, Psicosis, Volador Jr.

CMLL luchadors who’ve not had lightning matches

Over on twitter (link if embed fails like usual)

Most of the people who fit the list are minis, women, opening card guys or odd foreigners, all of who are much less likely to get lightning matches. I’ve bolded those who are not.

Brazo de Plata
Espanto Jr.
Goya Kong
Guerrero Negro Jr.
Herodes Jr.
La Comandante
La Seductora
Lady Afrodita
Marco Corleone
Oro Jr.
Psicosis II
Que Monito
Soberano Jr.
Tama Tonga
Último Guerrero

Ultimo Guerrero is in surprising. He’s had plenty of singles matches that are essentially one fall and ten minutes, but none where that’s especially the rules. CMLL seems reluctant to put Marco Corleone in many singles matches, which I’m always disappointed by. Brazo de Plata in a singles match would be a bad idea. The Invasors have more often been in trios and Morphosis hasn’t been around much, but it seems odd Psicosis hasn’t had one. Nitro would’ve surely had one by now if he was healthy long enough.

Having a lightning match, and having a lighting match recently are two different things. Here’s the most recent dates for lightning matches for everyone who has had one:

Ramstein 2000-06-30
Tigre Blanco 2004-03-19
Black Warrior 2005-03-04
Bengala* 2005-03-11
Pequeño Universo 2000 2009-05-22
Hooligan 2009-05-29
Terrible 2009-09-11
Pequeño Halcón 2010-12-25
Rush 2011-02-25
Mistico II* 2011-11-04
Pequeño Violencia 2011-11-15
Blue Panther 2012-01-27
Pequeño Warrior 2012-03-16
Disturbio 2012-03-27
Ángel Azteca Jr. 2012-04-06
Arkángel de la Muerte 2012-06-03
Pequeño Nitro 2012-07-03
Princesa Sugheit 2012-07-22
Bobby Zavala 2012-07-23
Tiffany 2012-07-24
Felino 2012-08-03
Shocker 2012-08-05
Sensei 2012-08-13
Nosferatu 2012-08-13
Robin 2012-08-14
Artillero 2012-08-14
Luna Mágica 2012-08-20
Dallys la Caribeña 2012-08-21
Shigeo Okumura 2012-08-27
Estrellita 2012-09-02
Súper Comando 2012-09-17
Raziel 2012-09-21
Stuka Jr. 2012-10-02
La Sombra 2012-10-09
Volador Jr. 2012-10-09
Rey Bucanero 2012-10-19
Máximo 2012-10-19
Taurus (CMLL) 2012-10-22
Molotov 2012-10-28
Cancerbero 2012-10-28
Cholo 2012-10-29
Höruz 2012-10-29
Metatrón 2012-11-12
Mephisto 2012-11-16
Fuego 2012-11-18
Magnus 2012-11-19
Pierrothito 2012-11-20
Bam Bam 2012-11-20
Niebla Roja 2012-11-27
Skandalo 2012-12-02
Demus 3:16 2012-12-03
Vangelis 2012-12-04
Apocalipsis 2012-12-05
Amapola 2012-12-09
Inquisidor 2012-12-10
Super Halcón Jr. 2012-12-10
Máscara Dorada 2012-12-14
Pegasso 2012-12-18
Sangre Azteca 2012-12-18
Marcela 2012-12-23
Mercurio 2012-12-25
Valiente 2012-12-28
Mr. Águila 2012-12-28
Starman 2013-01-01
Namajague 2013-01-04
Stigma 2013-01-07
Rey Cometa 2013-01-08
Olímpico 2013-01-08
Diamante Azul 2013-01-11
Rey Escorpión 2013-01-11
Sagrado 2013-01-14
Último Dragoncito 2013-01-15
Hijo del Signo 2013-01-20
Hombre Bala Jr. 2013-01-20
Mr. Niebla 2013-01-25
Atlantis 2013-01-25
Princesa Blanca 2013-01-27
Dark Angel 2013-01-27
Titán (11) 2013-01-29
Euforia 2013-02-05
Metálico 2013-02-10
Virus 2013-02-10
Pólvora 2013-02-12
Guerrero Maya Jr. 2013-02-12
Hijo del Fantasma 2013-02-15
Dragón Rojo Jr. 2013-02-15
Puma King 2013-02-17
Astral 2013-02-18
Pequeño Olímpico 2013-02-18
Tiger 2013-02-19
Diamante 2013-02-19
Averno 2013-02-22
La Máscara 2013-02-22
Ephesto 2013-02-24
Ángel de Oro 2013-02-24
Negro Casas 2013-02-26
Delta 2013-02-26
Misterioso II 2013-03-03
Tritón 2013-03-03

* – switched characters since that last match

After the break, # of lightning matches per wrestler.

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