Goto/Guerrero, Escorpion, Perro Aguayo

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CMLL (FRI) 04/22/2011 Arena Mexico [CMLL, Record, Cesar]
1) Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito b Astral & Eléctrico
Rudos took 1 & 3
2) Metro, Sagrado, Sangre Azteca b Shigeo Okumura, Virus, Yoshihashi
Tecnicos won fall 1 & 3. Metro has new white gear.
3) Escorpion b Rey Cometa [Forjando Un Idolo]
Escorpion [3] again pulled his opponent’s mask, but this time got away with it to beat Rey Cometa [3] in 5:53. Ultimo Guerrero yelled at Escorpion again, but Escorpion laughed and did not care because he won this time.
4) Ángel de Oro b Palacio Negro [Forjando Un Idolo]
Palacio Negro submitted Angel de Oro, but Tiger Hispano waved it off, claiming Palacio Negro used an illegal choke. Later, Angel de Oro [6] reversed Palacio Negro’s [3] campana into a mecedora for the win.
5) Blue Panther, La Máscara, La Sombra DQ Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
Tecnicos won 1 and 3, the last when Averno unmasked La Mascara. Averno told Mascara that was the only way the tecnico could beat him; Averno is to good for Mascara to legally defeat. Mephisto took La Sombra’s mask after the match for good measure.
6) Héctor Garza, Hirooki Goto, Volador Jr. b Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero
Hirooki Goto won the first fall by pulling off his partner Volador’s mask and tossing it to UG to draw the DQ. Bit of genius there. Goto cleanly beat Guerrero in fall two for a straight fall win. Goto challenged Ultimo to a heavyweight title match, UG accepted, and it’s on for next Friday – which is both Kid’s Day and Arena Mexico Anniversary Day.

I have not heard an specific attendance number, but reports were more than 10,000. Lot of people in for holiday festivities, and it sounded like there were a lot more women in the crowd; not the hardcore rudo fans booing everything.

Forjando un Idolo matches

Perro Aguayo Jr. wrestling on that May 8th show in Cancun is probably not going to actually happen. On his every other week podcast on, Dr. Lucha said the word backstage at Wednesday’s AAA taping was Perro Jr. really did have the surgery, and really did have something taken out of him (and they knew the next day it wasn’t malignant), but he’s still going to get more medical tests done in Mexico City and he’s not expected to be back in the ring for a couple months. He may appear to do interviews, or even be at ringside for matches, but AAA doesn’t think they can use him in a match until at least TripleMania. Perros might have announced that May 8th date because they’re anxious to prove Perro Jr. doesn’t actually have cancer (and they don’t really have any other in-house stars), but he shouldn’t be expected to do anything at that show.

Also, on that same podcast, Dr. Lucha mentioned AAA found out only this past Tuesday that their show this weekend was going to be truncated to 30 minutes. (Televisa is showing diving coverage instead.) At first, Televisa offered to rip up AAA’s show into a 30 minute slot, but AAA opted for a rerun so they could debut Drago on a normal show. (That might explain why CMLL’s time slot looks so truncated as well. ) Not sure what this means for the US, though we’re unlikely to get any longer version of the show. Galavision is currently showing a 2 hour slot for AAA and a 1 hour for CMLL.

04/23: Manabu Nakanishi (O) & Jushin Liger b Mascara Dorada & King Fale (X)
Dorada has yet to take a direct loss or pick up direct win.

I have not seen all of Ras de Lona this week, but they did not have the usual interviews; JCR and Miguel Linares talked about past Anniversary main events for four minutes (focusing on Blue Panther vs Villano V, maybe because they had a lot of footage of that one),  then later Leobrado and Miguel talked about for about four minutes about Ultimo Guerrero vs Villano V, and then again JCR & Miguel about the four way from last March. From the way they edited it, it looked a lot more like a three way – a certain WWE superstar was excluded from the highlights and never actually mentioned by name in talking about that match. That was a bit amazing.



CMLL (MON) 04/25/2011 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano & Stigma vs Fuerza Chicana & Siki Osama
2) Astral, Mascarita Dorada, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
3) Dragon Lee [0] vs Metal Blanco [1] [Forjando un Idolo]
4) Delta [3] vs Guerrero Maya Jr. [3] [Forjando un Idolo]
5) Rush, Sagrado, Valiente vs Shigeo Okumura, Virus, Yoshihashi
6) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, La Sombra vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
7) Último Guerrero vs Hirooki Goto

UG & Goto have been feuding here too. Two chances at this means at least one should be pretty good.

This is group Charly, who are last in line to have their second group matches and first in line for the thirds. We won’t know what these matches mean until Sunday night, though I have the sneaking suspicion everyone might be tied at 1 win coming in this final day.

CMLL (TUE) 04/26/2011 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Quca vs Templario
2) Höruz & Virgo vs Acertijo & Malefico
3) Goya Kong, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, La Comandante, Mima Shimoda
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante, Dragon Lee vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Ráfaga, Skándalo
5) La Sombra, Rush, Toscano vs Mr. Águila, Olímpico, Psicosis

Lineup from Ticketmaster. Can’t be quite right, unless Silueta is making a long commute.

Ras de Lona said Tuesday Arena Mexico has

3) Fuego vs Magnus [Forjando un Idolo]
4) Polvora vs Angel de Plata [Forjando un Idolo]
5) Stuka, Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro vs Virus, Euforia, Raziel
5) Brazo de Plata, Maximo, Blue Panther vs Terrible, Texano, Rey Bucanero

Edit: Actual lineup

CMLL (TUE) 04/26/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Bengala & Trueno vs Apocalipsis & Zayco
2) Dark Angel, Estrella Mágica, Luna Mágica vs Estrellita, Princesa Blanca, Tiffany
3) Fuego [3] vs Magnus [3] [Forjando un Idolo]
4) Ángel de Plata [0] vs Pólvora [6] [Forjando un Idolo]
5) Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro, Sangre Azteca vs Ephesto, Euforia, Raziel
6) Blue Panther, Máximo, Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano

Stuka & Virus have other things to do? This is not a Queretaro week.

Main event is a rematch from last week. Next week is likely a Fan Appreciation show; would they rematch Dos Leyendas already?

Obviously, the winner of Fuego and Magnus advance (go Oaxaca!) and Plata & Polvora are playing out the string (barring Plata suddenly getting 2 bonus points, which we’re going to assume is not going happen and not mention as possibility for anyone else, but I wanted you to know I thought about it.)

CMLL (FRI) 04/29/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Pegasso, Sensei, Starman vs Dr. X, Hooligan, Inquisidor
2) Hijo del Fantasma, Sangre Azteca, Valiente vs Misterioso Jr., Shigeo Okumura, Vangelis
3) Puma King [0] vs Hijo del Signo [3] [Forjando un Idolo]
4) Diamante [6] vs Hombre Bala Jr. [3] [Forjando un Idolo]
5) Último Guerrero vs Hirooki Goto [CMLL HEAVY]
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Averno, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Kid’s Day & 55th Anniversary Show. They could’ve split those up, they did not, and they’re surely hoping for something well north of the magically 10K number.  Main event should be something. I do not like the rudos odds on this day!

I have a feeling that this Guerrero/Goto might be more playing to the audience, and the Puebla one is going to be better, but we’ll see. I’d be slightly surprised if Goto won, but UG is only a 55/45 favorite – CMLL is unafraid to give a lot to NJPW guys, feeling they’ll get it back later multiplied, and it gets CMLL to their magic number of 16 champions. Goto is gone after this weekend (maybe this show), but a title win means he’s back in a couple months.

Puma King vs Hijo del Signo is the only rudo vs rudo match in the group stage of Forjando un Idolo tournament, and it’s happening on Kid’s Day. Oops. We’d expect Signo & Bala both not to match results (neither has been close on the voting.) I can’t believe Puma is getting out of this with no points, so I’d expect Bala to take the second spot.

That leaves Group Bravo (Palacio vs Escorpion for the last birth) for next Sunday.

IWL (SAT) 05/14/2011 Deportivo Tlalli
1) El Panda, Gatillero, Hijo del Panda vs Payaso Carroña, Payaso Miedo, Payaso Terror
2) Chica Tormenta, Diva Salvaje, León Rojo, Talisman vs Celestial, Centinela, Gaviota, Lolita
3) Obett vs Judas el Traidor, Dinamic Black, Tribal, Pesadilla, Ragde, Eterno, Freelance, Chico Che [#1 Contenders, IWL Internet]
4) Fantasma de la Ópera vs Tony Rivera, Cerebro Negro, Ninja de Fuego, Fishman Jr., Zumbi, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, El Hijo del Medico Asesino, Kung Fu Jr., Ángel o Demonio [cage]
5) Chessman, Extreme Tiger, Silver Cain vs La Roca, Lizmark Jr., Pirata Morgan

La Roca exists again. That’s unfortunate. The poster also lists this show as Lucha Libre ATM, which may be a bit on the nose.

35 thoughts to “Goto/Guerrero, Escorpion, Perro Aguayo”

  1. Don’t suppose CMLL does their first angle in years and Ultimo Guerrero orders a rematch between Cometa and Escorpion at some point?

    Yeah, I didn’t think so either.

    Lame lineups next week. Only in CMLL do you get Kids Day w/ no mini’s and a rudo vs rudo match.

  2. Rooting for Goto but would be happy if Guerrero retained too. He has busted his ass for CMLL and deserves the title. Odd that its not the main event though. Maybe its done that way so Goto can win and they still send the fans home happy with a technico win.

  3. 52MX has the expected matches.

    AAA on Galavision has the first part of the Leon taping, so that one hour of Rey de Reyes is all that is airing here.

  4. Actually never mind they can probably just air another match since they edited right to the end of the Blanco/GM Jr match. Not clear how you can make a new idol with them getting 2 minutes of TV time but what do I know?

  5. @CM93: Their not saved yet. They have to watch Rush (who apparantly has the training of an infant, based on how many moves he knows) tommorrow.

  6. @CM93: Aero Star did some out of this world stuff in that match. It’s a crying shame he is still so wrongly used in AAA.

    No extra match on CMLL. Show ends with Noti CMLL.

  7. WOW CMLL just showed the two lightning round matches on a week when they only have 50 minutes of TV time. I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it, whoever does the editing for CMLL TV needs to be fired.

  8. If AAA was told Televisa would edit them down this week, I’d bet CMLL was told the same thing (and choose not to air a rerun.) Noti CMLL is a weird way to end the show if you’re CMLL, but it something that wouldn’t matter much to Televisa.

  9. LATV has the expected matches. Which means the only thing that didn’t air off of last week’s Arena Mexico show are, uh, the semimain and main.

  10. Strangely that works just fine for me.

    Totally calling we’ll get fucked and Astral/Electrico vs Demus/Pierrothito won’t air next week.

  11. Dragon Lee and Rafaga had many issues in the GDL opener and then someone got hurt on the SSP but I can’t figure out who since they both lay there dead for quite a while.

  12. Looked like Rafaga got hurt. Lee finishing with a SSP in the first Caida is hilarious. Who does he think he is, Mascara Purpura?

    They aren’t even trying anymore with Magnus. Why not just call him Mistico already? And C3 seems to be starting late.

  13. Dragon Lee should TOTALLY be doing springboard SSP’s on Tuesday GDL shows!

    For those who keep track of results: Tecs win by DQ.

  14. Not sure how GDL timing works out but show is half done and semi-main just starting. Does that mean Maximo vs Volador Jr. won’t air?

  15. I’m guessing the semi main will be edited to death. Which doesn’t bother me at all.

    Is the C3 Real Player link working or did they change times cause the movie is still on?

  16. Looks like no C3 due to holiday festivities.

    Let’s analyze how we would have seen the tournament matches without Alexis:

    First two Puebla matches: Show hasn’t aired yet.

    First two Tuesday matches: Aired on C3 last week.

    First two Friday matches: Aired today completely edited to death.

    First two Sunday matches: Presumably aired on FSE and were edited. Also may not show up online.

    Second two Puebla matches: Won’t air till tournament stage has begun. May not get uploaded.

    Second two Tuesday matches: C3 pre-empted. Will not air.

    Second two Friday matches: Might air next week, might not. Definitely going to be cut to shreds.

    Second two Sunday matches: Will be on FSE, edited and may not get uploaded.

    So my point is without Alexis we’d all be hating this tournament b/c we’d be seeing none of it.

  17. Just saw someone tweet about watching Bucanero/Terrible/Texano, so C3 is airing somewhere…

  18. I just watched a video clip of the main event from yesterday’s Arena Mexico show on I like how Hector Garza was wearing purple. It is Easter Weekend and purple is an Easter color. I knew Hector wouldn’t let me down. Yesterday I wore a purple shirt to Church for Good Friday. So me and Hector thought the same thing. Great minds think alike.

    Volador Jr. wore purple also.

  19. Hello, just got home and C3 is airing directly from Mexico City; it is just ch 44 Juarez that is not airing it (Holy Saturday). Repeat should air at dawn Monday and hopefully it will show up at Youtube soon (b/c I missed almost all of it too) :(

    Rey Bucanero is now part of Texano/Terrible team and is no longer “Corsario del amor” but “Corsario del terror” based on their own words in post-match interview w/Karla de la Cuesta.

  20. They should make the rotating third member of Texano and Terrible’s team part of their gimmick. They run through new partners faster than Spinal Tap ran through drummers.

  21. Teleformula (CMLL Gdl) has semi and main 03/15:

    4) Diamante, Gallo, Sagrado b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Skándalo
    5) Negro Casas & Rey Bucanero b Máximo & Rush

  22. Galavisión started later than scheduled (due to diving competition) and is showing AAA 04/20 Lienzo Charro de Pachuca at Pachuca, Hidalgo

    2) Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Súper Fly b Aerostar, El Elegido, Laredo Kid
    4) Drago, Joe Lider, La Parka b Charly Manson, Cibernético, Escoria

    Announced for next week:
    3) Chessman, Silver King, Último Gladiador b Electroshock, Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans

    I guess main will be aired next week too (show is still in progress) but is yet to be announced.

  23. @CM93: Hi! Yes I saw it, he did so many daring moves I could not stop watching. The only thinkg I did not get is why was the woman allowed to interfere that much.

  24. How is Escorpion not booked on next Friday’s show? Having him as Guerrero’s second would have so many spectacular options to advance their storyline. Would he interfere and cost his mentor the match? Would he interfere and get Ultimo the victory? Would he interfere, have his mentor refuse to take advantage and then subsequently lose the match?

    Maybe they’ll bring him in to work the match anyway, but my guess is that the tournament is being booked completely separate from the rest of the shows and that whoever is booking the upper card probably doesn’t even know that the angle is happening.

  25. @Alan: There is definitely something going on internally in CMLL right now where two or even three bookers are fighting for the right to have full power. The Sunday shows are like an alternate universe from the Tuesday/Friday shows and the Forjando tournament is clearly a fuck you to whoever booked the Gran Alternativa.

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