CMLL (MON) 10/04 Arena Puebla [El Sol de Puebla]
4) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto b Máximo, Rush, Valiente
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Místico
No results from Fuego, but the newspaper says Mistico (wearing a Puebla futbol jersey) lose to Atlantis via some cheating.
CMLL (TUE) 10/05 Arena Mexico [ESTO, SuperLuchas, @cmllmagazine]
1) Cholo, Mortiz, Semental b Freesbe, Principe, Robin
2) Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior b Astral, Pequeño Olímpico, Shockercito
3) Fuego, Sagrado, Stuka Jr. b Demus 3:16, Pólvora, Virus
4) Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Olímpico b Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero
5) La Máscara b Volador Jr. [MEX LH]
New champion! Mascara took the first, Volador took the second. Volador escaped La Campana in the third fall, but Mascara caught him with it again and locked it in this time for the win. Mascara is the 62nd champion. He’s also now a double champion, also holding the CMLL Trios belts.
This is a significant surprise. Volador is at the highest point of his career and any trip up at this point is totally unexpected and takes a little bit of steam out of him. Mascara has been good and the company is high on him, but he’s also been used as an extra guy to round out trios, with no feuds on his own. It feels like there’s a missing piece here but I don’t know if it’s something with Volador, something about the trios titles being changed soon, or something completely else.
Even though Pequeno Olimpico was a rudo here two Fridays ago, we’re supposed to be surprised he turned on his tecnico partners. Lazy. Both Bracito de Oro and Mini Olimpico are feuding with Shockercito.
Opener was originally listed as a pairs match, but Robin and Mortiz were added. Robin hung around to second his cousin in the main event. (Demus was with Volador.)
Last night, on the Televisa Deportes Network, a show called “Tribunal Televisa Deportes” argued if lucha libre was culpable or innocent of being unable to compete with WWE. Speaking in defense of wrestling were Dr. Morales and Arutro Rivera, with Cibernetico and Silver King also involved. A Televisa Deportes broadcaster took the other side. According to this detailed recap (with video!), this AAA guys got absolutely killed. The prosecutors said CMLL & AAA had done poor jobs of promoting, the television shows weren’t good, and the Mexican promoters just fell asleep at the switch. The lucha representatives apparently had no point other than “mexican lucha libre is teh awesome!!! and WWE is no good!” Which is usually, and actually sort of distressing if they believe that and are that out of touch with their audience.
It was interesting to ‘watch’ this unfold on Twitter last night. The comments were about what you’d guess if you just read stuff on the internet: a lot of people said CMLL is the best, WWE had supporters and detractors, and AAA had no supporters. The popularity of people watching the show didn’t really match up with the amount of people who actually watch/go to these shows at all; it’s as if many people are a fan of CMLL but not enough to actually watch it every week, and the people who watch AAA have better things to do than watch a late night sports show.
The one thing everyone seemed to agree to, and this is something Cibernetico said on the show, is a CMLL/AAA show would put Mexican lucha libre back past WWE. I completely disagree with this. That is a short term solution and there are long term issues at play here. CMLL vs AAA is a great way to get one payday or a few months of paydays, but if you look at every other interpromotional rivalry, the bump burns out after a few months and whatever problems where there before will still be there after.
(And promoted by the networks as well as the WWE stuff. It’s funny a Televisa network had this debate and blamed it on the promoters, when at least part of the reason WWE’s popular is Televisa’s put a bit more company push behind it compared to the local groups. Raw doesn’t get bumped from day to day this much.)
AAA looks back at the luchador career of Antonio Pena. Mi Lucha Libre writes about Pena’s career, and both they and Black Terry Jr. have photos from yesterday’s mass in his honor.
Heavy Metal was on crutches at that event. He has an ankle injury, but they don’t know exactly what the injury is yet.
Charly Manson says he might not be the favorite in his hair match, but Negro Casas is not invincible. He says he’s talked to CMLL about a contract (and a switch of sides), but his contract with Lucha Libre USA lasts until March.
In more Dos Jr/WWE Mexico interviews, Dos explains when he left CMLL, he was the biggest star. This is completely true, as long as by biggest, Dos means tallest. Dos guarantees he’ll be champion of WWE in less than a year. That might actually happen.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
Links
- El Hijo del Santo wrestled in Texas
- Cesar previews the 10/15 card.
- Box Y Lucha 2994 has Heroes Inmortales results.
Lineups
CMLL (MON) 10/11 Arena Puebla
1) Ares & Espiritu Maligno vs Stigma & Tigre Rojo
2) Bracito de Oro, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Warrior vs Astral, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito
3) Loco Max, Nitro, Skándalo vs Fuego, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
4) Misterioso II, Terrible, Vangelis vs Blue Panther, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero vs La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Místico
Hooray for Mistico getting booked; between this and the already announced card for Guadalajara next Tuesday, he’ll get to work at least twice next week. Straight rematch from this week.
Bracito de Oro & Shockercito still are feuding.
CMLL (TUE) 10/12 Arena Mexico
1) Camaleón & Trueno vs Disturbio & Mortiz
2) Bam Bam, Eléctrico, Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata vs Demus 3:16, Loco Max, Virus
4) Delta, Fuego, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso II, Terrible, Texano
5) Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Shocker vs Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Taichi
Shocker’s return? La Mascara is currently scheduled to have the day off (at least no match here and Guadalajara) but he probably should have his phone close by.
Third straight week of Fuego & Stuka teaming on Tuesday’s shows. Taichi goes straight to the main event (because he works as an Invasor.) I like to imagine a storyline where Loco Max and Virus are both teaming with Demus to recruit him to their group.
PdM (SUN) 10/17 Auditorio Municipal de los Reyes La Paz
1) Celestial & Cósmico vs Mr. Aguilita & Talisman
2) Diva Salvaje & Yuriko vs Pesadilla & Ragde
3) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Halloween, X-Fly vs ?, el Ángel, Super Crazy
I have no idea if Super Crazy is a rudo or a tecnico in this promotion.
Update! This show is already canceled. Or at least it has to be moved to a new building. Good job everyone.
PdM (SAT) 11/06 Tijuana
1) Miss Jackie & New York Nikki vs Christina Von Eerie & Jennifer Blake
2) Bestia 666 & X-Fly vs Extreme Tiger & Jack Evans
3) Damián 666, Halloween, Konnan vs Charly Haas, Shelton Benjamin, Super Crazy
4) Big Daddy V, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hernandez vs Booker T, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías
You may know Big Daddy V as King Mabel or Viscera. That’ll be a match. Not only is Booker T still on the tecnico side, he’s still teaming with the same guys he turned on last time.
Nice of Televisa to throw CMLL and AAA under the bus.
I should have been on the panel and then when they ask me why CMLL and AAA are struggling, I’d just say, “Do you watch the show on Televisa? How many commercials does one need to watch before they give up on watching that show?” Of course that’s just one of the many problems, but that’s a pretty obvious one. I can’t imagine a casual fan sitting through 10 minute commercial breaks.
@Alfredo: and then sit 10 minutes before another 10 minute break
i think the popularity of the wwe is a temporary thing
Much like most of Europe (barring only UK) WWE will have, or perhaps more so, have had their day in the sun. The kids get bored of it after 2-3 years and then see it for what it is, embarrasing and lame. Then, hopefully, the lucha promotions will continue with older fanbase and if everything works out they’ll get kids again after a while.
Why do companies like Televisa want to suck the foreign companys cock so much? It’s completely pathetic, and even worse when they have a far better history of their own wrestling which they could get behind and promote.
WWE must be paying Televisa for all the promotion and TV slots, as it is their tradition going back to the 80’s to murder the local product.
WWE will fail, and it won’t be long. But not before they tarnish ‘lucha’ in the eyes of some Mexican fans first.
Unfortunately there is no guarantee that the bored kids turn to the local promotions after they have finished with WWE. In Germany, the WWE hype was in the mid of the nineties with up to 30 house shows per year. At the same time the WWE hype was over, the long-established local promotions died away. The end of the WWE hype marked the end of the wrestling hype as a whole. Now the local promotions must be happy when 200 or 300 fans go to their events.
I’m happpy about Alberto Del Rio’s success in the WWE. He will be champion soon. He’s the Mexican JBL and that guy was the champion also.
If they brought in Latin Lover and used him right he too would be the next huge star in the WWE.