10/10-11 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Morenos return to TV, Maniacos beat down Lider forever, and tecnicos are angry after Octagon has red liquid dropped on him (I think)

52MX: Guessing women’s match and 7 tournament matches get compressed into one show.

LATV: this should be the anniversary show, so matches from that show will air in Japan and the US before they air in Mexico. Probably the semimain too, since they can’t stop from showing the Pesta Negra/Invasors match every week.

The thing I can’t figure out – if LATV can show matches that air on the main show, why don’t they just show the main show on LATV? Or just the main matches with new commentary if they must? For normal people who watch the show and aren’t watching the show from Mexico on YouTube, they might actually appreciate seeing the main angles and all.

GDL: Peste Negra versus locals/Rush + Strong Man vs Niebla.


CMLL: top 3 includes last build for Charly/Negro, Super Sky Team V2? vs Guerreros/Dragon Rojo.

AAA-MEX: part 1 of Heroes Inmortales, and they haven’t hinted what’ll air here.

CMLL-FOX: what doesn’t air elsewhere; maybe Guerreros/Dragon vs Trios champs + Maximo/Valietne vs Japan. Whatever airs, it’ll air a lot earlier – show is listed as airing at 7 am due to extensive baseball playoff coverage.

C3: LA Mascara vs Volador Jr.

Puebla: can’t tell if it’s on the schedule

ACM: have no idea

PdM: have no idea – they’re out of tapings. With the 10/17 show scrubbed, they’re out of tapings for quite a while.

IWRG: Just three random trios. The plan seems to be to keep all the big matches on Sundays, and off TV.


CMLL-TFN: Yujrio vs Black Warrior

AAA on Televisa #958 (10/02/2010)

taped Deportivo Tlalli, Tlalnepantla, 09/14/2010

weapon of Relampago destruction

Octagoncito vs Mini Histeria for the AAA World Minis Championship: this was no better than the women’s match the previous week, with the rudo doing way too many spots involving standing their and choking and setting up bits from their corner person. Maybe the minis (and women’s) titles should be tag team titles, but they have trouble carrying a singles match.

Extreme Tiger & Relampago vs Decnnis & Tigre Cota: This was good! Rudos are motivated, Tiger & Relampago worked as a team, and they managed to address their feud and keep it going without it over powering the match. This was a fine segment. If someone could explain/verify the segment after this match, that’d be helpful. I’m not sure I followed it.

El Elegido, Laredo Kid, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Alan Stone, Alex Koslov, Chris Stone: Another perfectly fine match, though kind of an odd way to set up Pimpi challenging Alex.

Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario vs Hernandez & Zorro: so 187 are fired forever and ever for using a weapon and we’ll never see them again. Which makes the post match beatdown unneccesary but props for being thorough. Mesias and Parka walking past the Militia, not even stopping to fight them, was pretty funny.

Cibernético, El Mesías, La Parka Jr. vs Damián 666, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Halloween: As good as it’s going to be when Perro has a huge dent in his head before the match starts. He meant to bleed, because he was wearing the white gear, but no one means to bleed that much. There’s not a smooth arc to this Cibernetico/Bizarros stuff – it’s more like a child flipping a light switch on and off.

La Mascara takes title from Volador, WWE vs Lucha, lineups

new champ/cmllmagazine

CMLL (MON) 10/04 Arena Puebla [El Sol de Puebla]
4) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto b Máximo, Rush, Valiente
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Místico

No results from Fuego, but the newspaper says Mistico (wearing a Puebla futbol jersey) lose to Atlantis via some cheating.

CMLL (TUE) 10/05 Arena Mexico [ESTO, SuperLuchas, @cmllmagazine]
1) Cholo, Mortiz, Semental b Freesbe, Principe, Robin
2) Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior b Astral, Pequeño Olímpico, Shockercito
3) Fuego, Sagrado, Stuka Jr. b Demus 3:16, Pólvora, Virus
4) Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Olímpico b Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero
5) La Máscara b Volador Jr. [MEX LH]

New champion! Mascara took the first, Volador took the second. Volador escaped La Campana in the third fall, but Mascara caught him with it again and locked it in this time for the win. Mascara is the 62nd champion. He’s also now a double champion, also holding the CMLL Trios belts.

This is a significant surprise. Volador is at the highest point of his career and any trip up at this point is totally unexpected and takes a little bit of steam out of him. Mascara has been good and the company is high on him, but he’s also been used as an extra guy to round out trios, with no feuds on his own. It feels like there’s a missing piece here but I don’t know if it’s something with Volador, something about the trios titles being changed soon, or something completely else.

Even though Pequeno Olimpico was a rudo here two Fridays ago, we’re supposed to be surprised he turned on his tecnico partners. Lazy. Both Bracito de Oro and Mini Olimpico are feuding with Shockercito.

Opener was originally listed as a pairs match, but Robin and Mortiz were added. Robin hung around to second his cousin in the main event. (Demus was with Volador.)

Last night, on the Televisa Deportes Network, a show called “Tribunal Televisa Deportes” argued if lucha libre was culpable or innocent of being unable to compete with WWE. Speaking in defense of wrestling were Dr. Morales and Arutro Rivera, with Cibernetico and Silver King also involved. A Televisa Deportes broadcaster took the other side. According to this detailed recap (with video!), this AAA guys got absolutely killed. The prosecutors said CMLL & AAA had done poor jobs of promoting, the television shows weren’t good, and the Mexican promoters just fell asleep at the switch. The lucha representatives apparently had no point other than “mexican lucha libre is teh awesome!!! and WWE is no good!” Which is usually, and actually sort of distressing if they believe that and are that out of touch with their audience.

It was interesting to ‘watch’ this unfold on Twitter last night. The comments were about what you’d guess if you just read stuff on the internet: a lot of people said CMLL is the best, WWE had supporters and detractors, and AAA had no supporters. The popularity of people watching the show didn’t really match up with the amount of people who actually watch/go to these shows at all; it’s as if many people are a fan of CMLL but not enough to actually watch it every week, and the people who watch AAA have better things to do than watch a late night sports show.

The one thing everyone seemed to agree to, and this is something Cibernetico said on the show, is a CMLL/AAA show would put Mexican lucha libre back past WWE. I completely disagree with this. That is a short term solution and there are long term issues at play here. CMLL vs AAA is a great way to get one payday or a few months of paydays, but if you look at every other interpromotional rivalry, the bump burns out after a few months and whatever problems where there before will still be there after.

(And promoted by the networks as well as the WWE stuff. It’s funny a Televisa network had this debate and blamed it on the promoters, when at least part of the reason WWE’s popular is Televisa’s put a bit more company push behind it compared to the local groups. Raw doesn’t get bumped from day to day this much.)

AAA looks back at the luchador career of Antonio Pena. Mi Lucha Libre writes about Pena’s career, and both they and Black Terry Jr. have photos from yesterday’s mass in his honor.

Heavy Metal was on crutches at that event. He has an ankle injury, but they don’t know exactly what the injury is yet.

Charly Manson says he might not be the favorite in his hair match, but Negro Casas is not invincible. He says he’s talked to CMLL about a contract (and a switch of sides), but his contract with Lucha Libre USA lasts until March.

In more Dos Jr/WWE Mexico interviews, Dos explains when he left CMLL, he was the biggest star. This is completely true, as long as by biggest, Dos means tallest. Dos guarantees he’ll be champion of WWE in less than a year. That might actually happen.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.



CMLL (MON) 10/11 Arena Puebla
1) Ares & Espiritu Maligno vs Stigma & Tigre Rojo
2) Bracito de Oro, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Warrior vs Astral, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito
3) Loco Max, Nitro, Skándalo vs Fuego, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
4) Misterioso II, Terrible, Vangelis vs Blue Panther, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero vs La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Místico

Hooray for Mistico getting booked; between this and the already announced card for Guadalajara next Tuesday, he’ll get to work at least twice next week. Straight rematch from this week.

Bracito de Oro & Shockercito still are feuding.

CMLL (TUE) 10/12 Arena Mexico
1) Camaleón & Trueno vs Disturbio & Mortiz
2) Bam Bam, Eléctrico, Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata vs Demus 3:16, Loco Max, Virus
4) Delta, Fuego, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso II, Terrible, Texano
5) Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Shocker vs Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Taichi

Shocker’s return? La Mascara is currently scheduled to have the day off (at least no match here and Guadalajara) but he probably should have his phone close by.

Third straight week of Fuego & Stuka teaming on Tuesday’s shows. Taichi goes straight to the main event (because he works as an Invasor.) I like to imagine a storyline where Loco Max and Virus are both teaming with Demus to recruit him to their group.

PdM (SUN) 10/17 Auditorio Municipal de los Reyes La Paz
1) Celestial & Cósmico vs Mr. Aguilita & Talisman
2) Diva Salvaje & Yuriko vs Pesadilla & Ragde
3) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Halloween, X-Fly vs ?, el Ángel, Super Crazy

I have no idea if Super Crazy is a rudo or a tecnico in this promotion.

Update! This show is already canceled. Or at least it has to be moved to a new building. Good job everyone.

PdM (SAT) 11/06 Tijuana
1) Miss Jackie & New York Nikki vs Christina Von Eerie & Jennifer Blake
2) Bestia 666 & X-Fly vs Extreme Tiger & Jack Evans
3) Damián 666, Halloween, Konnan vs Charly Haas, Shelton Benjamin, Super Crazy
4) Big Daddy V, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hernandez vs Booker T, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías

You may know Big Daddy V as King Mabel or Viscera. That’ll be a match. Not only is Booker T still on the tecnico side, he’s still teaming with the same guys he turned on last time.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX #254 (10/02/2010)

Arena Coliseo, 09/26/2010

if I'm going to see Metalico's finish every week, I might as well gif it once. Needs a name.

Astro Boy, Fuego, Metálico vs Disturbio, Puma King, Tiger Kid: First fall finish should’ve just come with a blinking “Cats and Fuego are going to have a big match soon”; they don’t go out of their way to do a mask pull DQ in a first fall of a segunda unless they’re up to something.

Hijo del Fantasma, Rush, Toscano vs Atlantis, Mephisto, Shigeo Okumura: originally supposed to be Averno, Mephisto and Lyger on the rudo side, which would’ve at least been interesting. There was actually about 20 seconds here where Rush & Toscano were an entertaining team, 20 seconds more than usual for either of them.