CMLL (MON) 12/07 Arena Puebla [El Sol de Puebla, Fuego en el Ring]
1) Black Tiger, Centella de Oro, Lestat b Alarido, Espiritu Maligno, Siki Ozama Jr.
2) Diamante, Leono, Tony Rivera b Bronco, Dr. X, Loco Max
3) Amapola b Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
4) Naito, Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro b Máscara Dorada, Sagrado, Valiente
5) Brazo de Plata, Héctor Garza, Strong Man b Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos won when Strong Man thru Porky onto the rudos. That’s why they’re a great combo.
The two different reports have two different results for the semimain. I’m rolling with Fuego.
Amapola is mentioned as having defended her title for the 12th time. Over on the wiki, we have it at 10 (or will when this gets added – I miss JT178 doing these for me.) That leaves two unaccounted for defenses. Unlike yesterday’s tag title bit (where CMLL says Volador/Sombra have defended it 11, and we have 7 and no more), there’s actually announced title matches with no results for the CMLL Women’s Title:
2009-12-03 Gimnasio Marcelino Gonzalez de Zacatecas Marcela vs Amapola [CMLL WOMEN] 2009-04-19 Parque Revolucion Dark Angel vs Amapola [CMLL WOMEN] 2008-04-24 Plaza de Toros Cancun Amapola vs Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
But that’s now 13 defenses, which still doesn’t match.
Note, we have only ten (or thirteen) because, between the wiki and the db, we’re being super careful to catch all these matches. I would wager most people who follow CMLL are only dimly aware Amapola is CMLL Women’s champion, and surely do not know (or care) how many times she’s defended it. The “we’ve always been at war with Eastasia” aspect of these numbers the last couple days is annoying to me, but me alone. And maybe we have always been at war with Eastasia, but if you never let me know about the battles.
(I only started thinking about CMLL as a dystopia – a society in which conditions of life are miserable and characterized by poverty, oppression, war, violence and/or terror, resulting in widespread unhappiness, suffering, and other kinds of pain (wikipedia) – after I watched that Guerreros del Ring episode. It’s amazing that it’s the same people who do Ras de Lona, trying to do the same thing as they do on Ras de Lona, and it’s painful to watch. No one’s getting over, and no one can possible have a good match if that’s what it’s like every week. Maybe I’ll be happier after I watch Sin Salida.)
addendum: After I wrote this paragraph, CMLL wrote a news update that said Sunday’s Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championship defense would be their third. It’s their second, and CMLL’s indisputably incorrect. If no one believes the numbers, they don’t mean anything. (They same updates notes how it makes absolutely no sense for this title to be defended in Arena Mexico. When you’re pointing out the absurdness of your own stories, and that’s not meant to be comedy, maybe you need better stories.
AAA notes that this past Sunday’s AAA (so there was an episode?) showed why no one helped Cibernetico when he got beat up by the entire Legion. I supposed it was because no one helps anyone in that situation most of the time, especially a rudo who’s turned on everyone at one point or another, but apparently the real story is Dorian blocked the tecnicos from running out. As has been clear since the first vignette since Dorian’s return, he’s turning rudo and going to end up with the Legion in a Joaquin/Roldan feud. It will be terrible television and possibly an awful match or two. For now, we’re supposed to be confused about Dorian’s behavior.
Also, AAA has banned Konnan and Cibernetico from interacting before their match. What’s AAA going to do if they touch? Not let them wrestle the match they’re taking no responsibility for? Also, how are they going to interact? There’s no TV tapings until their Guerra de Titanes match. I guess they’re not allowed to be in the same Starbucks at the same time, a harsh ban.
ESTO previews tonight’s Arena Mexico as the debut of Fuego. It only took 19 days from when they announced the character change. The show has Mistico vs Pesta Negra on top.
Box Y Lucha an interview with Astral (why does he give his height over 5 feet? Also, there’s Villano III talking about the original Arturo Blanco Jr..
Kcidis draws Monito giving No Limit a much needed gift.
Ras de Lona #75 has…I don’t remember. I think I need to start taking notes. Stuff about the title matches from last week, and Marcela, Hijo del Fantasma and Marcela talking about Europe and prices of things.
I hope Ras de Lona covered the hair match from Friday. I’m watching it at 8p tonight.
Congrats to the AAA writers. They’ve moved on past 1996, & now is ripping off late 1999- 2000 WWF.
You sure that was “black tiger” in the opening match? as in the gimmick of Rollerball Rocco, Eddy Guerrero, Silver King, Rocky Romero and whomever V is??
AAA should do a skit in the bootleg Mexican Starbucks they filmed that Billy Boy/Fabi Apache date segment in. They can film it in a camera that moves around like it’s on a tripod but say it’s a security camera and have Joe Lider pick his nose.
@MPJ-DK: Different Black Tiger, who started using that name in Mexico after Eddy did but before Silver King did (and then changed it to The Tiger for that duration.) Long time regular in that arena.
Never got the story on the name. Could just be a coincidence – plenty of color + noun wrestlers in Mexico.
Maybe he was a Y & T fan?
http://www.mothermetal.com/TBS/Bands/Y&T/Y&T%20Black%20Tiger%20Front.jpg
@MPJ-DK: Did you just notice this black tiger? I’m kinda surprised. He’s been around for years and is very talented. He was in a trios match with all the new young guys CMLL brought in and he outworked all of them. Showed them the ropes.
@thecubsfan: Do you really expect there to be a story, other than thinking its a cool name and just use it? There are so many guys who pop up with similar names, outside of using the more famous names (unless they add a Hijo or Jr. to it), that its not a surprising thing to see anymore. Some day I hope to attend a show were there is a trios match featuring SIX Huracan Ramirez’s!
I’m really, really hoping he likes bad 80s bands. I mean, shit, we could have a luchador named WHITE LION too
@tromataker: Well there is El Pantera ( BTW Pantera is not a bad band, just name dropping.)
THIS IS A MEAN UPDATE!
You know there are people who work on cmll.com and people who are affiliated with CMLL that read this blog occasionally so you’d think SOMEONE would make a comment trying to clarify things but I guess the non-important CMLL folks care as little about the product as the real important CMLL officials.
The Konnan/Cibernetico deal means Konnan can’t private message Ciber on adultfriendfinder.
I wait for the day that a luchador named Kajagoogoo makes his way onto the scene!
@Rob: CMLL STOLE MY STOLEN MEMPHIS IDEA FOR STRONGMAN DOING THE JOS LEDUC BUS PULLING TRICK!
STRONGMAN RULZ!!!!
@Alfredo: I’ve never even seen that clip. Is it something Kris put up on DVDVR? There’s a lot that today’s wrestling/lucha industry can learn from the old territories.
@LLL: The Jos Leduc thing is awesome. Here’s a video highlight of Jos Leduc in Memphis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4k5Ms1Phck
There is so much stuff out there that could be re-done in different places and there’s even some stuff that was done, but either by the wrong wrestlers, poorly executed or at a smaller level that would do well. Instead we get writers who started watching wrestling when ECW started or the WWE Attitude-era or because they watch Lost, they suddenly know what today’s wrestling fans want.
Someone needs to redo the cutting yourself with an axe for an oath to destroy someone
@Alfredo: *cough* moody jack *cough*
@Calabcd44
You’re right, Dorian vs Joaquin is Shane vs Vince from 1999 and again in 2001. How pathetic.
Not at all important and just things I think I remember, but I thought Flash/Fuego and Stuka had defended the titles once at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara and once at a Rey Buc nightclub show. Which would make this their third defense though none of them would have been at Arena Coliseo.
@Alfredo: I don’t expect a story more than
“My trainer came up with the name Black Tiger and I thought that was great, and then CMLL made me stop using the name for some reason I never understood because I’m sure I had it first, but now I’m back with it and it’s great to be the only real Black Tiger.”
Though I always hold out there’s more than that.
@Alan: The CLUB SHOW! That’s it – we never got a full lineup for that show, but I remember it being mentioned now that you mention it. (The GDL title match was a Misterioso idea no one listened to. Poor Misterioso.)
This was far from my best day.
@Alfredo: Thanks.
@Calabcd44
Exactly what I was going to say about the upcoming Joaquin/Dorian feud