11/21-22 Lucha Times

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AAA-US: 10/19 taping – WagnerManiacs vs Legion

52MX: The Okumura vs Maximo hair match, plus Terrible, Texano, Vangelis vs Mascara Dorada, Rouge, Toscano. Really, I (think I) get 52MX back on the week with a Rouge & Toscano trios match? Oh well.

CMLL: top 3, as Strong Man faces Peste Negra. I agree that there’s is something to Averno & Mistico facing off again.

AAA-MEX: the taping they’re doing RIGHT NOW. I’ll tell you about it tomorrow. If this actually airs on Sunday, it’s progress from AAA.

CMLL-FOX: Minis match, plus Panther/Garza/Shocker vs Felino/Negro/V5

AAA-FOX: last new episode from the October taping – mixed tag, and Ciber/Electro/Kenzo vs Elegido/Mesias/Marco

C3: top 4, with an opener that looks pretty good.

Puebla: 4:30pm this week. I have no idea what they’d cut this time – semimain is what I wouldn’t miss, but that doesn’t mean it’ll actually happen.

Monterrey: Chessman, Joe Lider, and Silver King as a rudo team. I’m sure it’ll be total technical wrestling.

IWRG: Seems like they’ve been airing the top two, which would make this easy. Except, they’re airing this about 2 weeks after the taping, which would mean this show would be the Ruleta de la Muerte show. Probably just that tournament, but not sure how much of it airs. And it is! The Suicida/Cerebro hair match set up last week, and the first match of Jack unmasked.

AAA taping tonight, Cibernetico, Perros fail, GDL

Today is AAA’s first TV taping in 18 days. AAA’s been hyping it up as Wagner announcing the stips for the Guerra de Titanes match. (Stipulation #1: Dr. Wagner is the only one who can win.) Otherwise, not much on the lineup.

Tomorrow, AAA says Cibernetico will hold a press conference to respond to Konnan’s comments. I guess this is happening at a press conference and not as part of the TV show because we’re still supposed to believe this is all not part of a TV show.

Yesterday (Tuesday), Perros del Mal posted a note that the Monterrey show with Perro Aguayo Jr. would be airing Monday (as in, the day before.) Fine work.

AAA talked to Alex Koslov about his upcoming trip to ROH.

Fuego en el Ring talks to Gallo and Egipico about their mask match. Gallo says he (like Rouge) was suffering from dengue, and so did not have the energy to escape the cage, and then was in shock about losing his mask. Gallo believes the restart after Egipico’s rope-assisted pin was just. Egipico actually also agrees. He admits he tried to cheat, but accepts the rules and the decision of the commissioner. Fuego also has interviews with Strong Man and Pierroth.

Box Y Lucha looks back at Wolf Rubinski, interviews fourth graders training to wrestle, and listens to Mr. Aguila & Perro Halloween demand new challengers. Maybe they can fight the fourth graders?

Newspaper columnist complains nothing happens in AAA and CMLL. Everything stays the same in AAA, and everything is forgotten after three weeks in CMLL. I think I’m going to offer him a spot on this website.

Cesar names Guerreros Tuareg as his runner up faction and trio of the year. The look is cool, but I have trouble going along with this when they never win anything. Other groups in the running for Trio of the year are Poder Mexica, Los Angels, Triada del Terror, and Ola Amarillo.

Kcidis has Maximo suffering the affects of the Yellow Wave.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks at Sangre Azteca & Cien Caras losing the tag team titles to Rayo & Tony Benetto and the many faces of Drago and Coloso.

Luchas 2000 has Mistico vs Tiger Mask.

Ras de Lona has Mistico & Mascarita Dorada swimming with dolphins.

11/17 Arena Mexico results

Who is this man?/CMLL
Who is this man?/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 11/17 Arena Mexico [ESTO, CMLL]
1) Ángel Azteca Jr. & Apolo Estrada Jr. b Camorra & Zayco
2) Astro Boy, Delta, Trueno b Bronco, Calígula, Méssala
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Pólvora b Fabián el Gitano, Flash, Rouge
4) Máximo, Metro, Toscano b Euforia, Nosferatu, Vangelis
5) Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Shocker

Negro stole Dorada’s mask, then pulled him in a ‘rana for the win. Dorada still wants the title match, Negro still is blowing him off.

Semimain was an unnotable tecnico win, but also the debut of a new ref – “El Guero”. I’m guessing this is the first product of Ultimo Guerrero’s referee training program.

Who’s the bearded man hanging out with the Tuareg lately? He was there with Arkangel on Friday. There’s probably an obvious explanation I’m missing.

11/17 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara

CMLL (TUE) 11/17 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Angelo & Thunder Boy b Skaxy & Titanio
2) In Memoria & Malefico b Nube Roja & Virgo
3) Hierro, Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro b Ángel del Mal, Asesino Negro, Rey Trueno
4) Pequeño Damian 666 & Pequeño Warrior b Meteoro & Saturno
5) Brazo de Plata & Héctor Garza b Naito & Yujiro

Brazo de Plata got the pin on No Limit.

Google translates Damain’s nickname to “the killer zucchini”. With Dorada apparently out with whatever injury he suffered on Sunday, zucchini and partner beat the locals clean.

about the NJPW/CMLL meeting

SuperLuchas was a day out ahead of everyone else; CMLL sent up a press release about the meeting. R de Rudo was the rare exception of actually adding to it, so I’ll point you there.

There actually wasn’t much news here – there’s plans to do stuff, but nothing definite itself. It seems like that’s as much a timing issue as anything – NJPW’s not going to want to announce much about it’s 01/04 show until the end of it’s next tour, while CMLL isn’t going to put a date or names to anyone coming in until the last moment. Everything at this point is just plans, which may or may not happen, and the stuff they’re putting out (who might go where) is not as important to this deal as other points (how much they’re getting paid.)

CMLL says they’d like to see Sombra, Terrible, Texano Jr. go to Japan next. If Terrible & Texano are going to face No Limit in a hair match in the next month, a rematch in Japan makes a lot of sense. Sombra in the upcoming Super J tournament would make sense, though that’s just what I’ve been guessing.

NJPW’s mentioned as possible sending Tanahashi & Nakamura, probably their two biggest active stars. Which is probably not going to happen, outside maybe a week in between tours. CMLL is more likely to get more young guys on long term trips; it’s still a good environment for their wrestlers to learn, and CMLL can build up a young guy as well as they can a Japanese star who’s not already known in Mexico. Whomever comes, they won’t be coming until February of 2010, which is a friendly signal to ignore January 2010.

11/15 IWRG Results

IWRG (SUN) 11/15 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Hijo del Signo b Mascara Magnifica
2) Bracito de Platino & Octagoncito b Mascarita Año 2000 & Piratita Morgan
3) La Diabólica b Flor Metalica [METRO Women]
4) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro b Freelance, Jack, Trauma I
5) Angelico, Bobby Lee Jr., Olímpico b Fuerza Guerrera, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan

For those with a passing interest, the Sunday show is the one turning up on Teleforumla (note to self: start charting it.) Thursday is still TVC Deportes.

They’re doing a Bobby Lee Jr. vs Fuerza Guerrera feud in the main event, with Lee surprising Fureza with a roll up for the win.

Semimain is mostly about Jack’s wanting revenge on the Oficials. He had 911 beat here, but 911 managed to sneak in a foul with the ref seeing it for the win. Rematch/hair match challenges after.

In that Fantasma interview with SuperLuchas, he did the usual commissioner bit where he vows to get rid of all the non-regulated titles. Start with this women’s title, please. Diabolica retained the title that’s never been mentioned with her before, with a lot of help from Hijo del Signo.

This title was listed as Metropoltian Women’s championship; presumably from the same sancationing body that gave Violencia his title back in the day. I have no records of a previous Metro Women’s title, but there was a Mexico City women’s title floating around as recently as 2004 (Marcela last champ; this would’ve been just as they were restarting the CMLL division.)

After her successful defense, La Diabolica did a video interview with The Gladiatores. And of course, the Gladiatores will be doing their live broadcast of tomorrow’s show @ radio.thegladiatores.com.