10/24-25 Lucha Times

box. I don’t know if the Perros are airing. But they do have a press conference on Friday. Edit: Perros del Mal facebook says they’re airing Sunday on 4TV, same 10:3o time. I bet it’ll be the best two matches that didn’t air.

AAA-MEX: Part 2 of Heroes Immortales, including Chessman/Electro hair match.

52MX: cage match seems to happen here, plus the minis match.

CMLL-MEX: top 3 should include No Limit/Okumura vs Warrior/Panther/Garza, Averno/Volador’s title match, and more Strong Man vs Ultimo Guerrero

AAA-MEX: Clowns vs WagnerManiacs, and a whole lot of other things going on.

AAA-FOX: should be the last new episode from the first taping, with women and Wagner/mesias/Rocky vs Cibernetico/Kenzo/Sugi

CMLL-FOX: Strong Man vs Ultimo Guerrero

C3: No Limit for Avernos, Felino/Dorada have something go badly wrong.

Puebla: no women’s match is the easiest guess ever

Monterrey: AAA!

10/30 AAA TV Lineup (Poza Rica)

AAA (FRI) 10/30 Gimansio Miguel Hidalgo, Poza Rica, Veracruz [luchalibreaaa]
1) Relampago & Tribal vs American Rebelde & Jesse
2) Crazy Boy, Decnnis, Gato Eveready vs Rió Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana
3) Fabi Apache, Gran Apache, Mari Apache vs ?, Rain, Teddy Hart
4) Laredo Kid, Octagón, Súper Fly vs Joe Lider, Mantra, Nicho el Millionario
5) Marco Corleone, Pimpinela Escarlata, Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov, Konnan, Zorro
6) Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, Último Gladiador vs El Mesías, Extreme Tiger, La Parka Jr.

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#912)
Mexico: 11/08
US: 11/21

So let’s start with: MANTRA? (??????)

There’s no way that opener is airing. But it’s nice to know who’s working it.

I need to start listing Decnnis as a tecnico. Funny how, of the course of a couple months, they’ve moved from a Decnnis/Billy Boy team to a Decnnis/Gato Eveready team. If only they could team up all three at the same time, what a trio they would make. Everyone sees that I’m not calling Tito Santana “Tito Santana”, and have stopped using the “II”. Everyone understand that I mean the stringy haired Poder del Norte, and not anyone ever in WWE? Great. I would think about doing the same for La Parka Jr., but I don’t want to get an angry all caps comment.

The ? spot is for a woman, so either it was scheduled to be Nikki Roxx and they’re officially giving up on that, or they’re just not sure if Jennifer Blake will be around. I don’t expect the spot to be meaningful.

Is Hermandad/Air Force a feud? Should’ve been more careful when I asked for them to give Laredo Kid & Super Fly something to do.

There’s clearly something going on with Pimpi – over the last few TV tapings, he’s suddenly been put in the top 3 matches. Sad to see Zorro fall back in which such bad company.

Being an even numbered show, Wagner is a rudo. I may be making that up or I may have just cracked the system. I don’t want to find out.

the problem with CMLL tecnico groups

This is going to descend into a list post. Your time may be better spent watching part 1, part 2 and part 3 of the Perros del Mal debut show.

Diaro de Yucatan (picking it up from El Universal?) has my favorite article of the week: a serious discussion of CMLL is out of balanced in favor of the rudos. I don’t know about that being actually true, but if you’re willing to conceded it, you have to like the all the work to get actual quotes for people involved. Some tecnicos suggest it’s because CMLL doesn’t support tecnicos groups, and Panico says it’s up to the tecnicos to make their own groups because that’s what rudos did. (Really?) They explore tecnicos not being able to get along, and of course Mistico & Garza snipe at each other. They point out the fans seem to be more behind rudos, and many are switching that way.

Early on, the article claims there are only 13 tecnico stars: Mistico, Garza, Shocker, Panther, Toscano, Maximo, Fantasma, Mascara, Volador, Sombra, Mascara Dorada, Stuka and Valiente. I’m glad we all can agree Mictlan is not star, but it’s the suggestion there’s 25 star rudos that seems surprising. Let’s see if I can work them out (in no real order)

  1. Atlantis
  2. Averno
  3. Black Warrior
  4. Dragon Rojo Jr.
  5. Felino
  6. Heavy Metal
  7. Mephisto
  8. Misterioso – on the level of Stuka & Valiente, surely
  9. Mr. Niebla
  10. Negro Casas
  11. Sangre Azteca
  12. Terrible
  13. Naito
  14. Ultimo Guerrero
  15. Yujiro
  16. Hijo de Lizmark – article seems written before his jump
  17. Okumura – ???
  18. Satanico – still a star
  19. Euforia – starting to reach; hard to argue Flash shouldn’t be on the first list when including these guys
  20. Nosferatu
  21. Virus

How do you get the other four? Can’t include the Tuareg, which would mean a lot more tecnicos should be included. Whom am I missing? Same with the minis and the women.

Anyway, if I circle back around to a point worth making, CMLL’s problem isn’t in quantity, it’s CMLL not giving keeping tecnico acts going from show to show, and keeping groups together. It’s either indicative of how quickly things get forgot, or how old article this is, that the Super Sky Team isn’t mentioned. (Garza’s group is considered to be only him, Mascara, and Fantasma, which may come as to news to Hector Garza.)

For my money, Toscano and Garza are completely right and Panico is full of it.The tecnicos are jumbled together in random combination for every match, never teaming any group long enough to get momentum unless they happen to be challenging for titles at that moment. (12 shows DF per month, and Flash & Stuka team up an average of 1 of them.) Meanwhile, rudos teams are always kept together – No Limit rarely wrestle separately, and they’ve got Mendoza as a third for no apparent reason except to give them a permanent third, Poder Mexico usually has at least 2 in any match where there’s 1, the Avernos team are always booked together, the Guerreros (both of them!) are always booked together.

If CMLL wanted to get a tecnico trio over, they could do it in a month – as long as they didn’t completely give up on it the next month. They were actually doing it with something as dumbly named as “Super Sky Team”, and stopped booking them together too. It’s simple: there are no strong CMLL tecnico groups because CMLL doesn’t want unified tecnico groups.

Porky returns in GDL, Gran Davis Jr., Bucanero

CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
5) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto DQ Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Yujiro

More tomorrow, I hope.

CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Acertijo & Ebola b El Divino & Saturno
2) Ángel del Mal & Drago b Hierro & Palacio Negro
3) Lady Apache & Marcela b Hiroka & Princesa Blanca
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo b Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Black Warrior, Terrible, Texano Jr. b Brazo de Plata, Héctor Garza, Shocker

Porky is back. And on the losing side. Texano got in a foul on Garza.

Semimain ended with Sangre and Mascara in the ring, and you can put the rest together. Saturno took himself out on a dive in the opener, leaving his partner to go 1 on 2.

Wrestler Gran Davis Jr. was murdered this past week. He’s been wrestling in Laguna recently (including in a couple hair matches last month, as well as working as butcher, and is the son of the famous referee. Gran Davis Jr., who also wrestled as Tor-Ver, was really Osvaldo Patino Cabrera, 34 years old. He was one of three men who’s bodies were found dumped in a box outside of a school. Osvaldo and another man where last thought to be going to a bar, riding in the third man’s taxi. The news reports say there were signs of torture.

Rey Bucanero will not be back until 2010. Rey tore his ACL in his left knee hurt back in May, and was expected to be out over six months, so this is a slight push back. Bucanero explains the doctor will probably clear him to return in December, but it’ll take a while to get back in ring shape, so he may not make it back in 2009. Rey wants another match with Ephesto so they can go all the way to the outcome. In the mean time, he’s promoting another nightclub show on 10/30 in Tecamac.

Is this AAA’s twitter account? Or someone else pretending? Or will this be already clear by the time I posted it? Need to update the links to add on

Bolivian Wrestling has photos of South American champion Javier Lee.

R De Rudo has photos of a Matematico exhibition at Blue Demon Jr.’s gallery. That mask at the end with 6s for eyes and 8s for noses and mouths is the best.

The governor of Colima honored wrestler TNT, at a presentation of a documentary about TNT’s life.

Hijo del Santo spoke about ocean conservation at the California Science Cetner yesterday. There’s video at the link.

El Sol de Tulancingo profiles retired wrestler Sombra del Peru.

Box Y Lucha #2944 has Black Warrior bald.

Luchas 2000 #492 has Warrior bald and Dragoncito hurt. Dragoncito hands, arms, and face all look burnt or bruised – he looks in rough shape. There’s also an interview with Cassandro where he accuses TNA of being homophobic, and Leobrado Magadan’s column where he rips Dos Caras Jr. and WWE for having him wrestle unmasked in FCW.

CMLL (MON) 10/26 Arena Puebla
1) Karisma & Policeman vs Asturiano & Centella de Oro
2) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia vs Bracito de Oro, Eléctrico, Shockercito
3) Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca vs Máximo, Metro, Rouge
4) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto vs Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Valiente
5) Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Texano Jr. vs La Sombra, Strong Man, Volador Jr.

CMLL’s started to refer Electrico as “Pequeno Electrico” the last week. Nothing like being your own mini.

10/23 AAA/LLP Lineup (Mexico City)

AAA (FRI) 10/23 Teatro Condesa, DF []luchalibreaaa]
1) Jennifer Blake, Octagóncito, Rocky Romero vs Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro, Sexy Star
2) Fabi Apache & Pimpinela Escarlata vs Polvo de Esterllas & Rain
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Jack Evans vs Alex Koslov & Teddy Hart
4) Cibernético, Electroshock, Kenzo Suzuki vs El Elegido, El Mesías, Marco Corleone

Lucha Libre Premier #2
MEX: 11/08?, 11/22?
US: uh, never?

This looks like the next Lucha Libre Premier taping. It’s theatre instead of a normal buidling (though not one I can seem to find on Google.) It’s four matches, the same as the last FSE taping and unlike the normal shows.

AAA hasn’t announced a additional Saturday taping, so maybe they’re going to do tapings more often? Or maybe they’ll figure that out as they go. Since every new show gets reaired the following week, this could last them a month.

Jennifer Blake on the tecnico side of the opener makes no real sense – that should be Goddess or Cinthia or Mari – but I’d guess they’ve decided that if they’re paying for her to be there, they need to use her. Wagner being a tecnico on occasioan is not new, but Cibernetico still appears to be on the rudo side.

3rd match could be pretty fun.