CMLL (SUN) 04/05 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [nohayfianza @ box y lucha, mt 4, 5]
4) Dos Caras Jr., Sagrado, Volador Jr. b Heavy Metal, Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero
5) Texano Jr. b Atlantis [NWA LH]
Texano Jr. defated Atlantis for the NWA Light Heavyweight Championship in Guadalajara last night. That’d the first singles title for Texano Jr., who also currently hold the Occidente (GDL) Tag Team Titles with Terrible. Add in his two fall hair victory over Maximo in the sasme building, and Texano’s the king of Guadalajara at the moment.
Match sounds completely clean. Texano got Atlantis with a submission in the first fall, Atlantis came back and won the second fall with a plancha, the third fall featured the usual spots (tapatia! caverneria!) and Texano snuck in a small package for teh win.
In the semifinal, Dos is back to being a jerk. His partners still managed to win the match despite Dos’ non participation, Volador getting Rey with a guillotine legdrop. The rudos invited him over to their side (wait, why would you want him if he’s not wrestling? rudos need better plans) but Dos also refused to make a decision. If this was real, I would hope the promoter would refuse to pay him.
CMLL (SUN) 04/05 Arena Coliseo [Ovaciones]
1) Rayo Tapatio I & Rayo Tapatio II b Caligula & Messala
2) Leono, Metalico, Tigre Blanco b Bronco III, Puma King, Tiger Kid
3) La Seductora, Princesa Sujei, Rosa Negra b Lluvia, Marcela, Sahori
4) Hijo del Fantasma, La Mascara, Mascara Dorada b Ephesto, Felino, Lizmark Jr.
5) Blue Panther, Hector Garza, Shocker DQ Averno, Mephisto, Ray Mendoza Jr.
Mendoza fouled Panther in the third fall for the DQ. Rosa Negra pinned Marcela, and off of all of that, they’ll be having a mask vs hair match next week. I’m thinking the barber can take the day off. I don’t want to be down on Rosa Negra, she’s seems good whenever I get to actually see here, but it’s kinda tough to believe someone’s going to win a big singles match when they have zero singles matches (meaningful or not) wins ever. I mean, here’s the complete list of “Rosa Negra” singles matches in the big CMLL arenas:
2007-07-08 Arena Coliseo 2) Marcela b Rosa Negra
You may be saying to yourself “how odd that they would have a non-stip women singles match in CMLL” and that is right, it would be odd – that’s a Toryumon Mexico match. These three weeks feuds, based all in trios matches, with someone dropping their hair or mask, continue to be anti-climatic and boring, whether they’re men or women involved. I hope the match is really good (if they give it time, it really should be) but I wish they’d find a better way of doing these.
Rosa Negra vs Marcela has a pretty good shot at beating Ultimo Guerrero vs Villano V, doesn’t it? If you could somehow transport both matches to a void of non-fan reaction (like last night’s WM main event?)
indy (SUN) 04/05 Arena Solidaridad [Proyeccion Luchistica]
1) Baby Fox, Sky, Turbina b Boomerang, Kokox Klan, Misionero
2) Black Demon, Mongol Chino Jr., Sexy Psicis b Axl, Burrito, Furor
3) Monje Negro II, Monje Negro III, Monje Negro Jr. b Centurion Negro, Karonte, Mongol Chino
4) Histeria, Maniaco, Psicosis II b Diluvio Negro I, Estrella Dorado Jr., Gato Volador
5) Antifaz del Norte, Hator, Super Porky b Aventurero, Diluvio Negro II, La Park
Porky replaced Blue Demon, who was said to be injuried on the ROH card (which could explain his ROH performance – or he could just be Blue Demon.) Antifaz and Park are tag team champs of some sort, but not after this match – Hator got away with a foul on Park while wearing Antifaz, then Park challenged Antifaz to find a partner and he’d find a partner and they’d have a match.
Speaking of ROH, Night 2 results were:
– Kevin Steen, Jay Briscoe, Magno, Generico b Chris Hero, Eddie Edwards, Incognito, Dave Richards
– Brent Albright b Claudio Castagnoli & Blue Demon Jr.
– Roderick Strong b Alex Koslov
Reports live say Alex impressed, Magno & Incognito were okay, and Blue Demon was Blue Demon.
WagnerMania looks at the regulations of remasking and how well it’s enforced (spoiler: badly.) This gets me thinking about something I wanted to talk about yesterday:
El Fantasma publicly suspending Konnan and asking other commissioners to do it in their areas it very strange in retrospect. It’s not a surprise other commissions have chosen to ignore it; if we figured that might happen, Fantasma and company surely did as well. I don’t think the general public knew it was going to happen, though. I think the average fan sees the lucha libre commissions as more ineffectual, not using their power when they could, rather than actually powerless. The commissions can be a nuisance at most, and only if they really press, and acting like they can do more than that and being unable to deliver only destroys their illusion of having power. So why would they try this? Self delusion about their power and reach? Pressure from fellow wrestlers to do something, even just symbolic?
Al Filo del Ring has an interview with Dr. Wagner Jr., who’s so invested in working independents and AAA that he’s still complaining about not working in CMLL. They also talk to Angelico, who’s a South American who moved to Spain and wrestled in NWE before being brought to Mexico.
WagnerMania also has vied of Santo, Wagner, Park vs Damian 666, Mr. Aguila and Perro Aguayo Jr from Arena Neza.
SuperLucha notes the 66th Anniversary of the opening of Arena Coliseo.
The Gladiatores looks around Gimnasio Latinoamericano, where both Skayde and Gran Apache teach their classes (and was been show on AAA TV during the Apache bits.)
Hablando de Catch looks at Veneno’s real job of making masks, boots, and gear. Did you know there’s a Veneno blog? I don’t know how I missed out on that.
Box Y Lucha has the trios champions retaining the titles.
Ohtani’s Jacket looks back at El Signo vs Villano V
OH GOD! I read the El Signo vs. Villano V comment and didn’t realize which Villano it was (ignoring the roman numerals) and had a flashback to the CMLL site promising to release a show some 7-8 years ago on VHS and thought Ohtani’s Jacket had found the match while surfing the net.:)
While i completely agree that the Lucha Commissions are a complete joke; not punishing Konnan and/or AAA sets a dangerous precedence. AAA, so far, has done a good job of just brushing this off as nothing. At the same time, I don’t think most of the boys in the back are brushing this off. If there was little doubt that Konnan wears the ‘Pants’ in AAA, those have doubts have vanished. I can’t see morale in AAA being very high right now.
@Alfredo: I’m still waiting for Litok Vera to e-mail me back about where to send my payment!
On the bright side Cubs – we’ll finally be able to clear up who Rosa Negra is. I’m 99.9% sure she’ll be revealed as the ex-La Andromeda who was one of only four women CMLL regularly employed during the late 90’s and early this decade but disapeared.
It’s unbelievable how fast CMLL has turned into a promotion known for doing stip matches on a weekly basis pretty much. They used to never do any (see: 2005/2006), began to give away random hair matches (2007/2008) and this year – mainly thanks to the fan appreciation shows – they’ve just gone wild sacrificing both masks and hairs. No important losses though which devalues stip matches. I wonder how long it’ll be till this bites them in the ass. It also sets a terrible precedence for the future.
Veneno has been known to rip people off and flee to Panama until things cool down. Just thought you’d want the entire story.;)
I find it hilarious that SuperLuchas continues to constantly point out the NWA doesn’t recognize CMLL’s NWA Titles.
WHO CARES???
The NWA LHW Title is probably the most important title in Mexico. It has been held by legends, defended all over the world and produced fantastic matches. Do we really care that the new NWA doesn’t recogize the belt? The new NWA runs shows in restaurants, can’t draw more than 200 people, has fake Dinamitas headlining shows and their champ is BLUE FRIGGIN’ DEMON JR. – one of the worst wrestlers in Mexico.
I think it’s time everyone stopped recognizing the new NWA.
I’d love to see Ric Flair do an angle in CMLL surrounding those NWA belts.
Fredo. Did you go to AAA in LA?
@LLL: Fredo fears Pimpi so I doubt it.;)
@Rob: You keep forgetting SuperLuchas is an official associate of the (new) NWA. I hope they correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that was what the deal was (and if so, maybe they can explain what the deal is with Turbo’s belt?)
Effectively, is there any difference in the NWA recognizing or not recognizing the belt? It was a title that was just in EMLL before and is just in CMLL now.
Mistico returning to Japan in May along with Misterioso II this time!
05/05
Mistico, Hiroshi Tanahashi, & Tiger Mask vs. Giant Bernard, Black Tiger, & Misterioso II
05/05
Mistico & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Hirooki Goto & Misterioso II
@JB: Thanks! I just was watching Ras de Lona where this was off handed mentioned (and in a segue from Dragon Rojo to Misterioso, so I wasn’t sure I heard that right.) Misterioso is a much better idea than Dragon Rojo and very deserving of the opportunity.
LOL. I was watching Nocturninos on LATV, and the host, Villalobos, was going off on LATV for repeating episodes. I think Ras de Lona was a repeat last week, while the CMLL show on Saturday seems to air in a timely fashion.
@JB: Awesome! Mixing it up with regulars this time and Misterioso II is a far better catcher than Dragon Rojo. He also seems to be a smarter worker and will get in his own offense (hopefully) unlike Mephisto’s poor showing.
Misterioso 2 rules.
Cubs is right about the endless stips in CMLL. It’s their version of the run-in or long promo I guess. And with WWE running Palacio last Saturday in May, I figure they’ll have a big show at ArMex the night before. Maybe even move “Juicio Final” to May this year.
@LLL: Nope. I watched Wrestlemania with some friends.
@Alfredo: Did you imagine Joe Lider and Extreme Tiger in the Money/Ladder match? I did.
@LLL: Yes, I did and if AAA didn’t do that type of match almost monthly, I probably would have liked the MITB match more. AAA has killed that gimmick match for me.
@Alfredo: Did you notice that “New York” got the biggest heel heat when JBL said it’s his home? Why is New York such a heel to the rest of America?
I wonder how many ladder stunts AAA will copy and try to outdo at the next taping? Scary.
@LLL: New York got so much heel heat because he was in Texas when he said it. For some reason, we take a great affront to such a thing. Probably because New York thinks itself to be hot shit, when we Texans know we’re better. Call me biased, but you know I’m right…
Juvi will be on In Your Head Radio tomorrow night at 8PM ET. http://www.inyourheadonline.com/. Should be interesting.
Isn’t the hosts real cool with Konnan?
@John G.: No one thinks they’re more hot shit than a Texan. You people fly that flag around like it’s more important than the American flag. No one is as separatist as a Texan.
Calm down. I’ll settle this one.
You’re both arrogant Americans. Take it from a peaceful Canadian.;)