02/04-05 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Last taping of 2008. One more KENTA match, Clowns vs Sect in the main event, and the debut of the new Espectro de Ultratumba and the new Mini Psicosis. Still waiting for the second TV match for Espectro.

LATV/FS: Finally, the women’s title match. Perhaps the first match in this feud to get seven minutes? Also, Coliseo main event.

52MX: just randomness.


CMLL: Villanos/Terrible vs Laguneros, Rey de Aires vs Atlantis/Niebla/Negro II

AAA-MEX: Chessman vs Ozz, Jack/Teddy/Electro vs the Air Force, Mesias/Parka/King vs Hermandad/Kenzo

C3: Trios Title match.

2008 Tapatia Award Thoughts

– If you’re looking for exact match dates, or ones you might have missed, check out the lists on the luchawiki and on DVDVR.

– For the purpose of voting, you can treat CMLL Puebla (and CMLL Guadalajara) as a different promotion/territory than CMLL DF.

– I totally want to encourage discussion of the awards before they’re voted on, I’m just not sure how. Maybe this post is enough, maybe I need something stick-ied? Let me know.

– If you care enough about lucha libre to fill out a ballot and send it to me, I am perfectly fine with you doing so. There is no eligibility exam or entrance requirement; if you care enough to vote, that’s good enough.

I’m not just doing a click poll because writing the picks in an e-mail forces a little more effort and a little more thought, but don’t over think it.

AAA Notes: TripleMania Date, Location Announced, Cibernetico returning?

AAA posted a bunch of news last night.

– not only is Rey de Reyes confirmed to be March 15 in Plaza de Toros Nuevo Progreso in Guadalajara, TripleMania is announced to be June 13th in Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City.

Seems very early to announce that, especially considering they don’t even list the TV taping dates for this month (02/07’s lineup just went up.) I don’t know what it means. Maybe nothing.

– Rey De Reyes will have a 16 wrestler field, as usual. Unlike last year, it doesn’t appear everyone will have to qualify to be in the match. A news update declares Silver King is the first entrant. Probably not going to win, though he looks better than a month ago.

– the latest WON says Cibernetico is talking to AAA about his eventual return. Working as an indy is not working out. He could be back as early as March (it’s not definite). Later there’s a oblique mention of the main event picture changing after Rey de Reyes, which would probably make sense for Cibernetico’s return and a change of ‘Konnan running AAA’ status quo.

– the WON also mentions AAA plans on taping for TV during it’s US tour, probably in Los Angeles (04/04) and Las Vegas (which they actually haven’ t announced as running?)

– AAA’s site is running a poll, asking people if they want to see Vampiro return to the ring. As if you thought he really might not.

Update: AAA just announced Charly Manson will return on 02/18 in Parque de Beisbol de Celaya, Guanajuato. (Which also says that taping is that day.) Match is Charly/Latin Lover/X-Pac vs Konnan/Zorro/Electroshock.

02/04: Mexico (new champs), GDL

CMLL (TUE) 02/03 Arena Mexico [ESTO, Ovaciones, WiLlYeR @ el martinete]
1) Angel de Plata & Súper Camaleón b Apocalipsis & Ministro
2) Arkangel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skandalo b Astro Boy, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
3) Mascara Dorada, Máscara Púrpura, Valiente b Shigeo Okumura, Vangelis, Virus
4) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Marco Corleone b Heavy Metal, Lizmark Jr., Texano Jr.
5) Black Warrior, Dragon Rojo Jr., Sangre Azteca b La Sombra, Sagrado, Volador Jr. [MEX TRIOS]

Tecs(/champs) won the first fall, rudos won the second. Warrior took out both Sombra and Sagrado with a tope and Sangre and Rojo beat Volador (captain) to win the titles. Poder Mexica becomes the 28th champions.

This is Dragon Rojo’s first championship of any kind (he’s also the Gran Alternativa winner.) It’s the first time Warrior has won these titles, though it’s the 3rd different vareity of trios championship he’s won (3 times CMLL, 1 time DF.) Sangre held these titles back in 2005, beating a Volador team that time as well. Poder Mexica is now 6-0 in Arena Mexico since Christmas, and every single win has come against a team with Sagrado on it.

Sagrado’s really the guy who looks out of the mix here. Looking at the bigger picture, Volador and Sombra trading these titles for the CMLL Tag titles is a step up for them. Sagrado doesn’t seem to have something else ready to go, and has been passed up by Fanatasma and La Mascara in the Young Tecnico depth chart. Sagrado is now in the Valiente/Purpura/Dorada waiting for something to happen zone. Best possible idea I can came up with is Sagrado leads some of the other extra against Poder Mexica as a spot show semimain this spring.

Now that Poder Mexica have won the titles, it’ll be worth watching to see if they keep teaming, or if they lose interest.

SuperLuchas is eager to see the two trios title combined into one, to make it clear which one is important. I feel that way about a lot of the weight belts, but I’m okay with two separate trios belts – the world titles are the top team, the national team is a little lower, and it increases the chances that one of them will actually be in play at any time.

ESTO has the wrong finish for the tercera.

CMLL (TUE) 02/03 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [MT]
5) La Nazi & Princesa Blanca b Amapola & Sahori [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Averno, Mephisto, Terrible DQ Gallo, Mictlán, Shocker

Terrible booted Shocker for the DQ. Gallo subbed for Maximo here, and the semimain was all changed around.

Box Y Lucha #2908 has Marco & Perro in Solo Para Mujeres. Inside, there’s a headline teasing a mask match between Ice Killer and Robotman (which surely would be airing on AAA’s equivalant of CMLL’s Arena Puebla show in an alternate universe.) Also, Brazo de Oro is retiring! Again.

Luchas 2000 #456 and this week’s Ras de Lona both have stories about Ultimo Guerrero’s surprise – the introduction of Ultimo Guerrero Jr.

Hablando de Catch has lots of photos of the El Luchador art exhbition. SuperLuchas has more on the panel discussion too.

El Siglo de Torreon updates the local lucha situation: only 11 of 160 wrestlers have gotten licensed so far, there’s a push for more consistent medical personel at shows (if only to stop people from going to the ring drunk, which apparently happened last weekend) and Deportivo Los Soberanos has new management.

Ohtani’s Jacket watches matches from the 01/23/09 UWE show and then goes back and watches a match from when LLI actually did exist.

La WagnerMania links to video of Santo & Olimpico vs Wagner & Veneno and talks to a lucha libre artist.

SuperLuchas looks back at Bam Bam Bigelow’s debut in Mexico and the rematch


CMLL (TUE) 02/10 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Poseidon vs Relampago Azul
2) Samurai vs Milenio
3) Bommerang vs Rey Trueno
4) Magnum vs Mr. Trueno
5) Gallo vs Máscara Mágica
6) Satánico & Shigeo Okumura vs Mictlán & Neutrón
7) Místico & Volador Jr. vs Atlantis & Último Guerrero

This should do well. Watching the Puebla shows, it’s extremely apparently how much a difference still Mistico makes – almost 3x the crowd when he’s on the show. Notice the women aren’t showing up after one loses the hair match, so I hope they get it cut all the way in the ring.

AAA stuff in a bit.