11/01: Mexico, NWA Mexico, Lineup

CMLL (FRI) 10/31 Arena Mexico [superluchas, ovaciones, ESTO]
1) Ángel Azteca Jr. & Metálico b Puma King & Tiger Kid
2) Mascarita Dorada, Nino de Acero, Tzuki b Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
3) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto b Dragon Rojo Jr., La Sombra, Misterioso II
4) Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Último Guerrero b Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero DQ Dos Caras Jr., Héctor Garza, Marco Corelone

Los Perros del Mal are no more in CMLL. Damian 666 and Mr. Aguila are indeed gone, and were replaced by the Triad of Terror. Averno & Mephisto ripped off and ripped up their Perros del Mal gear. Texano’s status is unclear. All the coverage says Averno’s group was “Triad”, which would presumably mean it’s only 3 big, but CMLL.com teases more members to come. I think we’re supposed to forgot about the post-Perros faction announced just last week and be surprised if/when they join up again.

Niebla faked a foul from Corelone in the main event to draw the DQ.

Villanos lost in two falls yet again, getting DQed for excessive violence in the first, then V3 being armbared by Panther for the match. Panther/V3 and UG/V5 apuesta challenged were made by the Laguneros, but it doesn’t seem like we’re getting any closer.

Mistico appeared to let everyone know he’s back next week.

According to SuperLuchas, Daniel Aceves will be the announced as new president of NWA Mexico and tonight’s show. Aceves is a Mexican wrestling silver medalist in the Olympics (in 1984, the only medalist in wrestling in Mexican history). He’s also the son of Bobby Bonales, a 40-50s EMLL wrestler who happens to be a former NWA champion. He’s been in various sports administration jobs in his post-athletic career.

The Gladiatores has a video interview with Blue Demon after his title win.

Hijo del Santo is still telling people he doesn’t think Perro is any more independent than Wagner, but would like to have some matches with him if he could. Santo’s back in Europe at the end of this month and planning the next big show in Mexico on 02/25/09.

Arturo Rivera’s column mostly talks about recent AAA storylines (Cibernetico quitting, what group will Charly join?)

Black Shadow will be honored today in Leon.

ATTENTION CMLL & AAA: mask/gear makers Deportes Martinez report 50% of their sales are from outside the country via their website. How much money do the promotions leave on the table each and every day because they don’t have a good software to sell their merchandise or don’t have merchandise to sell at all

Luchaworld has KrisZ’s news update, CMLL TV on 09/01/06 and the first couple of FSE shows

Next Friday’s lineup

CMLL (FRI) 11/07 Arena Mexico
1) Ángel Azteca Jr. & Angel de Oro vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Marcela vs Amapola, Medussa, Princesa Sujei
3) Máximo, Mictlán, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Felino, Misterioso II
4) La Máscara, La Sombra, Mascara Dorada vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Héctor Garza, Marco Corelone, Místico vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

I’m pretty sure they’re trying with this lineup. And we know who Mascara Dorada isn’t.

AAA announced their last taping of the year, the one that usually doesn’t air until 2009, will be on 12/19 in Chilpancingo, about when and where it usually is. That article makes it sound like Guerra de Titanes is the only yet to be announced taping, which means they’ll have two best of episodes to close out the year.

38 thoughts to “11/01: Mexico, NWA Mexico, Lineup”

  1. Surprising. I thought the Cerebros were losing for sure.

    Mascarita never ended up introducing his big version so the entire angle must be a cmll.com invention. It also means there is a 0% chance of the mini’s making normal TV.:( Time to beg for Guerreros Del Ring again…

    Nobody next Friday really had a chance of being re-gimmicked so I’m not sure we’ve narrowed down the guesses at all. I’d say it’s still between Metalik (GDL lineups speak volumes) and Astro Boy.

    Looking forward to watching the tercera from last night although ideally they show the mini’s instead of the main event.

  2. Yes, the time change happened last week.

    But it will be back next week or this one? I think today they’ll have the show where Shocker no showed (yes, I know that doesn’t say much)

  3. So we haven’t had our time change yet. That means… CMLL in… 1 hour and a half and C3 at 9 instead of 8?

  4. Someone brought up Super Nova’s name on the SuperLuchas page. Is he still working for NWE or could he be Dorada?

  5. The TV must be done earlier in the week since Aguila, Damian and Efesto were in the video to hype the tercera.


    That was UNREAL! The most perfect Venum-style tornillo since… Venum in 1997!

  7. STUPID THIRD FALL EDIT! But what an awesome headscissor spot to the floor! Sombra is without a doubt the innovative wrestler of the year.

  8. Ha, Ringo derailed the thread…

    CMLL will have 4 hours next week, so I guess they’ll have top 3 from each show.

  9. If Damian and Aguila are gone, there are little to none chances of the opener making it to TV, actually, I guess the Especial won’t make it, but the match with Corleone seems more like it.

  10. BTW, any chance we’ll get another ‘Mascara’ gimmick down the road to put together a fun trio? Mascara Purpura, Mascara Dorada and Mascara… something.

    La Mascara doesn’t count b/c he isn’t a color! And he fucking blows.

  11. It’d be better if Astro Boy was Mascara Dorada so at some point we could do a feud with Mascara Dorada, Mascara Purpura and La Mascara vs Metalico, Metalik and Metal Blanco. Just to drive Cubs batshit.

  12. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Sombra just blew what might have been the best dive ever.:( I hope he tries it again next week and hits it.

  13. @Rob: Gemelos are opening match guys having a brief run at the “top” with the Cerebros feud, now they’ll be back to where ever they came from.

    Pics show the place empty, don’t know why is IWRG running against itself with a mask cage match a couple of days after this show.

  14. This Torneo was booked so weird. Why would you match Pirata against two of the only flyers in the match – Tiger and Aero Star? That limits everything they can do and in Aero Star’s case, it was just a quick squash for Pirata. Whoever booked the match is no Pat Patterson.

  15. That mini’s match from today was the best example of why the division absolutely blows right now. I mean… it’s perfectly acceptable wrestling but it’s a 100% pointless division to have around if you’re doing nothing with it.

    The three main problems were clearly shown:

    1. All the mini tecnicos have the exact same moves. Mini Charly can do what Divina does, Divina can do what Octagoncito does and Octagoncito can do what Mini Charly does. It’s like watching the exact same exchanges three times in a row with guys in different costumes. In CMLL every mini seems to have their own moves and own identity. Dorada is the unreal spectacular guy, Tzuki is the tiny guy who gets picked on, Dragoncito is the reckless diver, Pequeno Olimpico is the technician, Mini Fantasy is the taller flyer who can match up with the bigger rudos, etc.

    2. There is no bully on the rudo side. They seem like the ones getting picked on since they are smaller. They also come off way too much as tecnicos by being able to do moves the tecnicos can and sometimes making them look prettier.

    3. They’re not spectacular enough. Ever since Pena created the concept of smaller guys doing actual wrestling rather than comedy the entire idea was since they are smaller and more athletic they can do more spectacular spots than their bigger counterparts. The current crop of AAA mini’s just can’t cut it. On a typical AAA show when you rank the matches from most to least spectacular, the mini’s tend to fall in the middle somewhere. That’s just unacceptable. The crowd has no reason to cheer for smaller guys working the same basic match as their bigger counterparts. There is NO WAY the original Mascarita, original Octcito, Jerrito, Espectrito and Piratita would have gotten over if they hadn’t been stealing the show with their high-flying.

    It’s pretty obvious the mini’s division is one of the least important things to the people in charge of AAA right now but I feel that’s a huge mistake since the best shows are often the ones where the mini’s come out first and tear the place down which gets the crowd going and can make them red hot for the second and third matches which these days in AAA need all the help they can get. (Yes, I’m looking at you Metro-so-not-over-sexuals)

    IMO the first step that needs to be taken is to find a smaller tecnico to build the division around. Mascarita 2007 isn’t good enough and comes off as a super-weak Mascarita Dorada clone. Atomic Boy is taller than every rudo on the roster, even Mini Abismo! It’s time to find an unknown, give him a gimmick the crowd can get into (Gatito Eveready?) and fix this division.

  16. I was thinking it’d be pretty neat if with Mascara Dorada around, perhaps CMLL could start doing the odd mixed lightning match with Mascara/Mascarita Dorada teaming. Then I realized… they have no rudos to face.

    Pequeno Halloween… nope.
    Pequeno Damian… not any more.
    Mr. Aguilita… likewise.
    Pierrothito… not in his condition.
    Pequeno Violencia… fat chance of finding him.
    Pequeno Warrior… fat chance of him showing up.
    Fire… would need to create a Big Fire.
    Pequeno Universo 2000… well it’d at least be funny.

    So there goes that idea.

  17. I think we can pretty much officially start making the Wiki changes and redirect Metalik to Mascara Dorada. The resident Guadalajara reporter on the ByL board is already dropping hints and she said it isn’t Abismo (duh) or Astro Boy. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to put two and two together if she never ruled out Metalik and if she knows it has to be someone from Guadalajara. So unless they’re giving a huge push to Metal Blanco right away…

  18. @Rob: It sounds as if she ruled Metalik out. She says Mascara Dorada is a guy who was choose over a certain dude who thought he was a big ArMex shot… that sounds as Metalik as he’s the only Gudadlajarian sent to ArMex recently…

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