Black Warrior and Toscano gone from CMLL?

RFC of lomejordelucha has heard Black Warrior and Toscano (formerly Tarzan Boy) have left CMLL.

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Toscano’s been suspended from CMLL since his no-shows right before the end of the year double hair match. I believe the WON has been saying Toscano’s gone for six months, which seemed to me to be a stiff penalty. No-shows aren’t unusual in CMLL, but perhaps it was the proximity to a major show, or other things also going on. I have very limited knowledge of CMLL contracts, but I presume they’re just per date pay, and you’re get $0 from the company when you’re not being booked. If that’s accurate, Toscano really has no choice but to leave CMLL to get his own bookings; you can’t sit at home unpaid for six months. Toscano was already booked on the FMLL shows in LA and Chicago this weekend, and I’d guess he’d do more of these independent events and eventually head back to CMLL once this all blows over.

Black Warrior went AWOL for part of 2007, taking an unannounced vacation for a few months in the summer. There was never a big explanation when he came back; Warrior just apologized, thanked CMLL for giving him another shot, and pretty much immediately got his spot back (and got a mini.) I think (so I’m guessing from here on out) that actually might have been the problem; Warrior was stuck in one of those near top spots where you’re always around the main event, but always just rehashing the same feuds and never getting a new (money drawing) feud. For a guy whose put in a lot of effort to look important after the Mistico feud, it’s gotta be disappointing for the company not to match that effort. Maybe it’s just similar to Dr. Wagner, from the rudo side.

Assuming this isn’t a Park/Wagner thing, where people leave CMLL seemingly just to get a better spot back in CMLL a few months down the line, and Warrior is interested in going to AAA, AAA should rush to pick him up. I can’t immediately fantasy book where to put Warrior, but this is the perfect time for them to add a fresh top star and Warrior would fit. Warrior’s established his look enough that he probably would be fine getting by as Jesus Toral if CMLL owns the “Black Warrior” name (and I’m guessing they do.) I’d be less excited for Toscano going to AAA – though obviously the name issues aren’t there – but that’s mostly because I’m sure he’ll end back up in CMLL for some reason.

CMLL’s a little shorter on the rudo side now. The Guerreros del Atlantida are the smallest they’ve been in years, with only Atlantis, Ultimo, Olimpico and (maybe) Sangre around to carry the name. If only there was a former member hanging around with nothing to do. (No, not Mascara Magica.)

8 thoughts to “Black Warrior and Toscano gone from CMLL?”

  1. “CMLL’s a little shorter on the rudo side now. The Guerreros del Atlantida are the smallest they’ve been in years, with only Atlantis, Ultimo, Olimpico and (maybe) Sangre around to carry the name. If only there was a former member hanging around with nothing to do. (No, not Mascara Magica.)”

    Are we implying in so many words that Rey Buccanero needs to turn heel again?

  2. Lizmark Jr is supposed to be with Guerreros, but his rudo run has not worked as CMLL’s fan had expected, they were calling him “The next Mesias”.

    Perros del Mal are now being booked as genuine rudos, but they’re bad playing that role since they can not make tecnicos look good, still, now they lose constantly and when winning, is through cheating.

  3. I agree on the Bucanero stuff. I was hoping Atlantis would’ve turned when his DVD was released, and Bucanero would’ve reunited with UG as a team.

    Tuscano vs. Lover would’ve drawn money in AAA if that’s where Toscano ends up. Of course, Lover is not with AAA, and I don’t think he’s coming back anytime soon. Still, Tuscano would do alright in AAA.

    Black Warrior would also be a nice addition to AAA.

  4. Toscano is one of my favorites so sad to see him go but he’ll be back. CMLL is his home.

    Black Warrior is one of the laziest in-ring workers I’ve seen in years. He’s not even La Mascara level since La Mascara sucks but he tries hard… it’s just he is only capable of sucking.:) Warrior is capable of so much and does nothing at all. He’s been an embarassment ever since the start of 2007 and I have no use in seeing him ever again if he keeps that kind of workrate. That said… he’s somewhat of a draw. So I’m sure AAA will pounce on him.

  5. Wow, you guys have inside info or something? Ovaciones says the new Arena Mexico main event is Mistico and Dr. Wagner Jr. against…

    ULTIMO GUERRERO AND REY BUCANERO!

  6. Rob wrote:
    “La Mascara sucks but he tries hard… it’s just he is only capable of sucking.”

    That was wrong on every level, but funny as hell, LOL!

  7. For the record, I do think he (Buccanero) needs to revert back to the Rudos and rejoin the Guerreros. Lizmark Jr should have stayed babyface, no if’s ands or buts or bout a doubt it. As much as I did enjoy Rey as a technico and Lizmark as a heel, it’s not working from this fans standpoint.

    And when did the Perro’s turn into mexicos answer to the new World order? LOL!

    By the way, ever since billy Boy got back with Fabi and Decnis joined the Guapos, what happened to Alan?

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